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School where children must smile all the time, follow whistled commands and never glance out of the window

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 03/07/2021 14:25

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/parents-slam-school-rules-always-24451911

Sounds horrific. I'd home educate a child rather than send them to a place like this. I can't help thinking one of the responses on Twitter I saw may be right - are they trying to drive out children with additional needs who might pull down the GCSE results? My daughter is an adult now but she would have been destroyed by an environment like this. She's very bright but on the autistic spectrum.


Parents have criticised strict new school rules which include "always smiling", never looking out the window and even asking permission to pick up a pen.

Natalie Teece, the newly-appointed headteacher at John Ferneley College in Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire, has drafted the guidelines ahead of the school reopening in September.

The new rules were delivered to parents in an e-booklet, along with three videos explaining the research and the reason behind them.

Ms Teece said that when 11 to 16-year-olds students return to class, they will be expected to "always smile" and learn to respond to a series of whistle commands given by staff.

They also must enter the classroom in single file, "never forget to say Sir or Miss", always sit up straight and must thank their teacher as they leave the classroom after a lesson.

Walking in a group of more than two people and looking out of windows in class are also banned.

Turning around "even if you hear a noise" is forbidden and pupils have to maintain eye contact with the teacher whenever they are talking, the rules say.

Kids have to wait to be told they may pick up a pen or ruler and if a teacher says hello to them they should make sure their reply is "upbeat".

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One rule about lining up said staff will be using whistles to direct kids, with five sounds meaning they must move to their line up area, and one indicating pupils should be silent.

Another about "tracking" the teacher said: "You don't pick up your pen or your ruler, or anything else, until your teacher gives you the signal.

"You never turn around - even if you hear a noise behind you. You don't look out of the window. You don't lose focus."

A rule on sitting up straight said: "You never slouch. Be sitting up straight you are demonstrating physical respect. [ ...] No exceptions. No excuses."

And another said: "You always smile. You are polite and welcoming. When you greet somebody you smile, when a teacher says hello to us in the corridor you reply with an upbeat 'Hello Miss!' or 'Morning Sir!' and you smile."

The guidelines inform students that they are "extremely fortunate to be in a school that is very popular" and must walk around the school only in single file or pairs.
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Radio4ordie · 03/07/2021 14:30

I’m sure they’ll turn into good little cannon fodder for companies to exploit. I don’t know why parents put up with this sort of nonsense honestly.

Birdkin · 03/07/2021 14:30

This sounds positively dystopian

Holothane · 03/07/2021 14:30

Get her to follow the rules a fixed smile all day, this is a prison camp not a school.

MyFloorIsLava · 03/07/2021 14:32

Those rules sound entirely reasonable. If you're running a school for robots.

AnneLovesGilbert · 03/07/2021 14:32

Batshit. What are they trying to do, educate children or mass produce emotionally repressed droids.

Creepy.

SionnachRua · 03/07/2021 14:33

God, who has the time to be policing petty nonsense like this? Can't imagine the staff are thrilled either.

I reckon aggressively following the rules for a few days could crack that principal fairly quick tbh. Imagine following her about with rictus grins on faces, anyone would break easily.

Foxhasbigsocks · 03/07/2021 14:33

Awful. Can’t believe the person who wrote this thinks it’s acceptable.

Imapotato · 03/07/2021 14:33

Good luck with getting 11-16 year olds to always smile!!

I’d love to be a fly on the wall when it all goes to shit!

Bellasblankexpression · 03/07/2021 14:33

This is actually horrifying

Toomanyradishes · 03/07/2021 14:34

Thats hideous, adults arent expected to act like that why should children have to? Imagine going through a traumatic event like losing a parent, returning to school and getting into trouble for not smiling or being upbeat, or a child in an abusive situation at home always having to be cheerful at school

Aroundtheworldin80moves · 03/07/2021 14:36

My DD regularly looks gloomy. She's not unhappy, she's just dealing with all the noise etc of being around 30 other people all the time. Same with eye contact.

Has this person met any kids?

Soubriquet · 03/07/2021 14:36

What a crock of shit

I can see more kids breaking down in tears tbh

pickingdaisies · 03/07/2021 14:36

Are they expected to line up in height order like the Von Trapp family in the sound of music?

selflove · 03/07/2021 14:36

There's that Michaela school in Brent that has similar rules.

AFAIK Brent is a pretty low income area etc, and this school saw incredibly high GCSE results and incredibly low levels of problems. Parents who send their kids there rave about it, and basically say it's the school to send your kids to if you think you have the sort of kid that will end up excluded in a normal school etc, it just completely reforms them and they engage with education and come out of it all so well. I thinkkkk there might even have been a documentary on it?

BrightYellowDaffodil · 03/07/2021 14:37

It sounds horrific. Are they attending a school or a prison camp?

imaginethemdragons · 03/07/2021 14:39

Gilead

ClumpingBambooIsALie · 03/07/2021 14:39

Whoever wrote this… have they met humans before?

selflove · 03/07/2021 14:39

Found a link about the Michaela school which sounds v similar

amp.theguardian.com/education/2016/dec/30/no-excuses-inside-britains-strictest-school

If she's doing something that works, good for her I guess. It's not for every kid, but definitely seems to be good for some

singlehun · 03/07/2021 14:39

Completely un inclusive. The parents need to write to the LA, MP, press, everyone. I would deregister

FlibbertyGiblets · 03/07/2021 14:41

Yes similar to the Michaela school in Brent. It is not an unmitigated disaster there.

topcat2014 · 03/07/2021 14:41

Mind you, the not turning round stuff, I can see the point of.
Similarly the not looking out of the window,

Bellasblankexpression · 03/07/2021 14:41

The idea of children having to smile all the time is disturbing on so many levels.

araiwa · 03/07/2021 14:42

I would guess the school has been an absolute mess, hence the change

Aposterhasnoname · 03/07/2021 14:42

Fuck that shit. There’s not a day goes by when I’m not glad I do t have school aged kids anymore. I’d be banned from every school for miles.

MayIDestroyYou · 03/07/2021 14:42

And another said: "You always smile. You are polite and welcoming. When you greet somebody you smile, when a teacher says hello to us in the corridor you reply with an upbeat 'Hello Miss!' or 'Morning Sir!' and you smile."

Discriminatory and abusive. Who on earth voted for this?

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