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My parents are Anti-Vax and think they are more clever

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Mikadua23 · 15/08/2021 09:38

My parents are in their early 50s , both work and when covid first started my mum was first to go and wear face mask and buy boxes of antibac gels of from amazon.

Now... they think covid is basically a piece of shit made of story and they laugh at people who still wear masks or take the vaccine suggesting that the are the "clever ones" because they know more.
I guess it's easy for them to say and laugh when they haven't actually lost anyone due to covid(luckily) .....
I personally know friends who had lost their loved ones and my views are completely different.
I stop pushing them to get the vaccination because each time I have it ended in big arguments.
I had covid while being pregnant and seriously it was the worst 2 weeks of my life, luckily I didn't need to be hospitalised.

They aren't scientists or doctors and it passes me right off that they gather their knowledge from Google/Facebook and other ridiculous sources. 🙄

I want them to be safe.

They believe that all vaccinated people will basically die soon due to effect and that the vaccination is being tested on us right now.

I wouldn't care any longer about their views if not that every single thing that happens is seen as a covid vaccine side effect, for example - my auntie got lost last weekend, she basically got herself so drunk to the point she passed out and nobody was able to find her.
She was so drunk that she fell and slept on grass on the country side.
Whole family was very worried, she has been found safe after a good few hours however my parents put it down to Covid vaccine side effects and she had her jab 1 week before.

It is getting really ridiculous.
I just hate the little mean comments they make towards me or my husband trying to make a point to show us that we are worse than them for getting the vaccine or believing in covid.

Ugh.

OP posts:
saraclara · 15/08/2021 21:57

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow

Boomers have weaker skills in assessing the quality of information sources like social media

😂😂😂😂😂yeah we’re all thick. Ds used to work at The Huff. Not exactly a reliable source.

I think we can all guess the age of that journalist!
BrozTito · 15/08/2021 22:04

Best way by far to deal with these sorts is to smuggly laugh at them and tell them vaccinations are actually lizard cells and turn us into cold blooded soup dragons and the world is a massive toffee run by simon cowell. Out do them, especially with smug 'do your research sheeple' horse shit. Even betteer if you can get them believing some then tell them you were lieing.

BrozTito · 15/08/2021 22:14

sst likes to drop in their US far right nonsense then vanish as backing up an ideology even as low intelligence as that is beyond them.

BrozTito · 15/08/2021 22:19

The baby boomer internet info thing is pretty widely studied and understood. Ive never known a demographic so adept at being able to dish it out for years but not take it. spectatorworld.com/topic/baby-boomers-social-media/

saraclara · 15/08/2021 22:23

[quote BrozTito]The baby boomer internet info thing is pretty widely studied and understood. Ive never known a demographic so adept at being able to dish it out for years but not take it. spectatorworld.com/topic/baby-boomers-social-media/[/quote]
Meanwhile young people are getting their investment advice from Tik Tok.

Skiptheheartsandflowers · 15/08/2021 22:28

Every time they make one of their shitty comments, I would show them a video/story on my phone, and it would be one of the many reporting on someone who had refused the vaccine, then caught Covid, and when moved to intensive care then asked if it was too late for them to get the vaccine now as they'd changed their mind.

Reallyreallyborednow · 15/08/2021 23:02

Until he know the long-term effects of Covid and the vaccine we won't know who's right, so just leave it

You seriously think there’s a chance they’re right and the long term effect is death?

SycamoreGap · 15/08/2021 23:16

@sst1234

To be honest it’s hard not laugh at people still wearing masks. The rest is a bit OTT.
Glad you find my DH having leukaemia entertaining - he wears a mask because the evidence is that the vaccine isn’t as effective in blood cancer patients.
Feedingthebirds1 · 16/08/2021 02:03

[quote BrozTito]The baby boomer internet info thing is pretty widely studied and understood. Ive never known a demographic so adept at being able to dish it out for years but not take it. spectatorworld.com/topic/baby-boomers-social-media/[/quote]
I don't think an op-ed piece from the Spectator counts as scientific research. Find me (a baby boomer and in a former life a lecturer in computer science) something academic and peer reviewed and I'll listen.

YesIReallyDoLikeRootBeer · 16/08/2021 02:34

I had a dear friend who was like this. I say "had" because after laughing at me for getting the vaccine and all that, she caught Covid. She died from it. I of course was heart broken, but I wont lie, I'm also mad at her. Mad that she could still be here (most likely) if she had just stopped listening to ridiculous conspiracies and had the vax. I hope your parents dont have to learn the hard way like my friend did.

PinniGig · 16/08/2021 02:38

Sometimes I think the government should post its most current info / advice based on clinical evidence under the guise of “Shazza” via Facebook and similar.

Incredible how people are dumb as shit despite having all the world's information, knowledge and education at our fingertips. Granted having immediate access to such a wealth of knowledge means having to sift through and filter out the shite, but few people even consider going anywhere else but social media and getting their medical advice and most up to date information from Shazza.

I have a relative who frequently posts all sorts of shite and nonsense in line with the COVID hoax conspiracy theorists and anti-vax stuff when he's not posting about how much he misses his Mother who died in last year from COVID Hmm

HelgaDownUnder · 16/08/2021 02:39

If they actually believe the Earth is flat then there is no point arguing about anything with them. I mean, that is bizarre. Even in the middle ages it was known that the Earth was a sphere.

At the very most, there may have been people who thought it was a semi-circle with a flat bottom, but even that was a bit lowbrow.

I always assumed that the flat-earth movement was a big old larp. The evidence I've seen shows most of the members are young people, fond of a joke.
Pet pedantry - people saying the Earth is round. Plates are round. The Earth is a sphere.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_flat_Earth

PinniGig · 16/08/2021 02:52

[quote HelgaDownUnder]If they actually believe the Earth is flat then there is no point arguing about anything with them. I mean, that is bizarre. Even in the middle ages it was known that the Earth was a sphere.

At the very most, there may have been people who thought it was a semi-circle with a flat bottom, but even that was a bit lowbrow.

I always assumed that the flat-earth movement was a big old larp. The evidence I've seen shows most of the members are young people, fond of a joke.
Pet pedantry - people saying the Earth is round. Plates are round. The Earth is a sphere.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_flat_Earth[/quote]
I still don't understand why / for what reason they believe we're all being lied to about it. Why would the human race be lied to about the shape of the Earth anyway and what difference does it make in the great scheme of things?

There's always mad ideas and conspiracies but the flat Earth one is fascinating.

Seeing videos like this one for a primary school restores my faith though. I love that they strapped a teddy to a rocket, blasted his arse into space and we can see him getting higher and the Earth's curvature in the background.

CJsGoldfish · 16/08/2021 03:36

Small comfort for those who's fertility health has been compromised by the vaccine
To be honest it’s hard not laugh at people who walk around in a tin foil stupor 🤷‍♀️

Honestly OP, there is nothing you can do with those who lack a fundamental understanding of science, or more importantly, the scientific process. They will be the ones to ensure we never get beyond where we are at now despite all of their whining etc.

Sobeyondthehills · 16/08/2021 04:15

I personally would ignore, or the other option is to go more batshit.

The Earth is flat - actually its not completely flat other wise the elephants wouldn't be able to carry it and not get wet

Vaccines - People are not going to die, well they might do and then come back as Zombies

Bill Gates is chipping us - Its because he loves Bargain hunt and can't get it where he is

I can go on but they come out with something, just go more batshit, I will say I mainly do this to wind up people, if they are so far gone that they might believe it, don't do it

Guineapigbridge · 16/08/2021 04:33

Stupid is as stupid does

perhaps it wouldn't be bad for the world if all the stupid people died off...

PinniGig · 16/08/2021 04:54

One of the greatest examples and we used to help the kids learn how important it is to read up and research things themselves and not blindly believe what they're told was the Brass Eye episode about drugs.

Honest to God to think these people were so dumb and believed they were filming for a genuine campaign about this new, deadly “made up drug”

Kids belly laughed at how the drug triggers a part of the brain known as “Shatner's Bassoon” that slows time your perception of time and Noel Edmunds telling this tragic story of the boy killed by a tram after thinking he had a month to cross the road.

And my personal favourite is Bernard Manning One kiddie cried all the water out of his body. Imagine how his mother felt? It's a fucking disgrace Holy shit 😂😂

Don't assume grown ups and celebrities know best kids... it ain't necessarily so

DewDew83 · 16/08/2021 05:17

I don't think an op-ed piece from the Spectator counts as scientific research. Find me (a baby boomer and in a former life a lecturer in computer science) something academic and peer reviewed and I'll listen.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7505057/

SunShinesBrightly · 16/08/2021 06:01

I don't think an op-ed piece from the Spectator counts as scientific research. Find me (a baby boomer and in a former life a lecturer in computer science) something academic and peer reviewed and I'll listen.

All my arguments against conspiracy theories are met with ‘who wrote it?’ and dismissed.

PinniGig · 16/08/2021 07:21

The search continues...

My parents are Anti-Vax and think they are more clever
Yourstupidityexhaustsme · 16/08/2021 10:20

‘You are entitled to your opinion as I am entitled to mine. However I think it’s best we don’t discuss the matter any further.’ And repeat.

This is most likely a coping mechanism it happened with a degree to my mum (clinically vulnerable, had to shield etc. It got too much so she shut it out for a while but it wore off and she laughs now how ridiculous she became).

Are they disillusioned in other areas?

Theimpossiblegirl · 16/08/2021 10:25

@sst1234

To be honest it’s hard not laugh at people still wearing masks. The rest is a bit OTT.
Hilarious Hmm
Qwerty789 · 16/08/2021 10:34

To be honest it’s hard not laugh at people still wearing masks

Only for total morons.

longwayoff · 16/08/2021 10:52

But . . . Why does the sea not fall off the edge? Don't understand.

Lincslady53 · 16/08/2021 10:58

I have a school friend who has worked leukaemia research for 40 years, and for the last 30 has headed up a leukaemia research organisation. Part of his work has been involved with the transmission of a virus, bit like the HPV virus, that is transmitted by fish in paddy fields in SE Asia, and has been linked to triggering cancers. So he has had decades of experience in scientific field of immunology and transmission of diseases. He is very pro vaccination, and right from the beginning has lobbied parliament on the benefits of mask wearing. I prefer to listen to him, than random fb posts, and I will continue to wear a mask indoors and also maintain social distancing. All of my family are vaccinated, none have had any serious side effects. I have another friend who, along with his wife, contracted Covid from his grandchildren. They have had a terrible 2 weeks, are coming out of it now, but as he is a cancer survivor, he is convinced that without the vaccine he would now be dead.
I don't really have any advice for the OP except to hope her parents eventually come round and see sense. They are being very foolish and reckless.