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Just been told I’m the result of rape. **MNHQ adding, sadly, a content warning for CSA**

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Woobeedoo · 31/08/2021 22:26

Back story.

My relationship with my mum has never been the best. She’s never been a person I’ve been particularly close to, never someone I’ve confided in - infact being able to talk to her during my teenage years about most things involved me having to count to 10 several times to gain the confidence to eventually blurt the words out. At the age of 4 my father would take me to an older couples house and leave me there for an hour or so whereupon the male would sexually abuse me. I must’ve got it in my young head that it was probably ok because my Dad had taken there but I knew I didn’t like it and naturally when told the line of “Don’t tell your Mum, she’ll say you’re lying” I believed it so never told her.

My father was a drunk and would frequently drink drive. The last time he did this was four months after my fifth birthday. He was 5 times over the legal blood alcohol limit (this was in 1979 so the limit then was quite generous) when he smashed driver to driver into another vehicle. He was declared DOA at the hospital.

Present day.

The childhood abuse has left me pretty messed up. It will often creep in and affect my relationship with my partner. He knows of the abuse - I only told my Mum when I was 21.

My mum visited today. We’ve sold our house and found our next home so we’re really happy. My mum asked if we could have a talk so my child and OH went out to the park.

My Mum then decided to tell me the full story of how her and my father met. How on the 6th date, her throttled her until she collapsed unconscious on her doorstep. How he would belittle her and take her wages from her. She then told me how he forced her to have sex when she’d said that she didn’t want to. This happened on more than one occasion and then she discovered she was pregnant.

My dad was livid. There was an old wives tale that to cause miscarriage, drink a glass of vinegar. He forced my mum to drink a pint of the stuff.

They got married. God alone knows why. It was a disastrous union. He’d never actually hit her but would throw kicks and punches which would stop just shy of her face or stomach. He would torment the hell out of 2yr old me. He threatened my mum with a knife and dragged her up the stairs by her hair. Not once did she scream and she only reported him to the police once (the knife incident whereupon he played the super nice lovable drunk “I’m so sorry officer, it won’t happen again”).

He had affairs that people knew about but naturally she didn’t. Then one night he went out to the pub with his cousin and on the drive back smashed into another vehicle. All my life I believed that he only killed himself but today I learnt that he killed a young guy who worked for the GPO who was driving to work.

It then transpired that he’d bought the car and put it in my mums name. He’d had the weak engine taken out and replaced with the engine of a much faster vehicle. And the brakes were shot. My mum was then summoned to the Old Bailey as being the (unwitting) vehicles owner, she was being held responsible for two deaths and one serious injury. Luckily she had a very good solicitor who mange’s to get everything settled out of court but there are family members who believe that my mum drove my dad to drink to excess and gave him a death trap vehicle.

Now.

After telling me all this - I responded emotionally neutrally throughout, I mean how the fuck do you react to stuff like that? Obviously I offered my mum the emotional support she needed and she’s told me that she feels better after unburdening herself but now, six hours later I’m sitting here thinking what the bloody hell did you tell me that for?

I’m now left with the utter shock of knowing how I was conceived. Knowing that one person didn’t want me so much he tried to abort me. What upset me the most was learning that my dads car accident resulted in the death of someone totally innocent and that hurts me so much.

I’m now left having to process everything. I feel that whenever I see my mum something happens to make me step back in to myself, like I’m not the full me for several days after I’ve seen her.

Going full no contact would kill her as in her way I think she feels that I somehow appreciate knowing my history. I don’t know if I should write to her detailing how I feel, get therapy or what. How the fuck do I process this?

Sorry for probably the longest AIBU ever but want to give the back story and the full story rather than ‘so today this happened’ - I guess it makes more sense to know everything.

Thank you for sticking with me this far. I really appreciate it. Right now I’ll be going to bed and trying to sleep so will check back in tomorrow.

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AramintaLee · 31/08/2021 22:31

I don't know what to say as this is so beyond anything I have experienced and therefore I feel my words can't possibly offer any guidance.

I just want to say I'm so sorry and that I stuck with you right through to the end Flowers

Hopefully someone will be along who can offer you some wise words and guidance on how you can move forward x

Squidlydoo · 31/08/2021 22:33

Wow. What a lot to take in - and deeply traumatic. Please give yourself the time to process this information (if that’s even possible).
Please also recognise that you are your own person and played no part in your fathers actions and are not in any way to blame in what happened to you as a child or the young man. I hope you are able to work through this with your family. Please seek support/counselling to help if needed.

SaltedCaramelIcedLatte · 31/08/2021 22:34

I am so sorry you have gone through all this trauma! I think counselling would be the best place 2 start...Good Luck x

LJAKS · 31/08/2021 22:34

Oh god that poor woman. Maybe she's told you to help you to understand why her relationship with you growing up was so difficult? I'm sorry you're both going through that. I don't think it's been with malicious intent though unless I'm missing something? Therapy is never a bad idea Thanks

JustLyra · 31/08/2021 22:34

I think you should consider finding yourself a really good counsellor to unpick everything. Your childhood, your parents and this new news.

Counselling is fucking tough, but it can really be worth it.

Be kind to yourself while you process all of that as it’s a lot.

Squidlydoo · 31/08/2021 22:36

Edith Eger writes some excellent books on trauma and not letting trauma define you. This is not maybe something to do immediately, but in time you may find these helpful. She is a Holocaust survivor cum psychologist

tunnocksreturns2019 · 31/08/2021 22:38

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annacondom · 31/08/2021 22:41

Oh gosh. What a horrific story. I would put a bit of distance between you and her if she makes you feel like shit. She did her best for you and she was a victim too, of course, but I think you should prioritise your own happiness. You deserve to be happy. And yes, get some counselling.

Concernedaboutgranny · 31/08/2021 22:42

Wow. Why the fuck did she have to go and tell you all that for. She feels better, well sounds like she couldn't care less what you feel!! I think therapy would be a great idea and some distance from your mum while you begin to process what she's just dumped on you.

MargaretThursday · 31/08/2021 22:43

Sending (((hugs)))

I think you need therapy. Someone to talk to who is removed from the situation, and is able to access help. It's natural you will feel angry, upset etc both against your mum and for your mum.

I don't know why she told you. Maybe to unburden herself, but maybe also in fear that someone else might mention it.
I know someone for whom the latter happened-she was in her 20s and it was totally out of the blue shock because as far as she knew her parents had a totally loving relationship. The fact that it took someone else to tell her, for her, made it worse, she felt everyone knew but her.

It does sound though, with the asking to go out for a walk, that it was something that she has been trying to tell you, perhaps for some time. There's never going to be a good time to tell that sort of thing.

Should she have told you? I can't answer that. It may have been for her peace of mind, or she may have thought you had a right to know, or it may be, as I said above, that she thought (or possibly was threatened) that someone else would tell you first.

Give yourself time. Don't rush into anything. But do find someone to talk to in real life.

(((hugs))) again.

cricketmum84 · 31/08/2021 22:44

Oh god that sounds so traumatic for both you and your mum.

I would definitely look into some counselling to help you process all of this information.

It might even help if you and mum could go to a session together to help to resolve the feelings between you.

I'm sorry I don't have any advice beyond that but sending gentle hugs and flowers to you. You sound like a very strong woman and you will both get through this x

Upsidedownworld21 · 31/08/2021 22:44

A thousand hugs for you. You are beautiful and brave ❤
Counselling will help to heal.

Yesitsbess · 31/08/2021 22:44

You need a proper therapist or counselling to walk you through this. We can't do that but I'm sure someone will be along to help you access that care that you need and deserve.

Outside of that statement, I'd scoop you up and hug you and try to help you feel safe in an instant of I could. Sometimes you just want a 'Grown up' to keep you safe and I know from experience that doesn't always happen.

BlackeyedSusan · 31/08/2021 22:44

Your value does not rest in the method of conception, but that you are a human.

It will probably take a while to process this information, be gentle with yourself in the meantime and see if you can get help if you can.

BeenAsFarAsMercyAndGrand · 31/08/2021 22:47

You poor thing, this must be an incredibly traumatic thing to find out. Your mother has been damaged by your father just as much as he affected you - the whole thing is horrific.

I second the recommendation to get some counselling... please don't feel that you have to rush to decide how to process and feel about this. Take your time, and prioritise yourself. Flowers

TheLovelinessOfDemons · 31/08/2021 22:47

I have no idea what to say except I'm thinking of you. Flowers

gottastopeatingchocolate · 31/08/2021 22:48

I am so sorry that you have been through all that.

I also think that counselling would really help you. It would also help you to come to an understanding of how you want to relate to your mum moving forward, so don't feel you have to decide immediately.

katienana · 31/08/2021 22:48

You've had a terribly hard start in life which you did not deserve. I absolutely think therapy for you, and your mum, would be beneficial.
It's an awful thing you've found out but it's probably for the best that you know, because it might help you heal your relationship with your mum if you understand her past.
I'm so sorry that this happened to you .

AmelieLovesAutumn · 31/08/2021 22:51

Big Hug x.

What a nasty shock for you!

Have you told your OH?

Given you know what an utter bastard your father was, do you think you can see your Mum is a different light now? & maybe 'start over' with her? Do you know why she decided to tell you today? Are you moving far away? To an area where you are likely to have found out more about your past? Do you think she was trying to 'explain' why your relationship was so difficult?

I think it's probably best to try to find a good therapist to help you through all of this

I want to pick up four year old you and keep you safe.

Lots of love & strength!

HollowTalk · 31/08/2021 22:51

That's absolutely horrific. Does your mother know who those people were that your father left you with? I'm afraid I was really relieved to hear that he had died but very very sorry about the others.

God knows what would've happened to you though if he'd lived.

Embracelife · 31/08/2021 22:51

So sorry.
Counselling for you.
Decide with counsellor later on if you want facilitated sessions with your mum

NotJuryDutyAgain · 31/08/2021 22:53
Flowers

I'm sorry you've been though so much. You deserved a better start in life.

I agree with you that your mother shouldn't have dumped all this on you. It's too much. It has cast a pall over a time when you were enjoying the excitement of a new home. It may have helped her to unburden herself, but she shouldn't have done that without at least sounding you out first, to try to see if it was something you "needed" to know. (I don't know if anyone ever really "needs" to know all that about their parents and their conception, tbh!)

In your place, I'd at least consider speaking to a therapist. I believe I would write to tell your mother as kindly as possible that you're sorry she's suffered, but you're having a hard time processing all this, and you don't want to hear any more about it unless you specifically ask. If she needs help, she can find a therapist, too, but it's not good for your own mental health to listen to more of this right now.

As far as your long-term relationship with your mother goes, whether you should continue to see her, how often, under what conditions... That's one of the things I'd discuss with a therapist or maybe a support group. You deserve care and peace, too, and if you feel worse every time you see your mother, something needs to change. Flowers

custardbear · 31/08/2021 22:53

That is a lot of craziness and abuse as a child, you're never able to change that.
However, you can change your destiny! I've got a comcrete pathway in my back garden. There's a beautiful pansy (I think) growing through the cracks, you're that Pansy. No one gave you a decent growing space or decent conditions, yet you're here and beautiful - strong and blooming. Move forwards only, not backwards, it does one thing, it gives you pain, forwards is life - chose forwards only - good luck 🥰

Itsbeen84yearss · 31/08/2021 22:54

Your dad was a monster. Your mum sounds damaged and weak. I’m sorry she wasn’t or couldn’t have been stronger for you. I think she’s totally wrong to have unburdened herself to you especially when you’ve just found some happiness. I wonder if there isn’t some jealousy there given her terrible life and choices.
I wouldn’t give a second thought to him not wanting you. His opinions and desires are twisted and sick anyway. You are no less worthy a human for being born of rape. You also can not carry the burden of guilt for his crimes. Nothing to do with you.
I’m a result of quite a violent relationship and I’ve had counselling in the past but I actually found giving my father more airtime and space in my head quite damaging and I prefer to focus on my current situation and the happiness my own family give me.
Everyone is different but I would make it my mission in life not to allow your father or your mother to give you even one more moment of misery or sadness.

Catchthepigeons · 31/08/2021 22:56

I feel physically sick reading what you've endured. I think you should seek out counselling as everyone else has said and just remind yourself that how you were made has no bearing on your value as a person.