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To be sorry we've lost our nice view?

155 replies

Timetochange11 · 25/06/2021 07:44

We have an elevated bit of garden level with our upstairs windows with a lovely view of a field and woods. Yesterday our neighbour put an office type chalet up in the field right in our line of vision, sure we'll get used to it but it looks so out of place in the country.

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KateTheEighth · 25/06/2021 11:43

I'd double check the regs

At our old house we had a shortish garden and a big paddock across a stream. We mowed a bit of our paddock across the stream from our garden (with stripes) to make the garden look longer from the house

Someone reported us and the council told us not to mow it with stripes because that meant it was no longer agricultural land

FijiCavanaugh · 25/06/2021 12:04

@VeganVeal

As Kirsty Alsop says 'if you dont own the land you dont own the view'
Just because you don't own it, doesn't mean people can do whatever they want with it. Laws are there for a reason.
Clymene · 25/06/2021 12:19

It's a change of use - not permitted AND it's not within 20m of the property/bigger than 10 sqm - also not permitted.

I hope the council make her take it down. You can't go putting up sheds willy nilly in AONBs, even if you do have family visiting from an Amber country

Seeline · 25/06/2021 12:22

@LolaSmiles

People are allowed to put temporary dwellings on agricultural land as long as they have the permission of the landowner, so depending on the nature of the structure they might be able to have their summer house under that.

There has been a rise in people converting Shepherd's huts, building summer houses or offices in renovated horse boxes or lorry bases that can technically be moved. I only found out about this on something like George Clarke's amazing spaces.

Not true at all.

Temporary dwellings can rarely be put anywhere without PP. 28 days a year is hte maximum, and even then only in certain circumstances.

Whilst caravans etc are not permanent structures, siting them on land comprises development (change of use of land) and generally requires PP.

Even on agricultural land, there needs to be a case made in agricultural terms for a person to actually be living on the site for PP to be considered.

Tossblanket · 25/06/2021 12:23

It's annoying definitely, people always drone on about not having a right to a view.

It's things like this that helped drive a move to Scotland from the south of England.

Now I own the view.

Timetochange11 · 25/06/2021 12:25

What's worse is that it's angled away from her house and facing ours so we can see in through the full length glass doors! Please don't get a hottub to go in front of it 😯

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HeronLanyon · 25/06/2021 12:25

But no matter who does or doesn’t own the land, the owner isn’t permitted simply to do whatever they want - whether on a busy ugly urban street or particularly and even more so in an AONB (or whs) - the owner can’t just do what they want. There are National planning policies and particularly in AONB protections which apply to anyone wanting to do something on their land.
I used to own property which was in an AONB and world heritage site and all sorts of other protected categories. Every step any of us owning land/property there wanted to take had to comply with requirements - planning, environmental impact assessments, traffic assessments, ancient monument assessments, archaeological and mining surveys, flora and fauna impact, etc etc. Quite right too.

WilsonMilson · 25/06/2021 12:33

I feel your pain. When we moved in there was a field next to our house. We did know there was planning, but did not appreciate how close and imposing the house would be. They started building just before lockdown and now my lovely open view has been completely ruined by a massive house right over my garden fence.

Timetochange11 · 25/06/2021 12:40

Feel for everyone whose garden or view is spoilt. There won't be any countryside to enjoy soon.

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SpringCrocus · 25/06/2021 15:14

So are you going to complain to the planning dept about it?

billy1966 · 25/06/2021 15:21

@Timetochange11

What's worse is that it's angled away from her house and facing ours so we can see in through the full length glass doors! Please don't get a hottub to go in front of it 😯
Of course it is🙄
Ohsugarhoneyicetea · 25/06/2021 15:43

Please report this to planning. It will be anonymous. Cheeky people behaving like this ruin our environment for future generations. A field in an area of outstanding natural beauty need to be left as it is - and is not cheap accommodation for quarantining Americans.

Timetochange11 · 25/06/2021 16:00

I'm going to speak to a couple of neighbours first. Whoever said if it's not got a solid ie concrete floor it can be classed as moveable.

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Seeline · 25/06/2021 16:52

@Timetochange11

I'm going to speak to a couple of neighbours first. Whoever said if it's not got a solid ie concrete floor it can be classed as moveable.
Still needs PP unless it is removed after 28 days.
NettleTea · 25/06/2021 21:19

@LolaSmiles

People are allowed to put temporary dwellings on agricultural land as long as they have the permission of the landowner, so depending on the nature of the structure they might be able to have their summer house under that.

There has been a rise in people converting Shepherd's huts, building summer houses or offices in renovated horse boxes or lorry bases that can technically be moved. I only found out about this on something like George Clarke's amazing spaces.

as someone said, not in an AONB and if they are staying put, then there has to be a reason for it. If they are accommodation type places then they can only be used for 28 days per year, because permitted development allows you to use the land for any reason without permission for that long. Longer than that it becomes a change of use. too many people have tried to do it, so if the council know, the council will crack down.

and as an aside, she has deliberately put it outside her garden because she is pulling a fast one. She could have easily stayed within the law by putting it into her garden. She knows. She is relying on people not wanting to have bad relations to get away with it.

StoneofDestiny · 25/06/2021 22:17

Is there a picture ? (I can't see one)

Scaredycatmoo76 · 26/06/2021 07:10

@Clymene

It's a change of use - not permitted AND it's not within 20m of the property/bigger than 10 sqm - also not permitted.

I hope the council make her take it down. You can't go putting up sheds willy nilly in AONBs, even if you do have family visiting from an Amber country

Has the OP confirmed dimensions or distance as i can’t find any figures!
IntoAir · 26/06/2021 09:03

YABU. “the country” is not there just for your nice view. It’s a workplace.

IntoAir · 26/06/2021 09:05

Feel for everyone whose garden or view is spoilt. There won't be any countryside to enjoy soon.

The irony of this statement! Your house takes up space and intrudes on other people’s “views” in the countryside. You’re not exempt from the “spoiling” of the countryside

Timetochange11 · 26/06/2021 10:11

But I wouldn't deliberately out up a building that might upset my neighbours. My house is a former gamekeepers cottage and been here for 200 years. My neighbours are farmers or work on the land, don't preach to me about how the country works, I was brought up in a dairy farm as was my husband.

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Clymene · 26/06/2021 10:15

@Scaredycatmoo76 - there was a photo in the OP which showed a building that was about the size of a double garage. She also says it's about 100 yards from the house.

Scaredycatmoo76 · 26/06/2021 10:17

Op do you know the actual Dimensions?

ElsieMc · 26/06/2021 10:21

Nearby neighbours have built a newbuild on a former paddock, I had expected it to be built on eventually. But it is this black metal thing that looks like a static caravan in an area where people have been asked to conform to slate roofs, stone facing etc. We passed an old metal shed on a walk last week and my gs piped up that it looked like our neighbour's house. To complete the look they have parked up a huge silver American airstream in a protected area. It is a second home as well.

It does not look directly onto our home but our longstanding neighbours are badly affected and moved around 2 months back. The caravan thing is parked right up to elderly neighbours small cottage garden so it towers over it.

The joke is these people complained my hedge was too high and I actually cut it down for them!

Sadly op, you are not entitled to a view but I would have a word with planning because our neighbours built a summer house which they then had to apply for retrospective planning permission.

Scaredycatmoo76 · 26/06/2021 10:24

* To complete the look they have parked up a huge silver American airstream in a protected area.*

What’s the issue with this? Nothing stopping people parking their vehicles on their property is there? Genuine question

Timetochange11 · 26/06/2021 10:24

@Scaredycatmoo76

Op do you know the actual Dimensions?
No I'd have to go into their field, although I do have right of way through it but a double garage sounds right.
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