To not want to go to London?

[MoonlightFancy]

Day trip booked for London for a special occasion this week. I don't want to go with cases rising. Husband and I are double jabbed but I'm still really concerned. Friends say it's fine and we should all go and stop panicking. AIBU to feel so anxious?

I feel the same, I am double jabbed but that wont stop me being at risk. I dont want to be around too many people or travel on public transport yet. Some people are fine with it and carry on doing all the things they enjoy, others feel anxious, neither is right or wrong, it's a personal choice but I wouldn't enjoy myself or relax so would not go.

London has been very quiet. Went twice last week, the main issue is public transport being crowded at peak times.

Depends on what you will be doing whilst there. But honestly unless BoJo amends his plans to lift most things tomorrow you will be at just as much risk at your local supermarket as you will in London.

If you are central zone 1 then you can walk most places faster than you can get there on the tube, so you can reduce risk by staying outside. A lot of places are planning to continue limiting admission numbers so that will also help. And being double jabbed means that even if you do get poorly it is likely that it will be a far more mild version.

Ultimately we cannot keep putting our lives on hold. Whilst more transmissible, the evidence suggests that delta variant is not as harmful. So sooner or later we are going to have to resume normal life activities

I live in London and I won’t use public transport. Leave it for those who have to use it to get to work. Cases are rising rapidly and I’m not happy to risk it yet.

Tell us where you are going and we can give you advice on how busy it is and how to mitigate risk if you like.

It depends where you are travelling within London. If you don't want to use the Underground, look up the bus options which are plenty, and buses are much more frequent than most other cities.

I visited London last week and was also nervous but honestly it was fine. It depends where you are going and what you are doing of course but we walked and used bikes rather than the tube, ate and drank at places with outside seating, wore our masks inside at all times and used sanitiser regularly. There are so many pop up places to eat and drink that you don't need to go anywhere crowded if you'd rather not.
We still have to live and find ways to enjoy ourselves!

My DD has to go for work next week and the week after. She's not yet 18 so hasn't had the vaccine. She'll have to travel on public transport at peak times to get there and is planning to use the tube once there. I'm feeling worried about her as she has enough other issues going on without Covid. Any advice or reassurance?

I live in London, I'm double jabbed (and to my knowledge have no underlying conditions).

The way I approach it is to risk assess everything I do.

Lunch with a group outside? Fine.
Lunch with a group inside? Only if it's quiet and airy.

Travel on tube off peak? Fine.
Travel on tube on peak? Nah, that's worth a black cab.

Supermarket? Fine, though I'd visit off peak.
Museum? Fine, but I'd leave it if we're busy.

Etc.

I remind myself that people live relatively normal lives in actual warzones, so as long as I make sensible decisions, there's nothing stropping me enjoying my home city.

Note: I'm aware it's a privilege to be able to choose to take a black cab rather than the tube on peak.

YANBU - don't go if you don't think you'll enjoy it. It's about you personally not what anyone else thinks

I was in London on Weds. It was v quiet, but I didn’t use the tube, only buses and walking. It was less crowded than my hometown had been lately.

I don’t think central London is any more of an issue than outside London. It kind of depends what you’re going to be doing.

PS but YANBU for feelings anxious. It is an anxiety inducing situation.

@carcarbinks

My DD has to go for work next week and the week after. She's not yet 18 so hasn't had the vaccine. She'll have to travel on public transport at peak times to get there and is planning to use the tube once there. I'm feeling worried about her as she has enough other issues going on without Covid. Any advice or reassurance?

Can she walk once she gets into London? The weather is nice and London is v walkable.

I work in central London and have been going into my office for the last couple of months. The majority of the city is very quiet still. Museums/galleries all have to be booked so are not busy. The tube can be busy at rush hour, but generally not pre covid levels. Camden was reasonably busy but not packed by any means. Everything else has been about 50-60% of it's usual levels.

We went earlier this month and it was an absolute joy as there were so many fewer people than normal. Doing touristy things was a pleasure and travelling on the tube even at peak rush hour 5-6ish didnt feel bad - there was still lots of space and seating available, everyone was masked and respectful; felt much easier than when I used to live in London five years ago.

@LIZS

London has been very quiet. Went twice last week, the main issue is public transport being crowded at peak times.

This. I was in London on Wednesday. The tubes were quiet - outside peak times - and everyone was masked. I felt just as safe as I do out and about at home.

I live in London and go about as normal, using the tubes and buses to go to hospital appointments, work, restaurants, the theatre. I’m clinically vulnerable too, though am double jabbed. Tubes are much less busy than normal.

I am going on Tuesday and don't have an issue with it, but the I'm in the NW where cases are much higher anyway.

You should do what makes you comfortable OP.

Those of us who live here don’t really have a choice unless we just stay indoors. I take regular precautions (nothing over the top) and, as far as I’m aware, I’ve not had covid. I’m double jabbed now. Last Sunday was DS birthday and I’d booked dinner in Leicester Square, not realising it would be the Euros final and that England would be in it! (Had booked a few weeks in advance). We decided to go anyway and it was fine. Despite the number of people that had descended on the area, we only passed people briefly, the restaurant was more or less empty! Even the tube wasn’t that bad. It’s good to get out and do something.

Don't go if you're worried then and it'll ruin the fun for you. I'd go in a second, would love some time away!

I would actually say the tubes can be a little too quiet, I was on my own in a carriage with a begger at 3pm one day and did not feel safe at all. That was a few months ago though.

I went this week for the first time, loved it, was so nice to go back. Everyone wore masks on the train going in and tube too. Restaurants not very busy, felt fine. Can't wait to go back tbh

With a beggar?! Jeez wtaf?