AIBU to go out for a walk when I'm supposed to be self isolating

[whatisforteamum]

Last week we discovered someone in my household has coronavirus.
Dd is staying downstairs as she was here for one night that became 10 days.!
Apart from the usual financial hit it is a small house.
Dh has been his usual moody self and dd has been quite hostile too.
Today we were getting along with some sorting out of old school bits and memorabilia when dd started swearing at me.
I have zero tolerance for this and told her so.Then dh started on about I have a small photo of my late df in the living room while he doesn't have any of his parents.Got a bit nasty and I said I would remove it.
Understandably I'm upset trapped in my room.
It's day 8 of isolation .I live near fields I can walk in avoiding people.
I'm double jabbed with a negative lateral flow test which I've done daily.
Surely I can go for a quick walk.?

Can you not claim the £500 self isolation payment?

I'm not on benefits, so I'd only be able to apply for the discretionary scheme, and most people who apply for that are rejected
www.newstatesman.com/politics/2021/07/two-thirds-applications-self-isolation-payments-low-income-workers-are-denied

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55727196.amp

The £500 is less than minimum wage. It wouldn't cover my costs - having to refund pre-booked customers could easily be £2500, plus loss of income from and hoc customers, having to throw out perishable stock, business overheads, domestic rent, utilities, food, other life expenses - and to top it all off you're not meant to walk the dog so I'd have to pay out for that at a cost of £12/day (£14 on weekends). He's a rescue with behaviour issues so can't just be handed to a well meaning volunteer, it needs to be an insured professional.

I'm self employed, so I don't get any form of sick pay - not even SSP.

Being one of the 3 million people who were excluded from claiming both SEISS and furlough (and UC too, in my case) despite losing all my pre-booked customers in March 2020 and still not being able to operate normally, I have absolutely no faith that the government would cough up even the inadequate £500.

I'm still trying to catch up with my uncompensated losses from successive lockdowns, and won't be back to normal until at least next spring.

I don’t know anyone who hasn’t fully self isolated when they needed to, and I know a few who have needed to, some more than once, so how can you say most people don’t?

You don't know anyone who has told you they haven't self isolated. They've probably kept quiet for fear of being reported to the authorities.

Many people (including me) aren't getting tested for fear of being told to self isolate
www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/people-england-office-for-national-statistics-parliament-government-b948563.html

And those that should self isolate? Under half actually do it properly (if you only read one of the links I've posted, read this one)
blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2021/04/05/why-contrasting-figures-on-adherence-to-self-isolation-show-that-support-to-self-isolate-is-even-more-important-than-we-previously-realised/

I'm double jabbed, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I'm just poor and pissed off that I was denied COVID support for the sole reason that I went self employed in May 2019 (and didn't have a crystal ball that told me a sodding pandemic was coming).

Deathbywalkies I’m so sorry to hear how much you have been let down.

FWIW, I don’t think you’re at all unreasonable.

@VanGoSunflowers

Deathbywalkies I’m so sorry to hear how much you have been let down.

FWIW, I don’t think you’re at all unreasonable.

Thank you

@DeathByWalkies yes many self employed people have been shafted by these schemes. I do know someone who is SE and has claimed the discretionary payment twice through the hardship route, but it does depend on your LA. She also went SE in August 2019 and has really struggled, despite having a DP on a good wage. They also bought their first house and moved in just before the first lockdown.

The headlines promise so much, but the devil is in the detail.

SE can claim ESA if they have enough NI contributions, but it’s a pittance.

God what a lot of compliant robots we have become. I genuinely thought I'd opened a zombie thread from some the responses - are we really doing the 'STAY THE FUCK AT HOME!' chant still?

People have completely lost their ability to risk-assess, the government doesn't follow their own rules (presumably because they know they're nonsense) so I'm unsure why everyone else is adamant to, especially in the scenario the OP describes. Fucking madness.

OP, I hope you went on your walk and I hope the photo of your DF is still there in your living room. Tell him to sort his own pics of his loved ones if it bothers him that much.

Deathbywalkies I feel for you.we will only get SSP so bugger all.
The 500 pounds is for people on benefits.
I don't agrèe with working however I can see how people have to.
Reading all these replies I didn't go for a walk.Ive stuck religiously to the rules but even I can't see the harm of a walk in a green space.

SusieBob

so you think you only find people in "urbanised" areas? Have you gone outside at all?

Probably not, or you wouldn't make a comment so embarrassing.

eighty four have you ever actually gone to the countryside? I can walk in 4 different directions from my front door and be in open countryside in less than 3 minutes.. Not a crowded riverside path or popular beauty spot, just farmers fields with edges you can walk on. In the unlikely event someone else was about we'd see each other in more than enough time to give a wide berth.. Most countryside is like that.. Ie the 90% of the UK that isn't built up.

The £500 isn’t just for people on benefit, but you have to be on a very low income. The Welsh scheme is far more generous.

Also agree with @HugeAckmansWife you can walk for miles in the country and see nobody, it can be quite unnerving if you aren’t used of it.

I don’t know why posters feel the need to comment on what others have said, be rude about it and incorrect to boot! It’s so pathetic. Everyone is allowed an opinion.

Reading all these replies I didn't go for a walk.Ive stuck religiously to the rules but even I can't see the harm of a walk in a green space

So why didn’t you go, @whatisforteamum?

Partly because venting on here helps and sometimes we need to be told were being selfish.
Stuck in a small place with others is my idea of hell I don't socialise or like being hemmed it especially with inconsiderate or rude people .
If push really comes to shove today I'm out of here.

@eightyfourandahalf

SusieBob

so you think you only find people in "urbanised" areas? Have you gone outside at all?

Probably not, or you wouldn't make a comment so embarrassing.

Doubling down on your stupid comment?

The point being, of course, that at any one time most of the UK is empty fields, but sure just continue to look stupid. It's funny.

@whatisforteamum

Partly because venting on here helps and sometimes we need to be told were being selfish. Stuck in a small place with others is my idea of hell I don't socialise or like being hemmed it especially with inconsiderate or rude people . If push really comes to shove today I'm out of here.

Just go.

If you can keep away from people the risk is exactly zero. Even if you do walk past someone you are not going to pass on an infection you most likely do not have. To transmit outside you have to literally be breathing into someone's face for an extended amount of time.

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