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to think the point of gifts is to choose them thoughtfully?

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yesterdaysbread · 01/07/2021 10:19

I have a couple of relatives who always ask for gift ideas for birthdays, Christmas etc. They ask me directly what I would like and they also ask for ideas for my parents and siblings. I've heard one of them say before 'it's best to give me an idea or you'll end up with bits of tat you don't need' - which happens on some occasions, think little trinket-type things that just clutter up your house. They sometimes ask for cash for themselves for presents.

I'm getting married and am being asked by each of them if we have a gift list. We don't have a list as we've been living together for years anyway and more or less have everything we need. We have told them this and they have said, well let us know or else we'll get you a kettle.

AIBU to think that the point of a gift is that you choose it thoughtfully with the recipient in mind? This is how I buy gifts. I think it's more or less pointless to give specific ideas for example, here's a book I've been wanting to read, you can just pay for it for me, or buying someone something because you feel obliged to but without putting any thought into it, i.e. a kettle which of course we have already...for a wedding gift a nice piece of serveware, or a special tablecloth would seem like good and obvious choices to me if there was nothing else indicated...AIBU to think this is too much to expect or should I be sending out links to John Lewis website?

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JellyBabiesSaveLives · 01/07/2021 16:10

The “thoughtfully chosen personal gift” brigade make me feel sad, unloved, and unseen when they demonstrate with their gift that they do not really know me at all.

I’m trying to train everyone in my life to buy me edible gifts. I’ve tried saying I did not want a gift and so far it’s only worked on one person.

Travielkapelka · 01/07/2021 16:23

My parents are the worst gift givers in the world. They never ask what we would like and end up spending a lot of money on something we don’t want and would never use. They’re also extremely wealthy and extremely tight. I would rather they bought nothing!

yesterdaysbread · 01/07/2021 17:57

@ouchmyfeet

YANBU at all OP, I fee exactly the same about gifts. Depending on the recipient I don't always enjoy choosing a gift for someone, but I do think most of the point of a gift is to spend some time thinking about the recipient and what they might like to receive.

People feel so wildly different about gift giving that it is quite hard. My in-laws are obsessed with buying gifts but only those specifically requested and in a certain budget and from specific shops Hmm. I really hate being asked to provide gift ideas for me and my family with these restrictive criteria. Honestly I'd rather they didn't bother buying any of us anything at all if they're not prepared to put any thought into it.

As a considerate gift buyer I do sometimes ask if there's anything specific that would be welcome but always make it clear that I'm happy to use my brain and buy a surprise gift.

On the emotional labour point I find the request for me to think of my own bloody gift and those for my family to be emotional labour. I don't ask for gifts and would prefer never to receive them than to have to choose every bloody gift myself and for it to have to come via Amazon Confused

@ouchmyfeet

Honestly I'd rather they didn't bother buying any of us anything at all if they're not prepared to put any thought into it.

On the emotional labour point I find the request for me to think of my own bloody gift and those for my family to be emotional labour. I don't ask for gifts and would prefer never to receive them than to have to choose every bloody gift myself and for it to have to come via Amazon

EXACTLY THIS thank you Grin

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Backhills · 01/07/2021 18:04

I think people who pride themselves on thoughtful gift buying very rarely get it right.

Yes, it's lovely indeed when they do but mostly, you end up with things you'll never use or things that are almost, but not quite what you'd have chosen.

"Thoughtful" gifts are much more about the giver than the recipient IMO.

sirfredfredgeorge · 01/07/2021 18:24

I don't ask for gifts and would prefer never to receive them than to have to choose every bloody gift myself

It's perfectly reasonable to reply with "no thank you, please don't get me anything" - no emotional labour for you, and it's what you prefer too. Think how much better everyone would be be.

MrsDonnelly · 01/07/2021 18:27

I hate this pressure to choose something thoughtful. People are busy! I consider myself to be generous and will happily buy gifts or give cash. But please, give me a clue. I detest shopping, for myself or anyone else, and the thought of spending my weekend, after working a 50 hour week, browsing round the shops for something that may not be liked is my idea of hell. Tell me what you want and I’ll get it but asking me to give up what little spare time I have to ‘surprise you’ gives me the rage

Merryoldgoat · 01/07/2021 18:34

The problem is that everyone has and idea of a ‘fool proof’ gift and as many people would be turned off as love it.

I like wine, chocolates, edibles, stationery, candles, flowers.

I would be thrilled with those.

Look how many people have said they’d hate those things.

If people are giving a gift they want you to like it. Thoughtful is, IMO, when you go a bit further. Eg. My MIL wanted a travel journal. I found one in her favourite colour in leather and had it engraved with her initials. It’s me saying to DH I’d love a food mixer and him clubbing together with my aunt and PIL to get me a KitchenAid when a normal would’ve been fine.

I think it’s unreasonable to expect thoughtful gifts from a raft of people that you like.

ouchmyfeet · 01/07/2021 18:34

@sirfredfredgeorge

I don't ask for gifts and would prefer never to receive them than to have to choose every bloody gift myself

It's perfectly reasonable to reply with "no thank you, please don't get me anything" - no emotional labour for you, and it's what you prefer too. Think how much better everyone would be be.

I have obviously tried this. It's apparently not an acceptable response
phoenixrosehere · 01/07/2021 18:43

To me, being thoughtful is asking the person what they need/ would like as then they will definitely like and use it. Its nice to buy people things they actually like. It’s not thoughtful to pick something you’d personally like - as others have said, you may think you’re good at picking presents but no one is going to tell you they don’t like your present! I don’t think you’re ‘unreasonable’ though, I can see what you’re saying about then having the emotional burden of thinking of something but if you don’t want to do that then just say there’s nothing in particular you’d like and it’s back over to them!

Agree. Birthdays and Christmases are difficult for us since we don’t live close to any family. What we could think is thoughtful, could be something that they already have or outgrown (when it comes to children and teens) so better and easier for us to ask because at least we know that is what is desired.

ZZTopGuitarSolo · 01/07/2021 18:48

Honestly I'd rather they didn't bother buying any of us anything at all if they're not prepared to put any thought into it.

Well there you go - let them know you'd rather not have anything because it's just too much work for you to let people know what sorts of things you do like.

First world problem solved.

Brefugee · 02/07/2021 08:00

Honestly I'd rather they didn't bother buying any of us anything at all if they're not prepared to put any thought into it.

Gosh you're hard work, OP.
Just say: anything will be lovely and Havre done with it. And anything you don't like can go to a charity shop/landfill.

This applies for everyone complaining that having to tell someone what they might like is too much emotional Labour. Have one standard reply and stick to it. Then live with the consequences Grin

EveryoneIsThere · 02/07/2021 08:25

Honestly I'd rather they didn't bother buying any of us anything at all if they're not prepared to put any thought into it

I think that's really unkind and precious of you OP. I guess you must go through life being 'disappointed' in people. As this thread shows lots of people view present giving differently to you. I certainly do!

ChocOrange1 · 02/07/2021 08:32

For your examples, I would never use a tablecloth and I have a lot of serving dishes and no room for another. However, I also don't love being send a very specific link for an item either.

I think there should be a halfway, e.g. "we would like some new wine glasses" but leave it to the giver to choose a style.

Merryoldgoat · 02/07/2021 10:42

@ChocOrange1

But then you still end up with something you potentially hate but it’s ‘what you asked for?!’

What’s wrong with a link?

One of these sets I’d like. The other I’d hate. Both would be a reasonable purchase if ‘wine glasses’ is all that’s suggested.

to think the point of gifts is to choose them thoughtfully?
to think the point of gifts is to choose them thoughtfully?
ChocOrange1 · 02/07/2021 10:46

True, although if someone is getting you a gift then you would hope they know you well enough to have some idea of what you would like if given a category.

My only issue with a link is that they might as well just buy it themselves so what is the point.

TheKeatingFive · 02/07/2021 10:49

How would that even work if

TheKeatingFive · 02/07/2021 10:50

Sorry

How would that even work if applying it to a big wedding?

You divvy out categories to various people? That sounds like an incredible amount of hassle for everyone.

Oceanbliss · 02/07/2021 11:06

@yesterdaysbread It’s all well and good that you value putting thought into choosing a gift that you think the recipient would like but to look down on people who have different values from you and do things differently from is really poor form.

Merryoldgoat · 02/07/2021 12:00

@ChocOrange1

My DH’s family do lists - I thought it was a bit odd. 16 years in I’ve decided it’s fantastic.

Mine has a few bigger items, a load of little consumable type ones and some experiences. You still get a surprise, the giver still gets to think about it and you still get a surprise.

My current list has:

Wine glasses (!) with a pic of style I like
An electric screwdriver
A certain type of yarn I like that’s expensive
Fat quarters
White picture frames
Facials and massages
Dangly earrings
Scented candles
Wax melts
Fancy bath stuff
Fancy afternoon tea.

It just lives in perpetuity and I update it now and again (eg last birthday I got a drill so swapped for screwdriver)

That’s not practical for a wedding though so surely either gift list or money is the best way to go?

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