Tourists exodus today relieved

[justasking111]

Well it's over today the tsunami of tourists will be gone.

We have never experienced such, rudeness, aggressive behaviour from them as we have this summer. Our businesses have limped along short staffed, been abused, threatened as have locals. The littering has been something else.

I know everyone has had a bad year but so have the Welsh our lockdowns harder and longer than others.

We still wear masks in shops fgs

So hopefully you all had good holidays but glad of a bit of peace now

[quote Marni83]@Tooembarrassingtomention

* It is £6.30 for a pint.*

That is a tourist area for you. Taking the piss. Shame your local seems to want to rinse locals alongside tourists[/quote]
they are pretty much all that price except 'spoons

[quote Marni83]@Tooembarrassingtomention

* It is £6.30 for a pint.*

That is a tourist area for you. Taking the piss. Shame your local seems to want to rinse locals alongside tourists[/quote]
I am in nw and you can pay that or close to that for craft beers (in some places not even something special actually). Bog standard beer is 4.50+. Tourists or no tourists.

I've never had locals' discounts. Damn, what am I doing wrong?

@HesterShaw1

I've never had locals' discounts. Damn, what am I doing wrong?

were you born there? was your mother?

@HesterShaw1

I've never had locals' discounts. Damn, what am I doing wrong?

Not bitched about tourists to the owner

Go around in summer with a face like a smacked arse, tutting at the visitors.

You’ll be looking at 50% off I reckon

@jacks11 Your post gave a real insight into the reality of country living. I've always fancied rural living, but think that it must be hellish at times, due to tourists. You make me feel a bit more content with urban living. My modest garden is nothing special, but at least I don't have tourists invading it and treating it like a theme park - the climbing on farm equipment and going in with livestock would give me the rage.

@peridito

^Most drivers are appreciative when you pull the pram into the hedgerow with you, but a few are so rude that you are in their way. Because of this my daughter now just continues to walk in the lane until she reaches her cottage and then they screech past^

this sounds quite dangerous and not a little like a provocative over reaction ..

Squeezing yourself and your pram into a hedgerow so that inconsiderate drivers can then squeeze past you is, I'd suggest, more dangerous.

@jacks11 that sounds familiar. I have friends who farm and they have had huge issues with litter, nappies, and human waste, and with people taking children up behind cattle to 'pat the nice cow'. I know a moorland gamekeeper who spent large parts of last summer on high alert for wildfires, with the fogging units and swipes ready, because of clueless people lighting portable barbecues on tinder-dry moorland - he was thoroughly pissed off.

We've had loads of signs go up locally asking people not to feed horses, and new 'private' signs from landowners who will tolerate a handful of locals using a track to walk their dogs, but not large groups kicking footballs into the crops, or picnicking and leaving litter.

Unfortunately a lot of people are very ignorant about the countryside, and have unrealistic expectations.

[quote GrumpyMiddleAgedWoman]@jacks11 that sounds familiar. I have friends who farm and they have had huge issues with litter, nappies, and human waste, and with people taking children up behind cattle to 'pat the nice cow'. I know a moorland gamekeeper who spent large parts of last summer on high alert for wildfires, with the fogging units and swipes ready, because of clueless people lighting portable barbecues on tinder-dry moorland - he was thoroughly pissed off.

We've had loads of signs go up locally asking people not to feed horses, and new 'private' signs from landowners who will tolerate a handful of locals using a track to walk their dogs, but not large groups kicking footballs into the crops, or picnicking and leaving litter.

Unfortunately a lot of people are very ignorant about the countryside, and have unrealistic expectations.[/quote]
So maybe If they holidayed in the UK more, they would learn?

We could look at it as a positive?

So maybe If they holidayed in the UK more, they would learn?

It's common sense. Most of it is simple common aense. If someone needs to learn these things, they shouldn't be out without a responsible adult.

People need to stop making excuse for cunts of tourists. It doesn't cost anything to not to behave like an adiot or an abusive idiot.

I always wonder how were the parents of these people. How someone failed to teach their kids basic normal behaviour of nkt screaming at people because you didn't google enough and similar.
Can you tell I worked in hospitality?...

A number of tourist attractions round us do locals discounts/free entry on particular days. It's usually out of season though so obviously designed to keep footfall up through quiet times. There is one big attraction that I know has local discount all year round. You have to show up with your council tax bill and you get a card which then gets you discount for a year. Locals prices aren't advertised but the local card is mentioned in (very!) small print on their literature. So it's not a secret but not widely publicised either.I've never bothered as it's not something that interests me enough to do visit regularly, but it's great for locals who like it, especially if they have several kids.
Other than that, I don't know of anywhere else that offers cheaper prices for locals. My DD and close friends have worked in the majority of our local pubs and cafes at some point in the last few years so if there was some secret local discount scheme I think I'd have heard about it by now.

@Annoyedanddissapointed

So maybe If they holidayed in the UK more, they would learn?

It's common sense. Most of it is simple common aense. If someone needs to learn these things, they shouldn't be out without a responsible adult.

People need to stop making excuse for cunts of tourists. It doesn't cost anything to not to behave like an adiot or an abusive idiot.

I always wonder how were the parents of these people. How someone failed to teach their kids basic normal behaviour of nkt screaming at people because you didn't google enough and similar.
Can you tell I worked in hospitality?...

I don't believe they're cunts, I don't believe they're that many that do it! I believe it's all an urban myth made up by tourist hating cunts!

Deliberate anti social behaviour aside, it seems to me that a lot of these problems, such as traffic, not getting into your local pub, and overcrowded beaches have actually been caused by your neighbours. They are the ones allowing every bed in the place to be filled and every field in the area camped in. You can't blame tourists who have paid to stay at a place that it's too full for them. How are they supposed to know greedy locals will have allowed a level of overcrowding that strains resourses beyond capacity? I'm sure the tourists wish it was less crowded too given how much they've been charged.

What a miserable thread!.

I mean it's obvious what the problem has been; a perfect storm of frazzled tourists, maybe seeing holidaying in this country as second best so they haven't come with the greatest attitude, and an overworked tourist industry , short on staff because of Covid and Brexit, but a lot busier due to the same reasons!

It really doesnt seem that many people have benefitted this year - both the tourists and businesses have complained of rudeness and arrogance.

Personally, as a tourist, I have felt very much taken advantage of this year..inflated prices and a frosty welcome. There's areas of the country I certainly won't be rushing back to. On the other hand, I've seen some incredibly selfish, entitled behaviour by fellow tourists as well.

@Sadiecow

I don't believe they're cunts, I don't believe they're that many that do it! I believe it's all an urban myth made up by tourist hating cunts!

You think it's all made up by locals who don't like tourists?! This is just one post from one local business this summer

@FuckingFabulous

We went to Cornwall. We regularly do. This time, I felt that we were met with quite shocking attitudes from staff in hospitality. A barman actually shouted at my daughter in her wheelchair that she was in his way as he wove through tables with a tray of drinks. She was sitting at the table and he was walking round groups of people standing and loitering in the pathway between tables. He didn't yell at any of them. Just at my daughter. My DH immediately left with the children as I went in and asked for a refund and complained about the man. Was given the refund with a snippy, "tempers do fray, we are working during this pandemic, not lounging on holiday"

It was reflected on their trip advisor rating.

Which is why everyone should completely ignore Tripadvisor reviews, one bad thing and people are straight on TA but less so when it is good! Everyone should be made to work a summer season in the tourist industry like other countries make people do a year in the army. The shit these people put up with is ridiculous and I think if they actually spoke to owners of hospitality instead of giving bad reviews they would have a different opinion.

@Overthehillandfartaway

What a miserable thread!.

I mean it's obvious what the problem has been; a perfect storm of frazzled tourists, maybe seeing holidaying in this country as second best so they haven't come with the greatest attitude, and an overworked tourist industry , short on staff because of Covid and Brexit, but a lot busier due to the same reasons!

It really doesnt seem that many people have benefitted this year - both the tourists and businesses have complained of rudeness and arrogance.

Personally, as a tourist, I have felt very much taken advantage of this year..inflated prices and a frosty welcome. There's areas of the country I certainly won't be rushing back to. On the other hand, I've seen some incredibly selfish, entitled behaviour by fellow tourists as well.

Absolutely. Neither "tourists" nor "locals" are homogenous groups and you get nice people and arseholes in both. A (hopefully!) unique set of circumstances has turned things into a complete nightmare in some areas but it isn't the fault of any single group. At the end of the first lockdown I think the disconnect between nationsl and local government had a lot to answer for. National government saying everyone could travel wherever they liked but the local council not opening carparks and public toilets caused chaos in our area and somehow we've never quite recovered from that. We normally get mainly serious outdoorsy people in our area as we are on the edge of the main tourist area and frankly, the facilities that more mainstream tourists want are not here. But lots have come this year, because other places are full. They're not happy as it's not really the holiday they want. The people who normally visit aren't happy as their usual haunts are packed out often with people who don't know what they are doing. Local kids are bored as they can't go away on their own holidays. Workload is up and staffing levels down for many in the hospitality industry. All groups are stressed and anxious about the pandemic's wider effects. Chuck in a bit of unusually warm weather and it really is a pressure cooker. Most people on all "sides" are nice, normal people trying to make the best of the situation but there are tossers in every group and they spoil things for many others. I don't think there is a simple solution.

@Sadiecow

I can assure you that, sadly, it is not made up!

I wouldn’t mind the genuine mistakes so much- although frankly a significant proportion of these problems are not occurring because of “not knowing”- I think a fair amount is feeling entitled to go where they want, do whatever the want and having absolutely no respect for the countryside. Some of it is genuine ignorance- but on the other hand some of it is mind bogglingly stupid, very lazy or utterly thoughtless. Wild camping, for instance, in some areas is causing serious damage to fragile environments. In others they are causing fires and the amount of litter is disgusting. It’s been recorded as an issue in various beauty spots- I’m taking hundreds of bags of litter! Do they really not know that leaving litter is unacceptable? I doubt it, it’s just laziness and utter lack of respect.

Does anyone genuinely expect a small village shop to be open late? And have a wide range of stock? And do you think giving the young woman who is manning the till a hard time will change anything?

I could just about get on board with the “they need help to understand”, but many don’t want to listen or seem to even consider why there might be a problem with what they have done/are doing. I have also found out that when it is pointed out to them that they are causing damage/ obstruction/ a nuisance/ breaking the law- or even more worryingly putting themselves and/or their children in danger- they react badly. It is not unusual to get a nasty, angry, or sometimes downright aggressive response. This summer (and last) I have experienced far more of these sorts of occurrences and I know many local people have experienced similar. It genuinely hasn’t been one or two over the whole summer.

In addition, I frankly just don’t understand why anyone would think it acceptable to climb all over machinery, block a farm road by parking right across it or leave your child’s nappies as litter and so on. Who needs to be told not to do these things? Is it not more likely that they just couldn’t care less?

"Do they really not know that leaving litter is unacceptable? I doubt it, it’s just laziness and utter lack of respect."

@jacks11 Precisely. Sadly, there seems to be a dearth of that attitude about. I think that good citizen classes should be a mandatory part of the school curriculum, and people caught littering should be made to do attend such classes, along with paying fines and/or doing litter picking as a community service.

Imagine having to have "this is rubbish and rubbish belongs to the bin" classes. 😂
Honestly, that is just basic parenting. This is actually really interesting because I keep seeing everywhere "schools should teach x and y" and many of these things are something a mediocre parent should be able to teach their children. They do manage it in many other places...
My family is always shocked when they visit, at the amount of rubbish around in uk.

Of course schools shouldn’t have to teach children that rubbish goes in the bin. That’s what parents are for. My 2 year old knows that rubbish goes in the bin.

The difficulty with the ops post is it ignores the fact that even though I am sure there have been more difficult tourists this year than usual, the fact remains that the vast majority of ' tourists' will have been perfectly reasonable and polite. It is human nature however to remember the bad stuff more vividly. This means that it seems worse this year but probably proportionately there were no more idiots than normal . The sheer weight of numbers would cause problems even if they were all.perfectly behaved.

I think tarring all tourists as idiots is incredibly offensive to the vast majority who did absolutely nothing wrong . Also many hospitality business owners will be tourists themselves at some.point

Yes @bumblingbovine49 totally ignore the people who have lived through it. Dismiss their experience because they must have been mistaken. wow

@Sadiecow
So maybe If they holidayed in the UK more, they would learn?
You have to holiday in the countryside to learn that leaving a laden nappy in a hedge, shitting in the middle of a field and bothering livestock are not good ideas?
People who do these things are either very, very stupid, or - and this is far more likely - selfish and thoughtless.