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Tourists exodus today relieved

840 replies

justasking111 · 30/08/2021 09:16

Well it's over today the tsunami of tourists will be gone.

We have never experienced such, rudeness, aggressive behaviour from them as we have this summer. Our businesses have limped along short staffed, been abused, threatened as have locals. The littering has been something else.

I know everyone has had a bad year but so have the Welsh our lockdowns harder and longer than others.

We still wear masks in shops fgs

So hopefully you all had good holidays but glad of a bit of peace now

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ThreeLittleDots · 30/08/2021 13:00

Looking at it right now it's got long orange and red lines all over it

Yes, and always much worse during tourist season. I am allowed to feel relieved when commuting becomes quicker once again.

smallgoon · 30/08/2021 13:01

I don't think there's anything wrong with OP's post. I could never live in a touristy part of town, so those that do have my sympathies.

justasking111 · 30/08/2021 13:02

For those who indignantly state they're off to Spain, wherever again rather than the unwelcoming Brits. I suggest you learn Spanish etc, join their local FB groups their opinion of us is worse.

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Genderwitched · 30/08/2021 13:03

It's so sad, why is everything so horrible all the time. We have just got back from a week in Cornwall, it was lovely, weather beautiful and I booked a lot of things ahead of time so that we had a few meals out etc.

We go every year, but this year our lovely small camp in Hayle was booked so we went to Mousehole. We wandered around, kept ourselves to ourselves and were polite to everyone. But the kids don't want to go back. They felt unwelcome, overheard a few off remarks, and even heard a couple of people on a bus talking about burning second homes down like they do in Wales.

And we paid a FORTUNE. We don't expect to be treated like the Queen but we felt unwelcome, even disliked. I don't know if I want to go back either. I'm sad.

stepupandbecounted · 30/08/2021 13:03

Just move and stop moaning.

HesterShaw1 · 30/08/2021 13:03

@ThreeLittleDots

The poster I originally referred to said that tourism employs a tiny tiny minority in Cornwall, which is demonstrably untrue

That was me too. My first comment said 'economy', my second referred to jobs. Two different things. A lot of money generated from tourism leaves the county and doesn't benefit locals.

Ah it was you. My apologies.

I still disagree with you though. Estimates really vary, but some say 40-50% of the income of the Cornish economy is directly or indirectly dependent on tourism. Official figures (which don't take into account many part time seasonal jobs of the kind that students do) are that 22,000 people are directly employed by the tourism industry. It doesn't sound like much, but that's directly.

I'm not saying this is a desirable situation by the way. It's not. Cornwall's young people deserve better. It would be much healthier to have a broader base, with better pay.

Standrewsschool · 30/08/2021 13:04

I guess the op can always move to a non-touristy part of the Uk.

HesterShaw1 · 30/08/2021 13:05

@Genderwitched, I'm really sorry you had this experience in Mousehole :(

justasking111 · 30/08/2021 13:06

@smallgoon

I don't think there's anything wrong with OP's post. I could never live in a touristy part of town, so those that do have my sympathies.
AHH no it's grand usually the place is buzzing it's the not usual tourists that are spoiling it.

When our council workers have to check for human waste in flower displays something is amiss

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 30/08/2021 13:07

If the curse second-home ownership doesn't force locals to move, that is

And except for new builds, who sold those homes to them?

Funny how so many blame the "outsiders" and ignore the prior residents who happily took their money

justasking111 · 30/08/2021 13:09

@Standrewsschool

I guess the op can always move to a non-touristy part of the Uk.
Don't be daft
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stepupandbecounted · 30/08/2021 13:09

gender our experience was the same. My children were told to wear masks in shops even though younger children don't need to, and have never had to before. Apparently Cornwall is a special exception. People were rude almost everywhere, there was a hostile atmosphere and it was five thousand pounds for one week. We could have gone anywhere in the world for that money, and been treated with kindness and respect.

Op reminds of exactly the type of person we came across, regularly.

justasking111 · 30/08/2021 13:11

@Puzzledandpissedoff

If the curse second-home ownership doesn't force locals to move, that is

And except for new builds, who sold those homes to them?

Funny how so many blame the "outsiders" and ignore the prior residents who happily took their money

Exactly. A developer is building 150 new homes housing association taking on 56. Locals moaning they should be given them because it's their home town. Ummmm
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ThreeLittleDots · 30/08/2021 13:11

Hestershaw1

Whichever figures you look at, it is not objectively true to say that the majority of Cornwall jobs or the economy relies on tourism, directly or indirectly.

So the attitude of "you should be grateful to have us instead of relieved when we go home" doesn't really hold up, especially for the majority of employees and workers who do not benefit financially from holidaymakers.

Genderwitched · 30/08/2021 13:13

@HesterShaw1 Thanks.

And I must be careful not to judge everyone by a few miserable people, we met some lovely people as well and it's so beautiful there Smile

FuckingFabulous · 30/08/2021 13:13

We went to Cornwall. We regularly do. This time, I felt that we were met with quite shocking attitudes from staff in hospitality. A barman actually shouted at my daughter in her wheelchair that she was in his way as he wove through tables with a tray of drinks. She was sitting at the table and he was walking round groups of people standing and loitering in the pathway between tables. He didn't yell at any of them. Just at my daughter. My DH immediately left with the children as I went in and asked for a refund and complained about the man. Was given the refund with a snippy, "tempers do fray, we are working during this pandemic, not lounging on holiday"

It was reflected on their trip advisor rating.

ThreeLittleDots · 30/08/2021 13:14

And personally I would never make comments under my breath or otherwise to a tourist, that's just horrible, but we are allowed to be relieved to have a bit of peace soon.

KaycePollard · 30/08/2021 13:15

These people are broken, their mental health impaired, their ability to cope limited. Why not try being nicer/compassionate rather than just mindlessly barking back?

This is weird special pleading, @stepupandbecounted You are excusing tourists and those on holiday from their bad behaviour towards other UK people working in the hospitality industry. Don't you think those workers are also "broken, their mental health impaired, their ability to cope limited" - but of course, in order for you to have a nice holiday, they have to suck it up, and put up with fellow citizens' rudeness?

Most people working in seasonal hospitality/tourist industry jobs are on national minimum wage, zero hours contracts, working very log hours, and often living in dormitory style accommodation - particularly in areas where second homes have priced out young locals from even rental accommodation.

You might stop your rather smug preaching and actually think about everyone in these situations.

Mumsnut · 30/08/2021 13:17

I think everyone needs a re-set button after the last year and a bit.

justasking111 · 30/08/2021 13:19

@Genderwitched

It's so sad, why is everything so horrible all the time. We have just got back from a week in Cornwall, it was lovely, weather beautiful and I booked a lot of things ahead of time so that we had a few meals out etc.

We go every year, but this year our lovely small camp in Hayle was booked so we went to Mousehole. We wandered around, kept ourselves to ourselves and were polite to everyone. But the kids don't want to go back. They felt unwelcome, overheard a few off remarks, and even heard a couple of people on a bus talking about burning second homes down like they do in Wales.

And we paid a FORTUNE. We don't expect to be treated like the Queen but we felt unwelcome, even disliked. I don't know if I want to go back either. I'm sad.

Burning homes in Wales well that's a myth. Guess the South West has its own eejits
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KaycePollard · 30/08/2021 13:20

I found the primitive attitude, the poor service and surly shopkeepers, waiters with no training and a general gone to the dogs feeling not what I went on holiday for

Your posts are hypocritical @stepupandbecounted - you assume that those working in the hospitality industry have not had bereavements etc. And don't need a break themselves. Your attitude to those around you is very much lacking in compassion.

justasking111 · 30/08/2021 13:21

@Mumsnut

I think everyone needs a re-set button after the last year and a bit.
Good idea
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lllllllllll · 30/08/2021 13:23

Was given the refund with a snippy, "tempers do fray, we are working during this pandemic, not lounging on holiday"

Ridiculous. They’re in the tourism industry and it’s the height of summer, of course they’re not lounging on holiday. Honestly the attitude of some people is shocking!

Genderwitched · 30/08/2021 13:24

Burning homes in Wales well that's a myth. Guess the South West has its own eejits

But that's all you take from my post?

lllllllllll · 30/08/2021 13:25

But the kids don't want to go back. They felt unwelcome, overheard a few off remarks

Perhaps you inadvertently crossed paths with the OP?