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Removing dairy

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Rizzoli123 · 14/08/2021 00:05

Posting for traffic

Just found out I need to remove the dairy in my diet. I don't normally drink tea but of I so someone said have the Oatly batista milk but I worried if I have it in hot chocolate as I don't want it to taste like porridge.

As I am removing dairy can anyone recommend dairy free products to try such as cheese, yoghurt, chocolate and ice cream and and any snacks that don't contain dairy.

N. B

I have been diagnosed with a medical condition called ademoysis and a website I was encouraged to look at says I need to remove dairy to help ease symptoms. I am not doing it for any other reason then to help.

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Rizzoli123 · 14/08/2021 00:07

So basically any replacement for anything dairy.

Also any gluten and or wheat free alternatives

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StrawberryPuff · 14/08/2021 00:07

Hazelnut milk is good in hot chocolate and on cereal.

Graphista · 14/08/2021 00:08

I'm veggie not vegan but I have occasionally had dairy alternatives. Soy milk I actually prefer in hot chocolate and coffee, not tea so much. Dairy free yoghurts I think you'd be hard pushed to notice a difference, I haven't tried vegan cheeses recently they used to be dreadful but apparently they have improved greatly I keep meaning to try again

Sorry I've not been much help but didn't want to leave you without replies so hopefully this will bump too

Rizzoli123 · 14/08/2021 00:09

@Graphista

I'm veggie not vegan but I have occasionally had dairy alternatives. Soy milk I actually prefer in hot chocolate and coffee, not tea so much. Dairy free yoghurts I think you'd be hard pushed to notice a difference, I haven't tried vegan cheeses recently they used to be dreadful but apparently they have improved greatly I keep meaning to try again

Sorry I've not been much help but didn't want to leave you without replies so hopefully this will bump too

You have been a wonderful help thank you
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Rizzoli123 · 14/08/2021 00:09

SIDE NOTE NO SOY EITHER Confused

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Nsky · 14/08/2021 00:13

Engevita used in cooking is great, cheesy yeasty taste made by marigold.
Oat cream is good too, try soya soft cheese

LondonTTC · 14/08/2021 00:15

Dairy free cheese from independent brand Kinda Co is the best (I'm dairy free) if you like proper cheese, like for a cheeseboard. They ship from online orders but have loads of stockists in London if you live there.

I see you've said no soy. I find soy is the best for yogurt and coconut yogurts are no good. It's too overwhelming a flavour.

Nutritional yeast flakes (sounds strange but isn't) is the best substitute for a 'cheesy' flavour to make macaroni cheese etc.

pastabest · 14/08/2021 00:18

Have you been advised to do this by a medical professional/ the NHS or is this a decision you've made after reading stuff from the US online?

For example the 'Adenomyosis Advice Association' website seems to be a bit of a one woman band rather than a proper association...

Rizzoli123 · 14/08/2021 00:18

@LondonTTC

Dairy free cheese from independent brand Kinda Co is the best (I'm dairy free) if you like proper cheese, like for a cheeseboard. They ship from online orders but have loads of stockists in London if you live there.

I see you've said no soy. I find soy is the best for yogurt and coconut yogurts are no good. It's too overwhelming a flavour.

Nutritional yeast flakes (sounds strange but isn't) is the best substitute for a 'cheesy' flavour to make macaroni cheese etc.

Thanks. The website I was lead to said no soy, no dairy, no wheat or gluten and no bananas
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LoveMyBlanket · 14/08/2021 00:19

My DD has a dairy allergy, and she loves violife coconut based cheese spread (no dairy or soy). I’ve tried it and it’s nice and creamy, I like the taste though isn’t exactly like soft cheese!
Oatly ice cream is lovely.
I bake cakes using dairy free spread and can’t tell any difference (though no experience of naking them gluten free - I guess flap jacks are an easy go-too for a cakey snack if you get free from oats)

Percivalthebabyspider · 14/08/2021 00:22

Agree with nutritional yeast flakes, they are delicious. I love the pana chocolate brand, they do ice cream (including a magnum like substitute) and a chocolate spread too. Their ice cream is coconut based but very mild.

I do use soy milk but occasionally oat milk too.

Percivalthebabyspider · 14/08/2021 00:24

Oh and we use Natruli ‘butter’ and spread, it’s the best substitute I’ve found. I have yet to come across a decent non dairy cheese though I live in hope!

pastabest · 14/08/2021 00:24

The website I was lead to said no soy, no dairy, no wheat or gluten and no banana

It also says get 8 hours sleep and signs off the 'contact us' page with 'Danielle X'

Rizzoli123 · 14/08/2021 00:31

@pastabest

Have you been advised to do this by a medical professional/ the NHS or is this a decision you've made after reading stuff from the US online?

For example the 'Adenomyosis Advice Association' website seems to be a bit of a one woman band rather than a proper association...

It might not be to you but some of the things they say are true.

Before you start whinging again the gp has asked me to complete a diary eliminating dairy, wheat and gluten for a month to see if it has any effect on my symptoms

I get 9 hours sleep a day. So we'll over your so called 8 hour rule

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user1471457751 · 14/08/2021 00:34

@pastabest the OP hasn't actually said what website she has used.

OP does if have to be completely non dairy? I find lactose free cows milk to be the best if you tolerate it.

Saggybaggyaggy · 14/08/2021 00:39

I wouldn't try to REPLACE dairy as you'll be replacing natural food for ultra processed fake crap. I would just eat different, natural food.

Rizzoli123 · 14/08/2021 00:40

[quote user1471457751]@pastabest the OP hasn't actually said what website she has used.

OP does if have to be completely non dairy? I find lactose free cows milk to be the best if you tolerate it.[/quote]
No just said dairy free

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Rizzoli123 · 14/08/2021 00:42

@Saggybaggyaggy

I wouldn't try to REPLACE dairy as you'll be replacing natural food for ultra processed fake crap. I would just eat different, natural food.
No i will be. I have lots of meat, fish and vegetables to eat. Do you know if any natural food alternatives that don't contain dairy
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Saggybaggyaggy · 14/08/2021 00:49

Natural food alternatives to what? Dairy? No. Those dairy free dairy products will be shit. Just eat other natural things?

Saggybaggyaggy · 14/08/2021 00:50

You could maybe make your own oat milk, or nut milk?

GrandmasCat · 14/08/2021 00:54

I think it is better to learn to cook in a different way that doesn’t include dairy rather than trying to mimic dishes using non dairy versions of stuff because they don’t work that well and are expensive.

Avoiding soya all together may be a curse or a blessing. A curse because soya is EVERYWHERE hidden as hydrolysed vegetable protein. A blessing because if you want to avoid it, you will end up with a very healthy diet as you will be cooking everything from scratch.

MistySkiesAfterRain · 14/08/2021 00:57

Does the GP wants you to remove dairy and gluten at the same time?

Be aware that in America they consume a lot more dairy and the rules are more relaxed in regards to hormones being present in cows milk than UK which is strictly regulated.

If you are dairy sensitive by all means cut it out and see, but you also want to try adding back in the easier to digest dairies and see how you get on.

I'm dairy sensitive (estrogen condition) and I'm fine with small amounts of

  • good quality butter
  • natural yoghurt
  • young soft cheeses (especially lactose free)
  • gouda/edam

I avoid fermented, mature cheeses. I'll sometimes have lactofree milk.

There are lots of non dairy milks- I prefer to rotate between them and my favourites are hemp milk (great in tea), koko coconut milk, oat or rice milk.

TheComptonEffect · 14/08/2021 01:14

My DD is dairy free, some of her favourites;
Applewood smoked vegan cheese,
Little moons a nut based ice-cream type dessert,
Coco collective choc pot for pudding,
Oatily barista,
Oatily custard (tastes like melted ice cream),
Moo free chocolate,
Vegan pesto,
Soreen bars,
Pizza base packet mixes.
Would agree that cooking from scratch can often be easier as convince foods can sneak allergens in so we tend to have lots of meat plus veg or rice or couscous or pasta dishes.
Watch out for breads,crisps,cakes & biscuits especially.
When eating out check using oil instead of butter when cooking.

Rizzoli123 · 14/08/2021 01:27

@MistySkiesAfterRain

Does the GP wants you to remove dairy and gluten at the same time?

Be aware that in America they consume a lot more dairy and the rules are more relaxed in regards to hormones being present in cows milk than UK which is strictly regulated.

If you are dairy sensitive by all means cut it out and see, but you also want to try adding back in the easier to digest dairies and see how you get on.

I'm dairy sensitive (estrogen condition) and I'm fine with small amounts of

  • good quality butter
  • natural yoghurt
  • young soft cheeses (especially lactose free)
  • gouda/edam

I avoid fermented, mature cheeses. I'll sometimes have lactofree milk.

There are lots of non dairy milks- I prefer to rotate between them and my favourites are hemp milk (great in tea), koko coconut milk, oat or rice milk.

Yes I said not one and then the other. She said no a need to get an accurate assessment.
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Rizzoli123 · 14/08/2021 01:31

@TheComptonEffect

My DD is dairy free, some of her favourites; Applewood smoked vegan cheese, Little moons a nut based ice-cream type dessert, Coco collective choc pot for pudding, Oatily barista, Oatily custard (tastes like melted ice cream), Moo free chocolate, Vegan pesto, Soreen bars, Pizza base packet mixes. Would agree that cooking from scratch can often be easier as convince foods can sneak allergens in so we tend to have lots of meat plus veg or rice or couscous or pasta dishes. Watch out for breads,crisps,cakes & biscuits especially. When eating out check using oil instead of butter when cooking.
Thanks for this its amazing am defiantly going to try some. In fact have a small pot of the Oatly custard in the fridge to try. My husband is doing cooking for me with lots of fish, meat and vegetables x.

A friend of mine said she used lactase if she was going out as it broken down the enzymes of the milk and stopped any symptoms

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