Removing dairy

[Rizzoli123]

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Just found out I need to remove the dairy in my diet. I don't normally drink tea but of I so someone said have the Oatly batista milk but I worried if I have it in hot chocolate as I don't want it to taste like porridge.

As I am removing dairy can anyone recommend dairy free products to try such as cheese, yoghurt, chocolate and ice cream and and any snacks that don't contain dairy.

N. B

I have been diagnosed with a medical condition called ademoysis and a website I was encouraged to look at says I need to remove dairy to help ease symptoms. I am not doing it for any other reason then to help.

I'm not vegan, but work in food and have spent a lot of time finding dairy alternatives

Best options I've found are

• Elmlea Plant Cream (doesn't taste identical, but good as an ingredient and it's by far the best at 'behaving' like cream)
• Food Heaven squirty cream
• Oatly barista BUT it's not technically gluten free - just www.oatly.com/uk/healthcareprofessionals/faq/gluten-free+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">'very low gluten'. Based on what my customers tell me, most who aren't coeliacs are ok with this level of gluten. I do drink regular cows milk and if anything I think Oatly is nicer in coffee.

Vegan cheese is, unfortunately, nowhere near as well advanced as other types of dairy alternatives.

.... but, like others, I'd seriously question your actual need to remove dairy, and your info sources.

A friend of mine said she used lactase if she was going out as it broken down the enzymes of the milk and stopped any symptoms

This is fine for people with a lactose intolerance - but many with a milk allergy are allergic to the milk proteins, and lactase will have zero impact on that.

[quote FeralWoman]Clearly England has some sort of gluten free oats that the rest of the world doesn't for everyone to keep suggesting oat milk.
www.coeliac.org.au/s/article/Oats-and-the-gluten-free-diet[/quote]
Oats are gluten free.

However production methods mean they can become contaminated with gluten from other grains milled using the same equipment.

Additionally some people with coeliac disease can also be sensitive to the protein in oats which is avenin rather than gluten which is the protein that is in wheat, barley, rye

In the UK we do indeed have 'gluten free oats' which are oats that are milled entirely separately from gluten containing grains.

@DeathByWalkies

I'm not vegan, but work in food and have spent a lot of time finding dairy alternatives

Best options I've found are

• Elmlea Plant Cream (doesn't taste identical, but good as an ingredient and it's by far the best at 'behaving' like cream)
• Food Heaven squirty cream
• Oatly barista BUT it's not technically gluten free - just www.oatly.com/uk/healthcareprofessionals/faq/gluten-free+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">'very low gluten'. Based on what my customers tell me, most who aren't coeliacs are ok with this level of gluten. I do drink regular cows milk and if anything I think Oatly is nicer in coffee.

Vegan cheese is, unfortunately, nowhere near as well advanced as other types of dairy alternatives.

.... but, like others, I'd seriously question your actual need to remove dairy, and your info sources.

The gp told me about it. She said she had had heard alot of good things from women who had eliminated dairy. She said it had taken some of the pain away. I didn't really understand so I researched and asked my friends two are nurses and people who suffer from the condition. They said eliminate dairy was great as it stopped the pain and bloating that normally happened.

I did look at various websites and I asked several people's oppion. I didn't just wake up one morning and think that's it I'm not drinking milk anymore. I did vast amounts of research and I came to the conclusion that I maybe should try and see what happens.

My gp said when she called again to try it for a month and see if it had any effect on me. I am starting on Monday.

My DD is a vegan who is allergic to soya. Oat milk, almond milk, hazelnut milk in tea, or on cereal. Coconut or almond based yoghurts, Koko brand is quite good, and there are various vegan dark chocolate brands. Hotel chocolat do nutmilk chocolate batons and various other vegan options as well.

I've been dairy free for around 10 months now as my little boy has cmpa and I'm still breastfeeding.
Oatly barista is definitely the best alternative and I actually like it so much that I will keep drinking it even after I've started having dairy again!
Margerine replaced butter - this didn't bother me so much
Lots of dark chocolate has no dairy, just be sure to check the label first to make sure. Again, I got used to it as I wasn't a fan before. I would eat some dark chocolate with a glass of oatly barista. But lindt also have three types of vegan chocolate made with oat milk now which are amazing.
Vegan type Philadelphia's are good enough too.
There is no cheese replacement I'm afraid to say. They are all awful. Cheese was the hardest thing for me to give up.
Supermarkets "free from" range have lots of treats like cakes and chocolate that are dairy free too.
Pizza I've been making myself. I buy the base and just make up a pizza without cheese adding things like vegan sour cream or vegan cream cheese and cover it in vegetables and salami/chicken. It tastes great.

A useful group, if you can ignore the posts about people worrying whether the vitamin D came from sheep wool or not

www.facebook.com/groups/accidentallyveganuk/?ref=share

I'm all for trying things to see what suits you, but I can't find a single credible (scientific) study that supports any of these dietary changes being truly helpful. Instead they read like a wish list from any paleo-fan, from people who fervently want to believe in magical good and bad foods.

Anyway, Oatley is the nicest of the fake milks in drinks, I dunno about pancakes. OP shouldn't be having any hot chock or tea of course, if following the common (not proven) advice for her condition, that caffeine is bad.

Mayonaise (soy free) & humus might be allowed spreads on... rye? Mayo is possible to make at home. Are you allowed rye crispbread?

@lljkk

I'm all for trying things to see what suits you, but I can't find a single credible (scientific) study that supports any of these dietary changes being truly helpful. Instead they read like a wish list from any paleo-fan, from people who fervently want to believe in magical good and bad foods.

Anyway, Oatley is the nicest of the fake milks in drinks, I dunno about pancakes. OP shouldn't be having any hot chock or tea of course, if following the common (not proven) advice for her condition, that caffeine is bad.

Mayonaise (soy free) & humus might be allowed spreads on... rye? Mayo is possible to make at home. Are you allowed rye crispbread?

Yes that's the same conclusion I came to. I clicked on the thread initially as we regularly have to go Low FODMAP to treat a family member's Crohn's disease flare ups. We are also an entirely gluten free house hold due to 2/3rds of us having coeliac disease. I know all about restrictive diets for health reasons.

It's really restrictive and I would never wish that on anyone unless there was some evidence that it might be beneficial.

I've not been able to find anything that backs that up in this case, other than the dodgy website and other websites that have scraped that website for information.

Alpro unsweetened uht oat milk is my preference in tea. Save the barrista ones for coffee. I get oat milk in bottles from the milk man. Its lovely on cereal and in coffee but again to creamy for tea. It doesn’t taste like porridge and has a less distinctive flavour than the nut milks. By all means try them all though , that is what I did. I found the one I likeed best and then after 2 weeks it was normal and I really liked it. Cows milk tasted odd after that.

With cheese you might find dairy free tastes like feet! If that is the case for you, give it a few months and then try. I like violife mature cheddar and cream cheese and applewood smoked but do use them more sparingly than I did real cheese. Like anything you don’t really miss it after a while.

There is vegan mayo and salad creams out there and they are good.

@lljkk

I'm all for trying things to see what suits you, but I can't find a single credible (scientific) study that supports any of these dietary changes being truly helpful. Instead they read like a wish list from any paleo-fan, from people who fervently want to believe in magical good and bad foods.

Anyway, Oatley is the nicest of the fake milks in drinks, I dunno about pancakes. OP shouldn't be having any hot chock or tea of course, if following the common (not proven) advice for her condition, that caffeine is bad.

Mayonaise (soy free) & humus might be allowed spreads on... rye? Mayo is possible to make at home. Are you allowed rye crispbread?

After speaking to my gp, friends who at least 3 are nurses and speaking to people who have the condition they said cutting out dairy was helpful and eased some of the symptoms. My gp also said Tey it for a month and see. I have checked all of my sources and I want to see if it helps. Is there any halm in that. I have 2 hot choc a week and rarely drink tea but it is always decaff

Since yours is a customised programme, I'm curious what it will look like compared to a total omnivore diet. Where do you think most your calories will come from.

No wheat, gluten, milk or soy, I gather.
Only small amounts caffeine (whatever you get in hot chock)

What about booze, maize, white sugar, added salt, mango, sesame?

@lljkk

Since yours is a customised programme, I'm curious what it will look like compared to a total omnivore diet. Where do you think most your calories will come from.

No wheat, gluten, milk or soy, I gather.
Only small amounts caffeine (whatever you get in hot chock)

What about booze, maize, white sugar, added salt, mango, sesame?

Booze. I don't drink Maize I have gluten free cereal if I want it I very rarely eat breakfast and prefer toast which I have with carb free bread I don't eat alot of white sugar. Everthing that has sugar in I make myself so. I can limit the sugar and use xytol. Mango I ready eat Sesame I don't like