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To not tip the hairdresser?

301 replies

sunnygemini · 30/07/2021 20:05

I had a good wash, cut and blow dry today, a lot of length off so almost a restyle. The hairdresser got it just right and took almost double the amount of time for the appointment (time not an issue for me).
It cost £55 which is more than I usually pay but I needed to get it booked in so was ok with this.
I've come away wondering if I should have tipped as it took the extra time and the hairdresser seemed to put in the effort to get it just right but I felt a bit awkward, how much do people tip? Do you tip cash separately if you pay by card? Is it expected not to tip when its that price?

I know there are much better things to worry over but I want to go back to the same place and don't want to feel awkward next time!

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Vanilla1Cookies · 31/07/2021 07:56

@Dreamstate

Wtaf people tip their hairdresser. Wow people have money to throw away then!

Hairdressers charge what they do for a cut etc. Your already paying them a price they have set that they are early with. Shy would you hand over more money.

One day you might find yourself in a situation where you have to watch every penny, what then...

There's is a reason some people stay rich because they don't just hand over money willy nilly.

Tipping a hairdresser isn’t exactly a new thing. I remember my mum doing it when I was a child.
FrankButchersDickieBow · 31/07/2021 08:21

@User56439876

Tipping used to be a thing before NMW, now everyone should get this so no need to tip hairdresser anymore than you would tip the cashier in a supermarket
What about the apprentices who wash your hair?

I always tip cos I love my hairdresser. All the products she uses and the fact I might be there for hours.

I always give a couple of quid for the apprentice and whatever it is to round it up to a tenner.

User56439876 · 31/07/2021 08:22

I haven't tipped for years but used to back in the 1970s and 80s iirl as it was seen as part of their wages as there was no NMW then

User56439876 · 31/07/2021 08:24

What about the apprentices who wash your hair? . I never have my hair washed just a spray and trim, apprentice wage is what it is and the same as other places that don't get tips.

Imnothereforthedrama · 31/07/2021 08:26

Hairdressers are not in minimum wage where do you get that from ? Maybe training but mine certainly isn’t . I always tip a couple of £ same with my nails too .

User56439876 · 31/07/2021 08:32

@Imnothereforthedrama

Hairdressers are not in minimum wage where do you get that from ? Maybe training but mine certainly isn’t . I always tip a couple of £ same with my nails too .
NMW just means there is a lowest pay that they could get, not that they are on it, similar to all other jobs, I should hope they are not on NMW as it is not very much for something you have trained for.
Bellend101 · 31/07/2021 08:33

I very rarely have my hair cut (say every 3-4 years) and I never tip. I do tip DS' barber. The prices for women's haircuts are bloody extortionate, they can find their tip in the cost.

Wantingtogetitright · 31/07/2021 08:39

So funny to read people stuck in an actual time warp on here!

Imnothereforthedrama · 31/07/2021 08:47

@User56439876 what was your point in tagging me in a post? I’m fully aware of minimum wage I’m old enough to remember being be on wage lower than that before it was set . My dd is in nmw I just passed comment as everyone did my comment had nothing to do with what you said .

User56439876 · 31/07/2021 08:54

Sorry I tagged you, Imnothereforthedrama but you did ask where I got it from, I never know if people tag me as I haven't got the @ function switched on so it doesn't bother me as I rarely see the tags anyway so probably tag others when no need.

19lottie82 · 31/07/2021 11:41

but it is terrible manners.

@PolkadotSkies as someone who prides myself on my manners, has worked in the service industry, trust me, it isn’t 😂

RosesAndHellebores · 31/07/2021 13:12

Really shocked at the responses of nurses here. People can't chose their nurse and whether to return to the same one they have found kind and good. As far as I am aware hairdressers don't get: sick pay, enhanced mat leave, have very few employment rights, occupational oe sion, etc., and generally have to pay either to rent a chair or for their equipment, rent, utilities, etc. I am sure all of those costs come out of the £80k

Dreamstate · 31/07/2021 13:34

@RosesAndHellebores

Really shocked at the responses of nurses here. People can't chose their nurse and whether to return to the same one they have found kind and good. As far as I am aware hairdressers don't get: sick pay, enhanced mat leave, have very few employment rights, occupational oe sion, etc., and generally have to pay either to rent a chair or for their equipment, rent, utilities, etc. I am sure all of those costs come out of the £80k
Just like any other self employed person then.

End of the day you want to (imo) throw your money away so be it. But that doesn't make those of us who don't, shameful people, lacking manners etc.

People should charge for services they believe is the right amount and thats that. Same with restaurants instead of chcuking on 12.5% gratuity, just price your meals and drinks accordingly.

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 31/07/2021 13:36

@RosesAndHellebores

Really shocked at the responses of nurses here. People can't chose their nurse and whether to return to the same one they have found kind and good. As far as I am aware hairdressers don't get: sick pay, enhanced mat leave, have very few employment rights, occupational oe sion, etc., and generally have to pay either to rent a chair or for their equipment, rent, utilities, etc. I am sure all of those costs come out of the £80k
So like every other self employed person, do you tip them all?

It’s a job choice at the end of the day so presumably they do it because they want to otherwise they would be in a different profession.

ConsuelaHammock · 31/07/2021 14:02

PolkadotSkies - you must earn a lot if you tip everyone you come into contact with on a daily basis.
Not everyone has a high enough income that they can afford to literally throw money away.
It’s not bad manners to keep your money for your own family.

ConsuelaHammock · 31/07/2021 14:04

My hairdresser drives a top of the range car with a personalised number plate. My car is 13 years old. Why on earth would I give her more money than she asked for? People really are daft!

Inni632 · 31/07/2021 14:07

I never tip. Just pay the price of what I'm getting done. Within that price everything has been calculated already so why give extra

Aprilx · 31/07/2021 14:08

@RosesAndHellebores

Really shocked at the responses of nurses here. People can't chose their nurse and whether to return to the same one they have found kind and good. As far as I am aware hairdressers don't get: sick pay, enhanced mat leave, have very few employment rights, occupational oe sion, etc., and generally have to pay either to rent a chair or for their equipment, rent, utilities, etc. I am sure all of those costs come out of the £80k
Lots of hairdressers are employees, so they would have the same employment rights as any other employee and any enhanced benefits depends on the employer, same as with any employee.

If they are self employed then, no they won’t have the same rights, but neither do any other skilled workers that choose to be self employed. Nobody tips the plumber, electrician or accountant. Just the traditional female occupations, apparently because they don’t deserve to actually earn a proper living and should be reliant upon scraps from customers, somebody actually thought she was being good by giving £1. It is condescending.

Squirrelblanket · 31/07/2021 14:08

I never tip the hairdresser.

episcomama · 31/07/2021 15:55

And there is no evidence that it improves service standards. I'd have to disagree there, @Kokeshi123. One of the wonderful things about living in the US is the service you receive as a customer in a restaurant. When people are working for tips you can tell. By contrast, whenever I return to the UK I'm struck by the difference. Much less friendly, less timely, more of a "I'll get to you when I get to you" attitude. I don't disagree about some of the class issues in tipping, but in my experience it absolutely affects (for the better) the level of service the customer receives.

HidingBehindYetAnotherName · 31/07/2021 16:25

@episcomama
Hmm I think there are too many variables/cultural differences for that to mean much especially in relation to the actual cut.

NotaMary · 31/07/2021 16:37

Last time I had a haircut I gave a £5 tip. However, I am retired so my income has reduced significantly. I’m not sure whether I will continue to tip as much or at all. I can’t help thinking that the hairdresser’s income would be pretty amazing if every client gave her a £5 tip.

MilduraS · 31/07/2021 16:46

My hairdresser costs about £180. I don't tip as it's eye watering enough.

Dreamstate · 31/07/2021 17:23

Lol your still the mig, so the salon gives you a discount which doesn't affect your stylist too much, meanwhile she pockets cash, doesn't declare it or pay tax it on and is better off!

You as a taxpayer end up worse off in the long run because taxes go up to continue to pay for services. You might just tip one person but on a grand scale that adds up to alot of money and alot of taxes not being collected

You contribute to that problem!

So yeah your a mug.

sunshinesky · 31/07/2021 19:10

These threads crack me up. How many of you have actually tried living on minimum wage?

Complaining about the cost of having your hair done as if the full amount is straight in the hairdressers pocket. Have a look how much professional colours and tools like scissors, clippers, dryers, washing machines, products, etc etc all cost. That's before you factor in the extra costs and reduced income from the Covid safety requirements. Mobiles have to pay for a vehicle, salons rent and rates.

Then those of you calculating 5(!!) clients a day tipping £5 when you've just said you don't tip Hmm

A few salon owners earn a good living out of it but most hairdressers just about get by.

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