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Just been told I’m the result of rape. **MNHQ adding, sadly, a content warning for CSA**

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Woobeedoo · 31/08/2021 22:26

Back story.

My relationship with my mum has never been the best. She’s never been a person I’ve been particularly close to, never someone I’ve confided in - infact being able to talk to her during my teenage years about most things involved me having to count to 10 several times to gain the confidence to eventually blurt the words out. At the age of 4 my father would take me to an older couples house and leave me there for an hour or so whereupon the male would sexually abuse me. I must’ve got it in my young head that it was probably ok because my Dad had taken there but I knew I didn’t like it and naturally when told the line of “Don’t tell your Mum, she’ll say you’re lying” I believed it so never told her.

My father was a drunk and would frequently drink drive. The last time he did this was four months after my fifth birthday. He was 5 times over the legal blood alcohol limit (this was in 1979 so the limit then was quite generous) when he smashed driver to driver into another vehicle. He was declared DOA at the hospital.

Present day.

The childhood abuse has left me pretty messed up. It will often creep in and affect my relationship with my partner. He knows of the abuse - I only told my Mum when I was 21.

My mum visited today. We’ve sold our house and found our next home so we’re really happy. My mum asked if we could have a talk so my child and OH went out to the park.

My Mum then decided to tell me the full story of how her and my father met. How on the 6th date, her throttled her until she collapsed unconscious on her doorstep. How he would belittle her and take her wages from her. She then told me how he forced her to have sex when she’d said that she didn’t want to. This happened on more than one occasion and then she discovered she was pregnant.

My dad was livid. There was an old wives tale that to cause miscarriage, drink a glass of vinegar. He forced my mum to drink a pint of the stuff.

They got married. God alone knows why. It was a disastrous union. He’d never actually hit her but would throw kicks and punches which would stop just shy of her face or stomach. He would torment the hell out of 2yr old me. He threatened my mum with a knife and dragged her up the stairs by her hair. Not once did she scream and she only reported him to the police once (the knife incident whereupon he played the super nice lovable drunk “I’m so sorry officer, it won’t happen again”).

He had affairs that people knew about but naturally she didn’t. Then one night he went out to the pub with his cousin and on the drive back smashed into another vehicle. All my life I believed that he only killed himself but today I learnt that he killed a young guy who worked for the GPO who was driving to work.

It then transpired that he’d bought the car and put it in my mums name. He’d had the weak engine taken out and replaced with the engine of a much faster vehicle. And the brakes were shot. My mum was then summoned to the Old Bailey as being the (unwitting) vehicles owner, she was being held responsible for two deaths and one serious injury. Luckily she had a very good solicitor who mange’s to get everything settled out of court but there are family members who believe that my mum drove my dad to drink to excess and gave him a death trap vehicle.

Now.

After telling me all this - I responded emotionally neutrally throughout, I mean how the fuck do you react to stuff like that? Obviously I offered my mum the emotional support she needed and she’s told me that she feels better after unburdening herself but now, six hours later I’m sitting here thinking what the bloody hell did you tell me that for?

I’m now left with the utter shock of knowing how I was conceived. Knowing that one person didn’t want me so much he tried to abort me. What upset me the most was learning that my dads car accident resulted in the death of someone totally innocent and that hurts me so much.

I’m now left having to process everything. I feel that whenever I see my mum something happens to make me step back in to myself, like I’m not the full me for several days after I’ve seen her.

Going full no contact would kill her as in her way I think she feels that I somehow appreciate knowing my history. I don’t know if I should write to her detailing how I feel, get therapy or what. How the fuck do I process this?

Sorry for probably the longest AIBU ever but want to give the back story and the full story rather than ‘so today this happened’ - I guess it makes more sense to know everything.

Thank you for sticking with me this far. I really appreciate it. Right now I’ll be going to bed and trying to sleep so will check back in tomorrow.

OP posts:
GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 31/08/2021 22:58

It’s so hard to know what to say.

You are incredibly brave, and have done so well to build an adult happy life.

Know that this horrible start in life that you had was nothing to do with your worth as a person.

I agree with others that therapy is always helpful, even when it’s incredibly hard.

Flowers
SRS29 · 31/08/2021 23:05

OP just sending massive hugs and emotional support. Maybe mum just needed to offload in probably not the best ways, but when is? Really really hard but sounds you like you are happy with OH and child.....let mum also process what she has shared and then maybe talk again in a couple of days? I could write a book on my childhood.......I think maybe your mum had been brave to share, and sorry you now have to process all this new information x

Darthwader · 31/08/2021 23:11

I've no idea how you should deal with this but if it were me I would tell them both to get to fuck and move on with a life that didn't involve either of them.

Plumtree391 · 31/08/2021 23:14

You poor soul, you have been through so much, as has your mother. I am not sure that you really needed to know how you were conceived. I understand that your mum needed to offload but to you? It hasn't done you any good.

What is great is that you now have a stable life. Counselling would help you immensely, do seriously consider it.

Flowers
Thelnebriati · 31/08/2021 23:16
Flowers

I don't think she should have told you. I hope you can find a good therapist to process all of this.

You are thinking about going no contact with her. Its ok to go low or NC with her. You are not responsible for how she reacts to that.
I wonder if you worrying about her reaction and changing your behaviour because of her possible reaction is part of a wider pattern?

willstarttomorrow · 31/08/2021 23:17

OP this is hugely distressing for you but let's start from your safe space. You have grown into an adult with a DP and child and a DP who by the sounds of it is very sensitive to your needs in taking your DC out. As a survivor of abuse and someone who works with victims, this is not something everyone can achieve. So remind yourself that you are a very strong person to be able to have these relationships most peole take for granted and other people value and love you.
Why your mother told you now is only a question she can answer, it is probably not one you will be ready to ask any time soon. She may have felt a need to try to explain her own failings as a mother- why now and in this way is unclear but I imagine it is not an easy conversation for her. Take your time and only talk to her when ready, maybe message to say it is a lot to take in and you are not sure yet when you will be ready to talk/see her. Baby steps.
You do need someone to talk it through with though. I understand that your partner is not your therapist but it is important that you communicate with him so he understands what is happening for you. It will also impact on both your lives and he needs to know if you are struggling and understand enough to deal with it.
I do get a bit frustrated about people just recommending counselling, because for some people it makes things worse rather than better and it does depend on finding the right person. However, in regards to this new information it could work for you because it will not require you to re-live direct trauma. You certainly need time and a safe space to work through it.
All the best OP- you can get through this because humans do have huge resilience. Back to the beginning of this post, you are loved and you have created your own little family. Whatever you have learnt today does not change this.

DrSbaitso · 31/08/2021 23:21

OP, you're a human being with human worth and you were born in innocence. And you remain innocent of any blame or wrongdoing to this day. None of this is your fault or your doing.

Yaya26 · 31/08/2021 23:24

I am so sorry for the horrific start you had in life. I'm glad you now have found happiness and security - you're an amazing person. Xxx

I think your mum probably has told you all of this as she feels guilty about the fraught relationship you have and she is trying to explain herself. It's an awful lot for you to cope with though.

SheilaWilcox · 31/08/2021 23:24

Wow - what an enormous thing to have to process. Don't try and do it on your own. As others have suggested, a good therapist is needed.

You may find there are things about your past that will make a lot more sense now you have this knowledge. You were so badly let down by everyone around you.

Despite all of that, you survived! What an amazing and strong woman you must be. I bet that makes you a great mum too as you're determined to protect your loved ones.

SirVixofVixHall · 31/08/2021 23:24

Firstly I am so sorry for the terrible things done to you as a child.
This is all another layer of shock and grief, and will take time and help to process.
I also feel very sad for how your mother was treated. I wonder if she feels that by telling you all this, you will have some context in which to put your lack of closeness, or her behaviour while you grew up. To me it seems as though she wants to be closer to you.

I think you both need to have some support through this and to talk to someone who specialises in abuse and sexual assault.
You may be the result of your father’s abuse of your mother but you are not him. You are your own person. You have made a loving home and family for your own child. I hope that you can get some outside support to talk this through.
Flowers

inigomontoyahwillcox · 31/08/2021 23:24

OP - that's a hell of a lot to take in, and you should really get some counselling to help you process this information. It is is just a plethora of issues, each one being more than enough to scar you psychologically.

But I am absolutely gobsmacked about the lack of sympathy or empathy for the OPs mother here. Utterly disgusted by some of the comments. This is a woman - a young woman more than likely - who was subjected to many of the forms of abuse we now recognise (with our 21st century understanding of the many forms of domestic abuse) but in a time when women had nowhere to turn. Just imagine if she'd had Mumsnet as a resource to rely on - would you have responded in the same way?

I am making assumptions here - but it doesn't sound like the mother has sought help to process her own trauma, as I'm sure many women from that era haven't. So maybe she hadn't dealt with things in the best way (understatement), but to demonise her, as some poster have, is horrid.

Bettyboopawoop · 31/08/2021 23:25

Op I really feel for you I also feel for your mum, she may have told you because she wants to try and figure x things between you and perhaps thinking that you knowing she was a victim too would help you both repair? Because now you will be able to see why she has been the she she has if that makes sense, your father was the one that was wrong in all this, you both need help to heal.

LivingLaVidaBabyShower · 31/08/2021 23:25

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Your mother should not have told you this.
It is not needed and a terrible thing to do tp your child.

Ignoring your fathers actions, she sounds like she was a pretty terrible mother to you in childhood and in adulthood.
I would also question whether your mother a reliable narrator in all this.

I saw what you said about contact but i would be seeking therapy and gearing up to 100% NC. She is a terrible mother.

HollowTalk · 31/08/2021 23:27

@Darthwader

I've no idea how you should deal with this but if it were me I would tell them both to get to fuck and move on with a life that didn't involve either of them.
You realise her father died a long time ago, don't you?
CornishTiger · 31/08/2021 23:28

mum visited today. We’ve sold our house and found our next home so we’re really happy.

^^ yet today she decided to disclose a lifetime of secrets on you. Could she have not just let you have a happy time?

I think the timing is interesting here. She sounds narcissistic.

I’m sorry you have had this disclosed and happen to you. Good therapy and low or no contact with your mother

WwYd2k · 31/08/2021 23:31

Fucking hell, that was gut wrenching to read. I am so so sorry Flowers

I don't think she should have told you personally, although I imagine living with all of that must have been an incredible burden for her - that burden isn't yours.

I come from a very dysfunctional background albeit different to yours, I can totally relate to what you said about not feeling right for a few days after spending time with your mum. I made the decision to go NC with mine a few months ago then caved and phoned her last week which I regret because nothing has changed as far as the negative impact on my MH goes.

I would advise you give her a wide berth for now so you can process everything you've had dumped on you. It's not your job to council or console her and the likelihood is you're now going to need professional counselling yourself. I mean, who wouldn't after hearing all of that?

I hope you manage to get some rest tonight, I know how anxiety provoking it is when you open up about something so painful and don't know how people will respond.

Keep talking here for as long as you need OP Flowers

phishy · 31/08/2021 23:36

YANBU, I would absolutely tell her that she’s causes you distress by telling you all this and that she should have got therapy instead.

I’m so sorry, OP. I hope you can get the joy back in your new home, and I think go LC with your mother at least.

I find that answering my mum back when she is unreasonable is important for me to continue to spend time with her, even though it doesn’t conform to her idea of a ‘good daughter.’

HummingBeeBox · 31/08/2021 23:37

Goodness, bless you. I think therapy sounds like a good idea as you have an incredible amount to deal with and process. I'm so sorry that was the start you had.

ANameChangeAgain · 31/08/2021 23:40

I'm so sorry.
You are a survivor and you are not at fault for your parents actions. You are the person you are in spite of them, not because of them. The way you were conceived does not define who you are.
Your father sounds more than horrendous and your mother was an enabler who turned a blind eye. She does not deserve your sympathy. The minute she chose to stay with the man who was a danger to her unborn child was the minute the sympathy for her ended.
Please get therapy to help you to deal with what happened. Personally I would go no contact with your mother, she is a user, but when you get your therapist they will advise the best way to proceed.

Bawse · 31/08/2021 23:49

I'm so so sorry that all that happened to you.

You are completely innocent in all this and the relationship between your mum and dad does not reflect on you in any way. Pregnancies start under all sorts of circumstances – people are drunk, don't know each other, making up after an argument, awkward, uncomfortable, forgettable, whatever – it does not detract from or reflect on the value of the life that is created and the whole, innocent person that is born as a result. That's not to diminish the seriousness of rape. However the circumstances of conception don't write our story and do not dictate who we are.

I'm not surprised you feel overwhelmed by all this – it's so much to process. As other posters have said above, counselling could be really useful in helping you navigate all this.

I'm sorry your mum dropped this on you while you were enjoying the excitement of your new house purchase. I think she could have chosen a better time. The fact you often feel worse after you've seen her could be something else worth discussing with a counsellor, who might be able to help you understand more of what's going on there. Of course you want your mum to be ok, and it sounds like she's not had a very nice time of it herself, however do remember that your wellbeing comes first, and you are not responsible for looking after your mum to the detriment of yourself.

Sending massive hugs Flowers

LivingLaVidaBabyShower · 31/08/2021 23:49

I also agree with @CornishTiger the timing is interesting/unusual.

Out of interest I also wonder whether you are moving closer to or further away from your mother?

me4real · 31/08/2021 23:49

Get therapy of course if you (understandably) feel the need.

One thought I had @Woobeedoo was that your mum feels responsible for the abuse you suffered or feels you hold her in some way responsible for all the stuff that happened to you (and maybe she somewhat was, though how people act in an abusive relationship can seem odd to those who aren't in one.)

By telling you all this stuff part of what she's trying to say maybe was that she wasn't responsible for what happened to you, she was a victim too. She might even be trying to play 'victim trumps' so that you can't hold her accountable for anything (I know that in an abusive relationship women aren't really in control of what goes on.)

She's putting it all on your dad even more than it was before (and pretty reasonably probably.)

I mean, I could be completely wrong and it could be just that this stuff came out of her mouth as it was on her mind.

I think maybe you can only judge this person's character based on how she's been long since her abusive relationship.

So you can have sympathy, but on the other hand you have to protect yourself. Flowers

Tulips15 · 31/08/2021 23:52

Op,
Ive no words.
Awful in every way.
I hope you are able to speak to a proffessional to work through this all.

Good luck with your house move.

pucelleauxblanchesmains · 31/08/2021 23:52

"The minute she chose to stay with the man who was a danger to her unborn child was the minute the sympathy for her ended." And how easy was it, in the 70s, when marital rape was not considered an offence, to leave your abusive husband - or even recognise that he was abusive - and rebuild your life? Women have had full financial autonomy in the UK for such a comparatively short time period.

me4real · 31/08/2021 23:52

I had a miscarriage and that child would've been as a result of rape/coercive sex, but that doesn't mean that he wasn't very much loved and wanted.

My ex also didn't like the idea of a baby at first (men are often in shock) but he came round to and got really into the idea after a while.

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