Tourists exodus today relieved

[justasking111]

Well it's over today the tsunami of tourists will be gone.

We have never experienced such, rudeness, aggressive behaviour from them as we have this summer. Our businesses have limped along short staffed, been abused, threatened as have locals. The littering has been something else.

I know everyone has had a bad year but so have the Welsh our lockdowns harder and longer than others.

We still wear masks in shops fgs

So hopefully you all had good holidays but glad of a bit of peace now

Most people living in holiday places do not benefit at all form tourism.

I have noticed that many businesses are now owned by "incomers" not locals

Wales lockdown did last longer. When drakeford finally gave a firm date for indoor hospitality opening. Friend contacted wholesalers with orders many items had risen by 30% so menus had to be recalculated price wise. Wages also rose because staffing was near impossible. So yes your meal was dearer. BUT so is your supermarket shopping. Looking back through my credit card used solely for housekeeping it's a big jump.

Two friends in USA one in Texas one in NYC are saying the same. Another in France agrees. Prices are rising for food

@Genderwitched

In reference to your comments:

but we felt unwelcome, even disliked. And But the kids don't want to go back. They felt unwelcome, overheard a few off remarks, and even heard a couple of people on a bus talking about burning second homes down like they do in Wales.

It's well known that the Welsh and the Cornish hate "outsiders" and only barely tolerate them as tourists because they're handing over their cash. I don't know why people insist on returning there. Not worth the hostility, the expense, the shite weather and the thinly-veiled hatred from the locals (sometimes not even disguised hatred as is evident in your post.) How distressing for children to hear that on their holiday.

And people pay serious money to go to these places to get insulted like this. Don't get it

@ThreeLittleDots

Hestershaw1

Whichever figures you look at, it is not objectively true to say that the majority of Cornwall jobs or the economy relies on tourism, directly or indirectly.

So the attitude of "you should be grateful to have us instead of relieved when we go home" doesn't really hold up, especially for the majority of employees and workers who do not benefit financially from holidaymakers.

But I said it's a significant proportion, not the majority.

I'm looking at a document right in front of me now which gives the exact facts and figures, broken down by county. The overall number for the south west area (Dorset, Devon, Plymouth, Cornwall and the IoS) is 9%. However in certain area which are more touristy, that rises to 60%.

And , I absolutely do not subscribe to the "you should be grateful to have us" attitude, because crucially these visitor spend figures (which are also included) don't include 2021. This indicates that the region was doing perfectly fine in terms of visitor numbers before this year. If people want to go back to Spain they are most welcome to do so - the South West will be alright, because they were before (as long as they continue to uphold proper standards, and offer a proper welcome. Those in the industry who find themselves unable to do that should maybe switch careers).

Yet on BBC news the Welsh were asking people to visit on staycations.

You can't have it both ways

It's well known that the Welsh and the Cornish hate "outsiders" and only barely tolerate them as tourists because they're handing over their cash

Oh what bollocks! Take your shit stirring elsewhere.

@HesterShaw1. I don't swallow the covid stats in Wales either there are high figures in areas that are most certainly not tourism areas. The Welsh government are bleating about returning to school spike. HELLO the figures have risen steeply since the schools broke up

Burning homes in Wales is not a myth although goes back a good few years now. It definitely used to happen. One burnt down near me.

@changingstages

These threads ALWAYS go like this. So all of you jumping in to say 'happy to take the tourist dollar, eh'? think this sounds like reasonable behaviour? It's ok to treat people like this because you're on holiday? Vile.

I find those rude on holiday are also rude at home. It's not people they are tourists it's because they are just vile people wherever they go

@HesterShaw1

But it's the truth. You know it is. Where else have you heard locals talk about burning people's homes down apart from Cornwall and Wales? Imagine hearing that on your holiday. It's awful. Sorry - you might not like the truth but there it is

@HesterShaw1

It's well known that the Welsh and the Cornish hate "outsiders" and only barely tolerate them as tourists because they're handing over their cash

Oh what bollocks! Take your shit stirring elsewhere.

Well since the election plaid are creaming their pants re home ownership, jobs, labour need them for a majority. They're under the impression they can push their mad welsh only agenda. The irony the seats they won are in sparsely populated areas.

As for the speak Welsh agenda, very few of them can write in the language it's verbal mostly

A developer is building 150 new homes housing association taking on 56. Locals moaning they should be given them because it's their home town

TBF I said "except for new builds", though I do hope you didn't mean that locals literally think they should be given them
Interesting, too, that you chose to ignore my main point about who sold the existing homes to holiday owners ... or doesn't that count if they were locals and hence presumably beyond criticism?

Some parts of the UK have done themselves a positive disservice with the golden opportunity that was this year's staycation bonus

Spot on with this, and that's before you get to the unbelieveable prices and many reports of bookings cancelled because they could gouge even more from someone else
Even without this though, staycations may well come be be associated with "that awful time", which will have its own effect on future bookings ... and when receipts collapse many will moan again

Dh and I have just come back from Cornwall having had a wonderful holiday. We stayed near Mousehole on a farm in a small self-catering complex. We were not overcharged but we did book in January before prices seemed to rocket. The pub in the local village was very busy but we were able to book if we were prepared to be flexible about time and although the pub normally served food between 6 and 8 opened up early to allow more customers in.

As oaps we have free bus passes and so most of the time we travelled by bus having had to drive a short distance to the bus route and indeed I can recommend the open top bus doing a circular tour from Penzance via Land’s End to St Ives (very busy).

We live near Bath and accept that there will always be a lot of tourists there but that is the price to pay for living in a beautiful part of the country.

@Ritasueandbobtoo9

Burning homes in Wales is not a myth although goes back a good few years now. It definitely used to happen. One burnt down near me.

Early seventies FWA spray painted all over the place. Remember Fred Ffrancis he wasn't even Welsh

Yanbu. Im not surprised you're fed up with some of the behaviour this year.
We've holidayed in Cornwall and Wales this year. Made sure we stick to all rules in each area as applied at the time - and were very polite and ensured we shppped for food locally to support the local economy as much as possible. I sensed a certain weariness from local people in Wales as it was towards the end of the summer.
We only ate out once and it was clear staff shortages in Cornwall were affecting service but its not the staffs fault so weren't rude.
Theres alot of people around who usually go abroad and I'm hoping things feel less crowded and chaotic when people can get back on a plane again and leave the UK for those of us who actually like holidaying here.
I don't blame you for looking forward to a return to more normal levels of existence.

It's threads like this that make me happy I didn't bother going on holiday this year. All the tourists were vile the customer service poor, and everything expensive, so it seems.

Staggering ignorance and 'im alright jack-isms' here. The verbal abuse and anti social behaviour I've witnessed from tourists (mostly wealthy ones) towards locals/local workers in tourist areas this year and last has escalated massively.

This whole ' well I'll take my money elsewhere' attitude towards people pointing this out is ignorant, appalling and basically proves the point. Workers in tourist areas aren't your punchbags

@LynetteScavo

It's threads like this that make me happy I didn't bother going on holiday this year. All the tourists were vile the customer service poor, and everything expensive, so it seems.

I can't see food prices going down again to be honest

@heliachi
Why do you think receiving adequate government funding to provide decent services is a bail out. Here in Devon we receive a fraction of what other authorities do. So it wouldn't be a bail out but would mean levelling out the playing field a bit.

@Puzzledandpissedoff

A developer is building 150 new homes housing association taking on 56. Locals moaning they should be given them because it's their home town

TBF I said "except for new builds", though I do hope you didn't mean that locals literally think they should be given them
Interesting, too, that you chose to ignore my main point about who sold the existing homes to holiday owners ... or doesn't that count if they were locals and hence presumably beyond criticism?

Some parts of the UK have done themselves a positive disservice with the golden opportunity that was this year's staycation bonus

Spot on with this, and that's before you get to the unbelieveable prices and many reports of bookings cancelled because they could gouge even more from someone else
Even without this though, staycations may well come be be associated with "that awful time", which will have its own effect on future bookings ... and when receipts collapse many will moan again

Nope locals have sold out across the board, one family got 1.2 million for a house on the beach, the buyer has planning to demolish and put up a bloody glass eyesore California style architecture. We're swamped by buyers grabbing anything rural as if they'll be protected from covid that way. It's madness

@Demelza82

Staggering ignorance and 'im alright jack-isms' here. The verbal abuse and anti social behaviour I've witnessed from tourists (mostly wealthy ones) towards locals/local workers in tourist areas this year and last has escalated massively.

This whole ' well I'll take my money elsewhere' attitude towards people pointing this out is ignorant, appalling and basically proves the point. Workers in tourist areas aren't your punchbags

AHH the wealthy with speedy boats who ignore speed limits in the estuary insist on £80 bottles of fizz, we've got those too 🙈

Locals have sold out across the board

I know, OP - so why do so many blame only the incomers and not the local who sold to them also?

Burning homes in Wales is not a myth

You're right it's not - though it's true it was a while ago

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/8408447.stm

I live in a tourist area and although it brings money to the area it makes life pretty hard for us who live here, I love the coast here but haven’t been able to go all summer because it’s just too busy, I have dc with autism so they can’t cope with all the people or being stuck in traffic. I will be pleased when we can finally go to the coast and enjoy fish and chips without the crowds of people.

We have our own Welsh knuckle draggers, bigoted poorly educated who think they're superior because they can speak Welsh. A mixture of ignorance, drug problems, unemployment, we're no different from anywhere else but their vulnerability to nationalism by some politicians is concerning. They sneer at mid and southwalians

@Ritasueandbobtoo9

Burning homes in Wales is not a myth although goes back a good few years now. It definitely used to happen. One burnt down near me.

The second home issue is completely different to general tourism. I totally understand the dislike of second home owners - it's unethical and unreasonable when we don't have enough first homes for everyone. I get judgey about it and I don't live in a tourist area.

But there are areas of the country which really do need tourism, it's a major source of income - so they have to put up with the crowds in the summer, or live elsewhere. And as I said further up the thread, people display their entitlement when they're at home too. They don't save it for the customer service staff in the place they're on holiday in - they inflict it on their neighbouts.