To think some are confusing 'calling out' with just disagreeing with someone?

[LordOfTheThings]

All this 'calling out' all over the bloody place.

A friend posted something innocuous (and in a pretty light-hearted way) on their social media yesterday. One of their friends disagreed with them to which my friend responded with a 'ah well we can agree to disagree' kind of post. The friend replied with a 'like most people you just don't like being called out when you're wrong' etc.

Now, not to be confused with telling someone that they're an arsehole (or even just politely explaining something to them) for saying something racist/sexist/any kind of ist really, surely were not at a stage that you can't have an opinion, in this case about a television programme, without this ridiculous 'calling out' nonsense? It seems that every so often there's a new 'phrase' that eventually starts being used in a completely different way from how it started off that makes sense i.e. virtue signalling etc?

Am I the only one who just finds this so tiresome and that people can fuck off with their 'calling out' of the most ludicrous things?

YANBU 💯 with a cherry on top

The problem is people can't just disagree or even debate anymore. Its all about shutting the conversation down with "you're wrong and that's that", possibly with some current buzz words like woke or bigot thrown in for good measure.

I just hate the 'calling out' phrase full stop. Is it an American thing? Our language seems to be becoming more & more Americanised lately.

@Sparklfairy

The problem is people can't just disagree or even debate anymore. Its all about shutting the conversation down with "you're wrong and that's that", possibly with some current buzz words like woke or bigot thrown in for good measure.

Spot on!

The world is just an echo chamber now. People adopt the latest woke causes no matter what they are and shout down anyone who doesn't agree.

No room for debate, no critical thought. It's annoying.

I loathe calling out as a phrase. And it seems we have forgotten what it used to be called. Pulling someone up?

Everything is so agressive. It's this or this. One against the other with no critical thinking.

I hate' cancelled' too. I mean, who do people think they are? I can't stand some people but I'm a big girl, I can cope with hearing their drivel and just thinking they're an idiot. I don't need to cancel anyone.

I think it's all related to the cancel culture, safe space thing too.. If someone holds a different view they are not only wrong, they are offensive / excluding / inciting hate / discrimating etc. The idea that academics are disinvited from addressing a university lecture or debate chamber because they might say something that not everyone agrees with or is a part of is v worrying.

No YANBU. I assume being ‘called out’ originates with being called to the front of the class for punishment, so it’s only appropriate if there’s a clear rule breach, and a British equivalent would be ‘pulled up’.

It’s a horrible expression.

It sounds so aggressive and lairy (an expression from where I come from, it means ill tempered, foul mouthed, aggressive, and with no class).

I take it to come from calling someone outside, for a fight.

There's no debate anymore, only group think.

I can cope with hearing their drivel and just thinking they're an idiot. I don't need to cancel anyone.

Of I could like this a million times over I would. Gone are the days you could listen to someone and think 'ah, this person is a knob', roll your eyes and then go on with your day without another thought. And it's not about not challenging people saying awful things, it's about challenging people saying just about anything for no reason.

It's happening with increasing frequency on this forum too.

and then there is the aggressive - 'educate yourself'

‘Calling out’ is the new ‘telling it like it is’

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Anyone who uses either is an arsehole and using it to justify arsehole behaviour.

I hate the assumption of moral authority by people who use it.

@LordOfTheThings

It's happening with increasing frequency on this forum too.

Yes indeed, I've seen various threads where somebody hasn't agreed with something, not been offensive in their reply but gets called nasty/upright/viper etc just because they don't agree

“Calling out” or “reaching out” make my teeth itch. You disagree with someone’s views or you contact someone. We don’t live in a soap opera.

*uptight

YANBU
But thankfully (hopefully) it seems to be replacing 'Haters', as a word used to describe people who simply disagree and challenge someone on their opinion.

Haters gonna hate = I can't cope with being told I might be wrong in someone else's opinion.

YANBU!!! I loathe the phrase as do I loathe the phrase ‘double-down!’

@Clydesider

I just hate the 'calling out' phrase full stop. Is it an American thing? Our language seems to be becoming more & more Americanised lately.

I think it was at least originally an Alcoholics Anonymous thing where people are expected to say 'You're talking bollocks/you're lying/poor me, poor me, pour me a drink' in groups. Or something to do with group therapy sessions as a whole.

Somewhere along the line, this got confused with publicly confronting or berating people as though it's always a good thing to do or be when the people most likely to use the phrase here at least, are the 'I say it as I see it/call a spade a spade/I tell it like it is/can't say anything these days/political correctness gone mad' ones who are more interested in being an arse to others to make them feel good.

People can have different opinions and still be friends at the end of it. These days people have to prove they are right and it's exhausting.

This is old people talk.
Call me out. :)

It seems that people cannot simply disagree without being expected to become sworn enemies in a 'you did me wrong' kind of way. My friends and I don't agree on everything, far from it.

maybe you're right @Franklyfrost, I don't know. I would like to think that my DCs will be able to have reasonable conversations/disagreements with people without being called out or cancelled but who knows? I'm quite glad I'm not in my teens anymore, every little thing is a minefield.