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To be sorry we've lost our nice view?

155 replies

Timetochange11 · 25/06/2021 07:44

We have an elevated bit of garden level with our upstairs windows with a lovely view of a field and woods. Yesterday our neighbour put an office type chalet up in the field right in our line of vision, sure we'll get used to it but it looks so out of place in the country.

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netstaller · 25/06/2021 08:55

@NettleTea

you do realise you can report it without giving your name. I certainly would give the planning dept a heads up
This. If it ruins your view and shouldn't be there you should do it.
Timetochange11 · 25/06/2021 08:55

Doginatent, I'm sorry we've got to look at it so yes it bothers me. I don't imagine she did it just to annoy though, more that she probably didn't think about the impact on others.

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IrmaFayLear · 25/06/2021 08:56

I second the observation by a pp that it might be intended for air b&b, or teenage use (if she has any).

My aunt has a structure like that in her garden (with great view) and it is fully booked for summer. It is a shed, albeit poshly done out and with a shower room.

stairgates · 25/06/2021 08:57

I believe if it is on the wooden base, so not directly on the floor similar to the one shown in the picture is, then it is classed as moveable/temporary/caravan rules so allowed unless it is being used as a bedroom so doesnt need any permissions.

Scaredycatmoo · 25/06/2021 08:57

Upstairs window… you’ll get used to it.

Dining room / lounge - would take longer to get used to but you would

I find those types of garden rooms very attractive

Kinsters · 25/06/2021 08:58

I hate how Mumsnet tells you the picture you initially added is gone and then it's still there when you post!

I'd be annoyed if my neighbours did something like this without mentioning it to me (and I really like my neighbours!). I'd give it a while and see if anyone else reports it (and whether you get used to it) and then consider reporting.

Clymene · 25/06/2021 08:58

She might find that the council is less sympathetic than you are

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2280764/Farmer-told-MUST-pull-castle-built-secretly-haystacks-loses-year-planning-row.html

HollowTalk · 25/06/2021 08:59

Isn't that going to hugely affect the value of your house?

HappilyHadesBound · 25/06/2021 09:00

I disagree that shouldn't report it – if you don't report it now and there is a problem later, you may have bigger problems. It would be better to report it now, and let the council decide whether it's okay or not.

My parents didn't complain when someone built the garage (which did have permission) in the wrong place, but it caused them all sorts of headaches later down the line. Had they Reported at the time it would've been dealt with and they wouldn't have been any issues later.

Timetochange11 · 25/06/2021 09:02

Update, my next door neighbour has just text to say her family are arriving from America today for a month to stay! So there we are - it could be accommodation? Can you travel here from America or is that a whole new thread😂😂

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BungleandGeorge · 25/06/2021 09:03

If it’s in their garden and within permitted development you have no cause for complaint. The area of your land that’s at first floor height looking over their land towards the view is probably quite intrusive for them. It’s not up to them to screen something in their own garden. If they’ve built where they shouldn’t have them yes report them

user1493494961 · 25/06/2021 09:03

I would definitely report it when the first guests arrive.

billy1966 · 25/06/2021 09:03

@Timetochange11

Doginatent, I'm sorry we've got to look at it so yes it bothers me. I don't imagine she did it just to annoy though, more that she probably didn't think about the impact on others.
Oh please OP, no one is THAT stupid. Of course she knew, she just doesn't care.

At least report it anonymously.

Clymene · 25/06/2021 09:08

@BungleandGeorge

If it’s in their garden and within permitted development you have no cause for complaint. The area of your land that’s at first floor height looking over their land towards the view is probably quite intrusive for them. It’s not up to them to screen something in their own garden. If they’ve built where they shouldn’t have them yes report them
It's not permitted development. I guess her family are going to isolate in her shed OP!
Timetochange11 · 25/06/2021 09:08

@BungleandGeorge yes you're right, we don't sit up there for that reason, Its just fruit trees.

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Timetochange11 · 25/06/2021 09:09

Yes we think they are too!

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billy1966 · 25/06/2021 09:09

Get plenty of photos of people staying there.
She is a CF.
Of course your loss of your view, replaced by that extremely ugly structure will affect the value of your home.

Timetochange11 · 25/06/2021 09:13

Parish council neighbour is now in his field watching Grin all we need now is an EKL!

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LIZS · 25/06/2021 09:14

It won't meet buildings regs for habitable accommodation and even if pp was granted it would only be for use ancillary to main house. Wait for it to become an Air BnB or Bed in Shed and be retrospectively regularised in a few years then a permanent structure developed. Planning restrictions in the Greenbelt are due to be relaxed shortly.

Didiplanthis · 25/06/2021 09:15

We are in an AONB... one neighbour pissed off the planners somehow and after 'extending' his garden into a field the planners told him he couldn't use a lawnmower on the extended bit he had to graze it with sheep or equivalent 😂....however anything else in the valley they have just waved through on retrospect PP 🤷‍♀️

thesunwillout · 25/06/2021 09:18

Placemarking.

Keep us updated op, especially when the sardines move into the tin!!

Timetochange11 · 25/06/2021 09:21

Lol

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LakieLady · 25/06/2021 09:22

is it simply a summerhouse, or has it got water/electricity? Do you think they are going to AirBnB it, as lots of people do this, under the radar of the council

I live in a national park, but on the edge of a town. The neighbours opposite built one of these in their back garden. It has a shower room and toilet.

They were told that as long as it didn't have cooking facilities, it wouldn't require PP. The letter from the council giving this advice is on their planning portal website.

They rent it out on AirBNB and at the moment it seems to have almost 100% occupancy. It's clear from the listing that there are no cooking facilities, but there is a kettle and a microwave.

It doesn't bother me, as my house is up higher, plus the roof is planted with sedums and stuff so it's not obtrusive, but the people on the far side say it really looms over their garden and has cut out the sun from the bottom of their garden.

All the houses on my side of the road used to have views of the downs through the gaps between the houses opposite. Nearly every house now has a side extension taking up the full width of the plot, so they've lost their views. When people have objected to these being built, they're always told that loss of a view isn't a valid planning objection.

Timetochange11 · 25/06/2021 09:25

I'll probably bump into her dog walking so if she asks me if I like it I'm going to be honest and say no.

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Seeline · 25/06/2021 09:29

It definitely requires PP if not in their garden. If it's in an AONB, it requires PP even if it is in their garden.
The extension of the garden into agricultural land definitely requires PP.
Even if they try to claim it is a mobile home, PP is required for the change of use of land if it's there for more than 28 days a year.

If this is not dealt with now, it will lead to problems in the future. Further structures, neighbours doing similar, Certificates of Lawfulness having to be granted leading to more permanent development in the future.