Removing dairy

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Just found out I need to remove the dairy in my diet. I don't normally drink tea but of I so someone said have the Oatly batista milk but I worried if I have it in hot chocolate as I don't want it to taste like porridge.

As I am removing dairy can anyone recommend dairy free products to try such as cheese, yoghurt, chocolate and ice cream and and any snacks that don't contain dairy.

N. B

I have been diagnosed with a medical condition called ademoysis and a website I was encouraged to look at says I need to remove dairy to help ease symptoms. I am not doing it for any other reason then to help.

Oatly is fine. No strong flavor. I use it to make vegan hot chocolate. Hazelnut milk is good as a treat; soy milk is decent in baking. To keep your sugar content lower, look for the unsweetened versions.

Oh and I forgot the most important thing...coconut milk ice cream.

I use plenish nut milks - especially for cereal.

While I like that they are only 3 ingredients (nuts, water and salt), I do wish they had added calcium like some other milk replacements.

Can also recommend booja booja chocolates and ice cream.

But agree with the previous poster who suggested changing your diet to avoid these foods rather than trying to replace them with very processed alternatives.

So eat rice, potatoes and GF oats rather than pasta and bread alternatives. Eat sorbet rather than ice cream. Use olive oil rather than butter.

Also make sure you are tracking your calcium intake and taking a supplement where needed. Or look at fortified foods (milk replacements, cereals, orange juice).

Vegan food is diary free so just look for this

Oats contain gluten. You can't have them or oat milk if you're cutting out gluten. I'm coeliac and there's no way I can tolerate oats. Technically they have a slightly different form of gluten to wheat, rye and barley. I'm in Australia and here the official advice is that oats are regarded as containing gluten.

Lactase doesn't break down enzymes in milk. It is an enzyme. Its job is to break down lactose in milk. That's all it does.

Perhaps you could see a dietitian to get a properly planned gluten, dairy and soy free diet tailored to your food preferences.

Sorry to labour the point but i do perhaps have a vested interest in this which is why I've been looking into it.

I am really surprised that your GP has suggested a really restrictive diet to treat a gynaecological condition - there's no indication that this should be part of the treatment plan on the NHS website or in the NICE guidelines.

The only place I have been able to find this advice is on the Adenomyosis Advice Association website (which as I said appears to not be an official website and seems to be more like someone's own blog) or websites that have blindly reposted what's on the Adenomyosis Advice website without fact checking.

The Adenomyosis website also claims that various NHS bodies are following their advice/ campaign. One of them is the hospital trust I work for - I've very briefly checked our external and internal comms etc and the search returns ABSOLUTELY NOTHING almost as if we've never heard of them...

So I'll be passing that on internally for someone else's to look at more closely as I would imagine that there be some concern that our trust logo is being used, potentially without permission on what appears to be a website offering advice that hasn't got much clinical basis in the UK.

By all means have a healthy diet, sleep well etc that's just good advice for anyone medical issues or not.

Almond or Coconut milk is great for hot drinks

My understanding avoiding dairy for gyno conditions is not due to lactose but due to high content of hormones in cow milk.

Vegan feta is amazing, and very easy to make yourself. I often make it for my friend who is vegan for a veggie tart (a lot of supermarket puff pastry is also vegan as dairy free). I sprinkle the feta on top and you can't tell the difference.

I find making your own dairy free cheeses much nicer than store bought. Lots of recipes online.

Just be careful with milk alternatives as high in calories. Also women need to watch their soy intake.

Why do people insist on consuming pus-ridden cow breast milk as the natural option? There's nothing natural about drinking bodily fluids from another species

OP, do you definitely have to eradicate soy? If so, you'll need to cut down on meat as well because soy is present in most animal foods due to it being in their feed. To go soy free you'd need to essentially go whole foods plant based and cook from scratch. There are a few good Facebook groups for WFPB where you can get some good meal ideas and tips (though I'm firmly in the vegan junk food camp)

www.facebook.com/groups/whole.food.plant.based.no.oil.recipes/?ref=share

I also went dairy free for four years due to inflammation with reactive arthritis and PCOS. Made the world of difference in my arthritis flare ups.

Once I went into remission from the arthritis I re-introduced dairy under doctor supervision. Can have a little daily, but if I have too much I do see increase in PCOS symptoms.

Also women need to watch their soy intake

Rubbish.

Mozzerisella cheese is the dairy free alternative they use on vegan pizzas in Pizza Express and Zizzi. It’s actually really nice. I order ours from the local health food shop.

I bake a lot and use Pure, which works really well. Otherwise, there are fabulous dairy free cake recipes (nigella’s chocolate olive oil cake is amazing).

Jus-rol pastry (apart from the “all butter pastry!) and pain au chocolate/croissant dough is all dairy free and v nice.

Generally, we cook a lot of Chinese/thai food which is typically dairy free anyway and so don’t need to use replacements.

I'd recommend looking at the website www.alittlebityummy.com as this gives lots of advice and recipes for low fodmap, which is similar to what you're describing. I can't have lactose or soya (amongst other things) and current favourites are almond milk for hot chocolate (with green and blacks hot choc powder as it's milk free), coco collective choc pots for a sweet treat, aldi vegan magnum like ice creams, schar anything for gluten free. Has your gp not suggested referral to a dietician? Or is the food diary for that? Have they asked you to do a food diary of normal eating first? I had to fight to be referred - only to be given a pamphlet and left to get on with elimination and reintroduction

Good luck

@tropicalwaterdiver

My understanding avoiding dairy for gyno conditions is not due to lactose but due to high content of hormones in cow milk.

I would be really grateful to see a UK based source for that advice if you have one?

I can understand the concerns about hormones in US milk but that's mostly irrelevant to people consuming milk in the UK /EU.

Even if you don't want to take the chance on dairy for that reason what's the reason given for eliminating gluten and ... bananas?

It’s definitely worth trying. If it makes no difference then you’ll know.
Changing diets has helped many people with all sorts of conditions. Most people figure it out for themselves rather than get gp advice.
Dairy actually causes a Lot of issues for many people so carry on.
I don’t eat dairy as I don’t tolerate it well. There will be no medical evidence that it causes issues for me but I know it’s no coincidence.

I use oatly mainly. It doesn’t taste of porridge. Almond milk is good too. Try them and see which one you like.

I’ve discovered banana ice cream which is amazing. Frozen bananas blended with a dash of vanilla and oat milk and, if you like, other flavours such as berries or cocoa powder. Have a look on YouTube.
Any dairy free spread or sunflower oil works for baking.

Apart from that, I just have foods that don’t use dairy.
Snacks are fruit or hummus with crackers or veg sticks, nuts, ready salted crisps, popcorn.
Good luck.

Sorry I missed the no bananas.

I'm gluten and dairy free, the dairy free is recent...

Tesco own brand oat milk is just as nice as oatly.

Magnum do amazing vegan versions of their ice creams. Not sure if they are soya free too, sorry.

Cheese, not found a good one yet but honestly I find it easier not to bother with it at all - hummus, ham and salad instead of a cheese sandwich for example.

Thanks for this its amazing am defiantly going to try some.

You're not even being defiant, just sensible. Good luck!

@pastabest

Sorry to labour the point but i do perhaps have a vested interest in this which is why I've been looking into it.

I am really surprised that your GP has suggested a really restrictive diet to treat a gynaecological condition - there's no indication that this should be part of the treatment plan on the NHS website or in the NICE guidelines.

The only place I have been able to find this advice is on the Adenomyosis Advice Association website (which as I said appears to not be an official website and seems to be more like someone's own blog) or websites that have blindly reposted what's on the Adenomyosis Advice website without fact checking.

The Adenomyosis website also claims that various NHS bodies are following their advice/ campaign. One of them is the hospital trust I work for - I've very briefly checked our external and internal comms etc and the search returns ABSOLUTELY NOTHING almost as if we've never heard of them...

So I'll be passing that on internally for someone else's to look at more closely as I would imagine that there be some concern that our trust logo is being used, potentially without permission on what appears to be a website offering advice that hasn't got much clinical basis in the UK.

By all means have a healthy diet, sleep well etc that's just good advice for anyone medical issues or not.

If you read it properly it said it was for the hormone reasons. It may not be an official website more a blog like you say but isn't life full of experience and what's the saying aren't we supposed to learn from experience

Well she did and I asked why such restrictive measures and she said as this has worked for other patients so let's try for a month and see. It's a month. Fitting these things out for a month isn't going to kill me.

I know that good diet and sleep is better theb anything but I'm in pain what's the harm in trying something that could relive the symptoms. If I follow your advice I will just carry on as I am and be in pain for the rest of my life

Gluten also bloats me has done for years and I have cut It out slowly after the last 3 years at least . I don't eat alot of it anyway. I have salads instead of sandwiches so i dont like rice. Also no bananas as I don't like them or the taste

My DS is dairy free and we/he likes

Alpro unsweetened oat milk (there is a lot of sugar in dairy replacement milks which I was surprised about, which is why I buy the no sugar version)
Oatly ice cream
Vegan magnums
Wicked chocolate and berry cornettos
Wicked black olive pesto
Asda free from pesto
Naturli block butter
Flora plant life block butter
Pure butter spread
Vitalite spread
Heavenly squirty cream
Alpro custard
Biscoff spread
Violife cheese
Vitalite block cheese
Moo free chocolate
Aldi/Tesco/Lidl ice creams
Vegan Cornettos
Oatly cream

There is more dairy free food than you realise, you need to get into reading labels on everything. Things such as Oreos and jammy dodgers are dairy free. Green and blacks dark chocolate powder is good for cakes. Be careful with crisps and bread, I’ve no idea why so many salt and vinegar crisps contain milk.

Lidl and Aldi sell the cheapest milk!

@TheRabbitStoleMyHat

My DS is dairy free and we/he likes

Alpro unsweetened oat milk (there is a lot of sugar in dairy replacement milks which I was surprised about, which is why I buy the no sugar version)
Oatly ice cream
Vegan magnums
Wicked chocolate and berry cornettos
Wicked black olive pesto
Asda free from pesto
Naturli block butter
Flora plant life block butter
Pure butter spread
Vitalite spread
Heavenly squirty cream
Alpro custard
Biscoff spread
Violife cheese
Vitalite block cheese
Moo free chocolate
Aldi/Tesco/Lidl ice creams
Vegan Cornettos
Oatly cream

There is more dairy free food than you realise, you need to get into reading labels on everything. Things such as Oreos and jammy dodgers are dairy free. Green and blacks dark chocolate powder is good for cakes. Be careful with crisps and bread, I’ve no idea why so many salt and vinegar crisps contain milk.

Lidl and Aldi sell the cheapest milk!

Thank you for this. I will look at all of these and try as many as I can

I love oatly milk, you don’t need the barista one for tea/coffee it’s basically the same as the normal one. Their whole range is great and the plant ranges in most supermarkets are decent. If you have Facebook search for a local vegan group, mine posts regular tips for good meals, restaurants, new items in stock etc. There are also some good vegan recipe groups. I hope it improves your health 😊

Clearly England has some sort of gluten free oats that the rest of the world doesn't for everyone to keep suggesting oat milk.
www.coeliac.org.au/s/article/Oats-and-the-gluten-free-diet