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To not understand why we have now got rid of isolation for household members?

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AlexaShutUp · 25/08/2021 22:29

Sorry if there is already a thread on this, but isn't it a bit crazy to be sending children into school when their parents and/or siblings have tested positive for covid?

I totally get that the pinging was getting too much and I am OK with a lot of rules being relaxed as we have to get back to some kind of normality at some stage, but surely it isn't unreasonable for members of the same household to carry on isolating. Isn't it going to spread like wildfire as soon as schools open up?

It just seems crazy...

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LakieLady · 26/08/2021 15:46

Have you seen the latest about vaccines not providing 100% protection and that people can still spread it when vaccinated

I have a friend in a senior NHS position. She says that the majority of people admitted with Covid recently have had both vaccinations.

If this is the picture nationally, it seems that the current vaccines are pretty ineffective against the Delta varian.

LakieLady · 26/08/2021 15:50

@maddening

For passing contacts I totally agree that scrapping isolation is the right thing.

But households should definitely isolate imo.

I think that's fair.

I want people to stop getting ill so that hospital occupancy goes down and I have a chance of getting my knee replaced before the rest of me falls apart.

lljkk · 26/08/2021 18:08

The main risk factor for severe illness is advanced age. Vaccines don't change that. Most ppl have had the jab, > 90% if age 50+. Sometimes vaccines will not provide 100% protection. Therefore most ppl admitted will be old & vaccinated.

Most ppl with covid prevented from going to hospital with covid - will also be old vaccinated ppl.

BoomChicka · 26/08/2021 18:31

@LakieLady

Have you seen the latest about vaccines not providing 100% protection and that people can still spread it when vaccinated

I have a friend in a senior NHS position. She says that the majority of people admitted with Covid recently have had both vaccinations.

If this is the picture nationally, it seems that the current vaccines are pretty ineffective against the Delta varian.

Not really comparable.. in January, with lockdown and vaccinations just starting, the peak was 35,000 people in hospital. Today, with no lockdown and the majority vaccinated there are 6000 in hospital. One day in January peaked at nearly 5000 new admissions - in one day!

Eilatan2018 · 26/08/2021 18:47

You have to isolate if a family member you live with is positive and you work for the NHS as we got an email saying so. However I could still send my child to nursery! Seems bonkers… however I want some normality now!!

Hemingwaycat · 26/08/2021 18:51

What does it mean when people say learn to live with it?

It means people get vaccinated where possible but other than that, we just carry on as normal so no more lockdowns and no more isolating because we sat next to someone on a bus who then tested positive a few days later.

We can’t keep shutting ourselves away, it’s destroying the economy but more importantly people’s mental health. We just have to get on with things now and accept it isn’t going away but most people are ok even if they do catch it. I’m not a right winger or Boris fan by any means but he was right with regards to the average age of covid deaths being higher than the life expectancy.

BluebellsGreenbells · 27/08/2021 00:14

You have to isolate if a family member you live with is positive and you work for the NHS as we got an email saying so

Our MPs still aren’t meeting in person

Government care homes have limited visitors under strict conditions

Medical settings, doctors, dentists, opticians require temp checks and masks.

All these are government run facilities where they are responsible for staff welfare.

Staff also expected to isolate if household member tests positive and work from home

Some have 7 days lateral flow test requirement others is twice weekly.

One rule for one, one rule for others.

Rainbowsew · 27/08/2021 00:22

You're lucky to be able to stay off work in such a situation then.

I doubt many employers would be happy to facilitate well people to stay at home!

Rainbowsew · 27/08/2021 00:23

@Rainbowsew

You're lucky to be able to stay off work in such a situation then.

I doubt many employers would be happy to facilitate well people to stay at home!

That was to the op saying they wouldn't go into work if household members had something like norovirus.

Rainbowsew · 27/08/2021 00:26

@Eilatan2018

This isn't the case anymore if you have had both jabs

JesusIsAnyNameFree · 27/08/2021 00:28

When does school in England go back anyway? Is the increase in cases due to them being back now?

Rainbowsew · 27/08/2021 00:38

@Wakeywakey86 - this is what a lot of people don't realise, some people are not privileged enough to be able to stay off work when not feeling ill/have no symptoms, it's also why for eons many people go to work when obviously ill!

CirqueDeMorgue · 27/08/2021 01:23

[quote Rainbowsew]@Wakeywakey86 - this is what a lot of people don't realise, some people are not privileged enough to be able to stay off work when not feeling ill/have no symptoms, it's also why for eons many people go to work when obviously ill![/quote]
Exactly. I've just finished isolating with covid but before I tested positive, I thought I was coming down with flu. Everyone was happy for me to potentially go in to work with flu. 😂 And I would have because the alternative is being seen as unreliable and losing money.

User5827372728 · 27/08/2021 06:33

@JesusIsAnyNameFree

Nope we aren’t even back yet! Our kids first day is the 6th sept

tigger1001 · 27/08/2021 07:10

@NoIDontWatchLoveIsland

Supercalifragilistic The people who are able to choose to isolate their whole household if one person is ill need to recognise that they are very privileged not to need to maintain their income for potentially weeks at a time. In the real world people use good hygiene procedures and common sense but still go about their normal life.

This.

Also agree with this.

I've never known anyone, until covid, stay off work/school just because someone else in the house was sick, unless it was to look after a young child. Wasn't something my parents did either. Never seen anyone query why someone was in work yet a child or a partner was unwell either.

I am lucky in that I could work at home should that rule come into force. But, like many others, my partner couldn't and would have to take the unpaid and that's just not affordable to us.

HalfShrunkMoreToGo · 27/08/2021 07:53

@JesusIsAnyNameFree

When does school in England go back anyway? Is the increase in cases due to them being back now?

In Leicester we ent back on Wednesday this week. Got a 'someone in your class tested positive' email on Thursday!

Eilatan2018 · 27/08/2021 08:08

@Rainbowsew yes it is! We had an official email last week saying even if you have been vaccinated you still must isolate if a family member is positive. Maybe not the same for all trusts but in East Kent it definitely is!

a8mint · 28/08/2021 09:53

[quote Eilatan2018]@Rainbowsew yes it is! We had an official email last week saying even if you have been vaccinated you still must isolate if a family member is positive. Maybe not the same for all trusts but in East Kent it definitely is![/quote]
Well that seems to be un direct condluct with government directive. Is it an independent school?

a8mint · 28/08/2021 09:53

*direct conflict

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