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Tourists exodus today relieved

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justasking111 · 30/08/2021 09:16

Well it's over today the tsunami of tourists will be gone.

We have never experienced such, rudeness, aggressive behaviour from them as we have this summer. Our businesses have limped along short staffed, been abused, threatened as have locals. The littering has been something else.

I know everyone has had a bad year but so have the Welsh our lockdowns harder and longer than others.

We still wear masks in shops fgs

So hopefully you all had good holidays but glad of a bit of peace now

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LuckyLuckyWoman · 30/08/2021 11:15

I haven't had a holiday at all this year. Not only tourists cause issues. One local park had an appeal after last BH for folk to go along and help with the clean up. It was absolutely disgusting.

When the kids were small we went to Cornwall every summer. Six adults and seven kids. We went to the beach every day. Picnic lunches, a walk for an icecream. Lovely long days in the sun. We always took rubbish bags with us and made sure that everyone of us took part in clearing up after ourselves, even the youngest. Manners cost nothing and everyone benefits from being able to enjoy a beach/park etc that is not full of rubbish.

Have booked for Wales next year as I'm not that comfy with getting back on a plane just yet. Hoping things will be settled by then and we can all enjoy ourselves, tourists and locals alike.

znaika · 30/08/2021 11:16

@CampaignToo

If you really can't staff your business to cope with the volume of customers, you need to take fewer customers, surely?
sometimes the tourists just barge in and get aggro if you ask them to wait- it's like people have no understanding how base some human behaviour is.
RockingMyFiftiesNot · 30/08/2021 11:16

All tourists can be annoying, rude, disrespectful if you don’t feel it’s directed at you why be so defensive unless you know you can act like an entitled twat

I don't like being accused of something I haven't done so like to defend myself - doesn't make me entitled or a twat.

I've enjoyed exploring the UK this year but now I know how unwelcome I am, will be very glad to be able to get on a plane again.

fromdownwest · 30/08/2021 11:16

I live in a tourist area of Wales, don’t blame the tourists.

Blame the incompetent and deliberately decisive welsh Governemnt for their mixed messages, slow responses and petty point scoring.

Take tourists out of these communities and they will be nothing.

fromdownwest · 30/08/2021 11:17

*divisive

category12 · 30/08/2021 11:17

@Neverrains

Mostly this is seasonal labour - they simply don't need the people off-season. So it would usually be the Aussies and Europeans over here as the extra bodies to work the season

But you can’t blame the tourists who are paying these huge prices for the fact that the industry doesn’t have the staff to to be able to provide a decent service. Of course people paying over the odds for a service will want that service providing adequately.
Zero excuse for rudeness and aggression however.

Well, of course, but you'd hope for a bit of tolerance and understanding going both ways. These have been extraordinary times.
znaika · 30/08/2021 11:18

Goodness some people are touchy, surely if you're a normal tourist you have noticed the twattos and the brayers and felt equally repulsed by them.

CampaignToo · 30/08/2021 11:18

@FlumpsAreShit

I live in a touristy area in Northern Ireland (by the way we are still wearing masks in shops too...) and don't recognise this at all. Without tourists I don't think my local lovely pub on the Lough would survive. Or the little boutiques nearby. And I haven't experienced any of that behaviour....maybe your area attracts a horrid cross section of tourists?
Oh, I went to NI for my last holiday before all this started. DH is ex Army and was very reluctant, fearing that as he still looked a like a soldier, people might be hostile. We had the best time, everyone was lovely and wow, pubs and restaurants were cheap Grin
Lonelylooloo · 30/08/2021 11:19

If you live in a touristy area then the inconvenience of tourists goes with the decision to live there

If you choose to live in the centre of St Ives then yes fair enough but there’s lots of people like me who don’t live in a ‘tourist area’ but have our small country roads jammed up constantly by tourists who think they’re clever and sneaky avoiding the traffic on the designated motorway to a nearby tourist place Hmm the large motorway is designed and built to deal with the masses of traffic heading to the tourist area, blocking up country roads for hours because you CBA to wait in the proper queue is total CF twatty behaviour.
Locals who can’t get to the doctors or shops, farmers who can’t access their own fields, local businesses held hostage by tourist traffic jams non of which stop or purchase anything. Twats the lot of them!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 30/08/2021 11:20

Its not tourists that are the problem … its awful people

Very well put - and that includes some of the locals

As someone from a tourist board once said, "The British have a reputation for mean and grudging hospitality - and they deserve it"

marmaladehound · 30/08/2021 11:20

I normally holiday in the UK more than overseas pre Covid and I have to say I wish I had not bothered going away this year at all. Both holidays, neither in wales, were not as nice as they normally are. Just way too many people as people just wanted to get away and couldn't go overseas until recently, so UK holiday tourist hot spots have been overrun! Good for business but overcrowded and not much fun. I can appreciate how crap it would be to live in any one of these places this summer! Next year we're going overseas!

KaycePollard · 30/08/2021 11:22

God I live in a touristy area and I for one am relieved it's nearly over.

Yup, me too. We usually have a very low rate of COVID infections and few hospital admissions. Now we're one of the most infectious areas in the country, and fucking no-one wears masks inside. (Well, I do as I"m not stupid or selfish).

WorraLiberty · 30/08/2021 11:22

@justasking111

We're just not used to knifings, fighting in a pub because one bloody beer has run out. Being physically threatens because you politely point out that an area is for staff only. Leaving awful reviews on Google because they had to wait in a line for a table to be cleaned down even though they were walk ins. Or hurling abuse because there was not a free table or were asked for track and trace details.

The knuckle draggers were out in force this summer. Where do they usually holiday I wonder??

The knuckle draggers were out in force this summer. Where do they usually holiday I wonder??

At home in other parts of Wales?

LubaLuca · 30/08/2021 11:23

I'm sure your local business owners were moaning last year as well, for different reasons. They have to take the rough with the smooth when they cater for tourists, and a quick look at their balance sheets will perk them up once their feet have touched the ground again.

I live in a lovely tourist area of N Wales, I haven't heard anyone moaning. The opposite in fact - cafe and restaurant owners are very pleased to be struggling to cope with the demand, and my friend who opened an ice cream parlour this year has been successful beyond her wildest dreams. No reports of knuckle-draggers here Hmm

And as for Wales having it worse than England - come off it. I work in England, and it's been shit for everyone there as well.

Lightisnotwhite · 30/08/2021 11:23

Do you ever go on holiday?

How does someone visiting an area as a tourist equate to the mass tourism of the summer holiday? Clue: it doesn’t.
Numbers of tourists are the problem.

You can visit out of season, avoid parking inappropriately , go to the beach early or late, pick up your litter You can be a tourist and not cause umpteen problems for the local area.

TSSDNCOP · 30/08/2021 11:24

You absolutely lost me at "knuckledraggers".

It seems you are lumping all tourists into a bucket with some that demonstrate poor behaviour which is ridiculously unfair.

I've no doubt the residents of holiday destinations around the world are challenged by peak periods and breathe a sigh of relief when things quite down. People holidaying don't enjoy those people's behaviour either.

It just seems like the people in and who's income relies on tourism those areas like Paphos, Marbella etc are smart enough not to post on sites like this when people are already considering next years destination.

makingmyway10 · 30/08/2021 11:25

I am one of those (gasp) second hone owners. I too love the area better when it’s quieter but appreciate that tourists bring money. It’s always busy in peak season and obviously more so this year but after next week it will be quieter again.The local business owners I know have welcomed the extra revenue after three lockdowns. I have never felt unwelcome although one look on the local Facebook blog is enough to tell me that local people hate me and I am not welcome. I have not experienced that in real life though except last week when we were there and a local old lady was loudly moaning in a cafe that ‘ grockles’ are worse than low life!!
I use local services, local tradespeople, shop local and donate to local charities. I never drop litter or park badly. I love the local area so much I invested in it. I can’t do any more to mitigate the fact I have a second home. I won’t be intimidated into feeling bad though by anyone.

Heliachi · 30/08/2021 11:25

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GrandDuchessRomanov · 30/08/2021 11:26

Thanks for reminding me of one of the many reasons why in 3 days time (if all goes to plan) I will be in Antigua rather than the UK OP.

We were lucky enough to be there at the same time last year and the loss of tourism has been desperate for the Islanders, with nothing like some of the support systems we have had access to here.

Literally every local we talked to asked us to persuade our friends and family to start visiting again, how much the tourists were missed and how grateful they were that people were visiting.

LindaEllen · 30/08/2021 11:27

@justasking111

We're just not used to knifings, fighting in a pub because one bloody beer has run out. Being physically threatens because you politely point out that an area is for staff only. Leaving awful reviews on Google because they had to wait in a line for a table to be cleaned down even though they were walk ins. Or hurling abuse because there was not a free table or were asked for track and trace details.

The knuckle draggers were out in force this summer. Where do they usually holiday I wonder??

Show me the local newspaper report (which of course there would be) that tells the story of someone being knifed because a beer had ran out.

People have called you out, and you're now talking bollocks to try and claw it back.

Grow up.

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 30/08/2021 11:27

I think people’s mental health has really been affected by everything and people aren’t that capable of behaving rationally in certain situations.

I also think there has always been a culture of mediocre / poor service in Wales in some establishments, which has been much more obvious when more people are wanting to be served.

GoodnightGrandma · 30/08/2021 11:27

Heliachi - amen to that.
I’m a nurse and I was just thinking about what we have to put up with year on year, compared to a few months of tourist season.

lorca · 30/08/2021 11:28

I'm holidaying in South Wales later in September - what are the Actual Laws around masks? Do I have to wear them in shops/restaurants? In the street? On a beach? Hmm

I don't wear a mask at all in Surrey. Not since Freedom Day Hmm although I am in the minority .

TheyWentToSeaInASieve · 30/08/2021 11:29

Well, I hope your local area received a much needed economic boost. Without the tourist pound, many parts of the UK wouldn't survive.

OhWhyNot · 30/08/2021 11:29

RockingMyFiftiesNot* I don’t need to defend myself as I know I am polite and respectful

But I can also understand having visited places that are quite apart from the summer months that locals get fed up with all of us - yes we bring money but just our numbers can be annoying and that some of us are not so nice

Are people to be grateful always of course not people are allowed to be fed up with us tourists to think not is entitled