A bin parking drama

[Mumofsend]

Have included diagram. House 1 are not included in bin-gate

House 2 for several years have been putting their bins on House 3's drive way. House 3 with the previous resident would keep their bin literally mm from the front door. House 3 = newest resident and now have a second black bin. Since moving in House 3 have been wanting to keep their bins on their driveways.

House 4 usually keep their bins by the alleyway and not on the drive.

House 3 started putting their bins on their driveway so House 2 have started putting theirs on House 4's driveway.

House 3 keeps returning to House 4 having placed all the bins on their driveway. House 3 got confronted by House 4 and pointed out they are House 2's bins so it is perhaps one to take up with them.

House 4 and House 2 have both taken up issue with House 3 about how it has always worked until they arrived and that it was fine when the previous resident kept her bin by the front door. Now House 3 has 2 black bins they won't fit regardless, plus it is fairly grim to have the bin that close to the front door everytime going in and out. House 3 also has an autistic child who has a tendancy to lick bins. House 3 just wants to use their own driveway to put their own bins on.

Is House 3 being unreasonable and should just suck up the situation to avoid messing up the status quo? Should this should be an issue between House 4 and House 2?

simple message to house 2: keep your fucking bins on your own fucking driveway you absolute lunatics

have they told you why they 'can't'?

So is House 2's justification nothing more than that they succeeded in bullying the previous House 3 into this before and don't understand why you won't be bullied, OP?

I blame her up at No. 52, always been a troublemaker

House 3 needs strategically placed bollards to stop the CFs at #2 using their driveway as bin storage!

Yes, your neighbours are crazy. I would put your foot down hard. I don’t think you can appease people like this and benefit.

Tell 2 they will need to use their own drive or keep their bins outside their own front door and stick to it every time it comes up. Don’t entertain discussing other options. Don’t indulge them in a discussion about what previous owners of 3 did, you are not them. Don’t justify why you can’t do things the way they like. If 4 move the bins onto your drive move them back (tell 4 to take it up with 2 if they complain to you, you have as much right to your drive as they do to theirs). If 2 put them there take them to 2’s drive, or take them for a long walk and report them abandoned to the council.

House 2 is a cunt yes

This alleyway that house 4 keep their bins in. Could house 2 also put theirs there?

Each time I found somebody else's bins on my property they would find them increasingly further out into the road......

Also - if they think you should keep your bins by your door, why can't they?

Not the point but can you call it a drive if it’s not actually attached to your house? (Or is it a parking space?)

Wtf. House three tells everyone else that they don’t give a shiny shit what everyone else does with their bins as long as it doesn’t encroach on their property.

If it does it will be returned to their own drive way each and every time. If they persist they’ll be dragged to the end of the effing road.

Have you asked House 2 tenant why they keep putting their bins on other people’s driveway?

If someone was putting their bins on my drive, I’d probably dump the bins in the middle of the road every time, further and further away from the house, until they get the message.

Whilst House 4 owners ABU, you are not going to resolve this issue by fighting with them. The real CFs are House 2. They need to keep their bins on their property. I think you have to fight back firmly.

1. Notes to Houses 2 and 4: please do not place your’s or anyone else’s property on my land.

They will ignore this but it’s a clear starting point.

1. Every time you find one of House 2’s bins on your land, move it somewhere inconvenient. I’d start with their front doorstep so it blocks their exit. Maybe lie on its side, balanced on a step. Or lean it on their door so it spills when they leave the house. Consider taking it for a drive and leaving it a few streets away.

1. If they continue, tell them in writing that you will take ownership of any property left on your land without permission.

Then paint your house number on it, and have extra bins. Deny all knowledge that it was originally theirs. Alternatively ring the council and tell them to take away the extra bins (the CF’s), or drop it off at the depot. Deny all knowledge of their bins once gone.

YABU for not saying you who you are in the first post, putting two versions of every house on the diagram, and including poor innocent House 1. I suggest dropping a Creme Egg round to House 1.

I'm so thick I can't even follow this.

OP just state with no emotion that what the previous people did really isn't relevant to you and in any case you don't have space by your door for two bins so from now on you won't be having other people's bins in your driveway.

What reason do House 2 have for not keeping their bins on their driveway?

@womaninatightspot

Personally if they started putting bins on my drive I'd start filling them. If they have a second black bin (general waste? we can have an extra one if a larger family or medical needs) I assume they have more rubbish than most.

Or start moving them back putting them exactly in the middle of entrance of no 2 driveway possibly after I'd lobbed a bag of rubbish in there.

this obvs that was their kind intention otherwise they wouldn't have left them on your (?) drive? :)

I don't understand why the driveways aren't attached to the houses?
Either way, you all keep your bins on your own drive or outside your own house.

@l2b2

What reason do House 2 have for not keeping their bins on their driveway?

It seems to be simply that they've managed to get away with dumping them on House 3 before and don't see why that shouldn't continue.

@Disfordarkchocolate

Everyone apart from house 3 need to pack it in and keep their bins on the own property.

Yes.

And that's Numberwang!

Very good second diagram. House 2 are bastards.

Wouldn't it be marvellous if there was a central Bin Area for rubbish, recycling, glass etc. just like they have in Spain and France for example.

No one has an individual set of bins, you bring your bits to the communal rubbish/recycle area.

I would not tolerate having another houshold's bins on my property. This is the daftest land grab I've ever heard of!

Low fence posts and chain or kerbstones along the boundary between drives 3 and 4? Makes it harder for house 4 to push the bins onto your drive, especially if you can park your car and bins to block the end of it.

But before that, I think I might try a last polite request to house 4 along the lines of "I can understand that you don't want their bins on your drive, but please could you move them to their drive or door, rather than my drive; it's not my fault they're in the wrong place, and sometimes I can't get my car onto the drive."

And this idea that "it works if you keep your bins by your front door" - well then it will also work if house 2 keeps theirs by their front door.

It really doesn't matter how long people have been there.
"It doesn't work for us" and "No" is a complete sentence - repeat as many times as necessary.

Also why can't 2 just keep their bins on their drive way??? You must come and tell us this OP.

But WHY do house 2 not have their bin on their property? What reason are they giving? Do they not have space?

Just let them leave the bins on your driveway for a few days, lull them into a false sense of security. Then ring the council explain that you have somehow acquired two extra bins and would they be so good as to come and remove them so they can be used for other residents elsewhere.