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Nine years for starving a baby to death

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PropertyFlipper · 06/08/2021 15:07

I’m struggling to see the justice here. This sorry specimen will be out in five years no doubt. Devastating.
Teen mother, 19, bursts into tears as she is jailed for nine years

OP posts:
GreatAuntEmily · 06/08/2021 19:52

People have voted, time and again, for cuts to local authorities over the last decade. And then they cry crocodile tears and express outrage
Imv people don't vote for cuts. We have no opposition at the moment so no alternative exists. I vote for the best option for women's rights but I'd happily vote for women's rights and tax rises if some party proposed tHat.

Mustreadabook · 06/08/2021 19:57

@hehehhehe

No one - mother or father - need be involved with a child theyve created if they dont want to

I disagree. Men shouldn't get to choose no involvement if their child is with the mother. If this child's father had stepped forward and taken responsibility this single mother might have managed better and a tragedy averted.

But to look at it another way, it would have been better if both father and mother said they were not able to look after this baby and she could have been adopted at birth. Trying to make a father who doesn't want a baby look after the child is surely going to end up with more neglect cases not less.
rookiemere · 06/08/2021 20:01

Agreed @Mustreadabook , it's absolutely tragic what happens and it's so hard to accept when there are many childless couples desperate for a child to adopt. Why was she allowed to continue to look after her baby when she'd already abandoned the child 11 times ?

RubyFowler · 06/08/2021 20:02

@Parkingt111

I am really confused that if she left her child for 5 days what did she think would happen?
She'd left her alone 11 other times, and I suppose those times someone must have noticed or suspected, and intervened. Maybe she thought someone would do so again?
lllllllllll · 06/08/2021 20:03

We need to stop voting in the tories.

@RubyFowler that’s all very well, but Baby P happened under a Labour government. How do you explain that? I don’t have confidence in any political party to fix this. It just keeps on happening.

the80sweregreat · 06/08/2021 20:04

Nobody '. Noticed ' because it's clear nobody really cared about this poor child.
She had left her six times before yet she was still able to keep her. It beggars belief really.

ohdelay · 06/08/2021 20:04

Sometimes people are just shit. There's no point looking for people who should have stopped her from leaving her daughter to starve to death. She left her daughter to starve to death so she could party. That's all. Not a fit parent or human. Nine years is pathetic

the80sweregreat · 06/08/2021 20:05

11 times before , not six
Once should have been enough to have saved that poor child's life.

ohdelay · 06/08/2021 20:06

Same with Kaylee-Jade's mum, another shit human. Shit humans have kids too.

Rhannion · 06/08/2021 20:08

@ohdelay

Sometimes people are just shit. There's no point looking for people who should have stopped her from leaving her daughter to starve to death. She left her daughter to starve to death so she could party. That's all. Not a fit parent or human. Nine years is pathetic
Yes some people, male and female, are shit, cruel and vile. People on here need to stop making excuses because she was a young woman. That poor wee baby
Panickingpavlova · 06/08/2021 20:08

We need to stop looking at anything through political glasses

Wasn't it the Labour Lambeth Council that's just been hauled over the coals due to years of horrific child abuse of children in care abandoned to a nest of paedophile whilst labour council member zealots where too busy fighting tories??

Staffy1 · 06/08/2021 20:10

@CandlesBlanketsandTea

It's almost unbelievable that this happened. I'm surprised none of her neighbours heard the baby crying. This is truly horrendous and it appears it wasn't the first time. God that poor baby.
That poor baby probably cried a lot on a daily basis with such an irresponsible parent, so they might not have thought anything was different to usual.
BeenAsFarAsMercyAndGrand · 06/08/2021 20:13

@Panickingpavlova

We need to stop looking at anything through political glasses

Wasn't it the Labour Lambeth Council that's just been hauled over the coals due to years of horrific child abuse of children in care abandoned to a nest of paedophile whilst labour council member zealots where too busy fighting tories??

All councils, Tory and Labour, have had their funding absolutely slashed by the Tories since 2010. Being a Labour council doesn't make them magically exempt from the lack of funding.
HarrisMcCoo · 06/08/2021 20:13

@User57327259

If the mother was in care the question should then be what did she learn in care? Was she abandoned for days or left without food. It looks like she reached a certain and was sent out into the world with little idea of how to handle life
Please don't go down this route. You could argue the same for sick f*cks like Robert Black... that's a very slippery slope.
CloseYourEyesAndSee · 06/08/2021 20:14

@Itstheprinciple

I can't understand what supported housing is? Surely there must be someone working there who noticed they hadn't seen the mother for a while and done a bit of checking up? Or I'd assume a member of staff routinely checked on the tenants in supported housing, even just a knock on the door each day to say hi and check everything is OK. Where is the 'support'?
This one is basically a shared house for mums and children. They have keywork sessions every week or so to look at life skills but it's very low support. A step before getting your own flat.
HarrisMcCoo · 06/08/2021 20:14

@ohdelay

Sometimes people are just shit. There's no point looking for people who should have stopped her from leaving her daughter to starve to death. She left her daughter to starve to death so she could party. That's all. Not a fit parent or human. Nine years is pathetic
Exactly.
mathanxiety · 06/08/2021 20:15

Wrt crystal balls and what social workers can or cannot predict, surely a record of being 'missing' since age 14 and a stint in care followed by motherhood at a young age would result in flagging? Girls don't hit the streets in their early teen years unless there are serious problems in their lives.

the80sweregreat · 06/08/2021 20:15

Voting Labour wouldn't have saved this child : I say that as someone who loaths the tories and their policies.
She was let down by people who clearly kept giving her ' second chances' to redeem herself when it's clear she didn't give a shit about her child. I'm sure ' lessons will be learned' until the next time it happens :( and it will do I'm sure :(
All I can think about is the poor child.
The child should have taken away from her the first time she left her alone.

Utterly heartbreaking.
RIP Asiah.

Porcupineintherough · 06/08/2021 20:19

Whether she had previously left her little girl 6 times or 11 times makes no difference. Child should have been removed after the second time.

I'd have had more sympathy for this woman if she'd been forced to keep her baby. But the truth is, she wasnt. At any point she could have said "nope, not doing this".
She could have left her child with someone, she could have called someone and told them she'd left the child alonr. She didnt.
It's hugely offensive to young people with mh issues,or a history of sa, or who are care leavers to suggest this women couldn't be expected to be a better human being or mother than this.

Chamonixshoopshoop · 06/08/2021 20:20

6 days of partying and she was selling concert tickets on the day of her daughter's death, just weeks after her death she was trying to become a model. At 18 you know not to starve another human to death.

CloseYourEyesAndSee · 06/08/2021 20:20

@lllllllllll

We need to stop voting in the tories.

@RubyFowler that’s all very well, but Baby P happened under a Labour government. How do you explain that? I don’t have confidence in any political party to fix this. It just keeps on happening.

People will always kill babies. Even in the most well resourced system in the world people will still find ways to kill babies. You can't prevent 100% of child deaths. However you can properly fund services to make it less likely. The tories have decimated public funding of social services. One of the first things they did was cut funding for social work training. Froze pay increases and removed all funding for tertiary support services meaning social workers have to try to do everything. People don't want to be social workers under this government, or they can't afford to be.
gingganggooleywotsit · 06/08/2021 20:22

I thought the same op. I was absolutely staggered by the sentencing. 9 years is nothing for the agony that poor child must have been in when she died. Wicked woman.

Susannahmoody · 06/08/2021 20:23

Did her friends not ask her where her child was? Whilst she was partying? No-one said, who's your little one with??

That poor mite Flowers

CharlotteRose90 · 06/08/2021 20:23

She left that tiny baby time and time again not just once. She deserves the 9 years and more. Some people shouldn’t be parents.

the80sweregreat · 06/08/2021 20:24

I hope she gets a fucking hard time of it in prison. She probably won't though :(
She'll be out in five and have more children I bet. :(