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To ask the historians among you to explain this even from the tudors to me? ( reformatiin related).

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malificent7 · 21/06/2021 19:45

So from what I gather Henry 8th sought to break from Rome as he wanted to divorce Katherine and Marry Anne Boyelyn. Hence the advent of the Prostestant church. Catholicism was brutally surpressed etc.

However in season 4, episode 9, a protestant lady was tortured and burned as a heretic for her protestant beliefs including the rejection of the holy communion for being the body and blood of Christ. Also some Catholic priests were plotting unsuccessfully to accuse protesrant Katherine Parr of being a heretic.
But I thought Henry wanted a protestant nation? Or could he not make up his mind? Am i missing something as I'm confused!?

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MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 22/06/2021 09:47

Only twats correct other people's spelling/grammar.

A correction that is wrong is uber-twattery.

goddessofmischief · 22/06/2021 13:20

I didn't say she wasn't right. She is. As am I. Two different points have been made.
We're talking about actual names, not general words or grammar. Happy to be an uber twat pointing out how to correctly spell my own name Grin

gwenneh · 22/06/2021 13:30

Your name is spelled a particular way. Primary sources, including various letters written by the Katherine/Catherine/Kateryn/Kathrarina/etc and Anne/Ann queens, show that they themselves spelled their names, and surnames, fluidly. Calling someone out on the spelling of names and surnames when the people who owned those names and surnames spelled them in varying ways is absolutely a dick move.

How you spell your name is irrelevant, unless you're one of the queens in question.

goddessofmischief · 22/06/2021 14:57

Benedict Cumberbatch: Tudor style.

SarahAndQuack · 22/06/2021 15:25

[quote whatthejiggeries]@buffyajp I agree there is variation and some high Anglican churches mention Mary more but still not to the degree in a Catholic Church. I am confused by your comment on the Eucharist though because the One of the corner stones of Anglicanism is a disbelief in transubstantiation - it's a major difference between Anglicans and Catholics. Anyway it matter not to the point of the OP but it's still a Protestant religion! [/quote]
No, there are Anglicans who believe in transubstantiation. Legend has it that when Elizabeth was asked by Mary to profess her belief, she said:

Christ was the Word that spake it.
He took the bread and brake it.
And what His word did make it.
That I believe, and take it.

I love that and think it is quite representative of the amount of careful avoidance of the issue that goes into Anglican tradition.

But then, I would also resist the idea of Anglicanism as Protestant (I understand if you are Catholic, it must be!).

woodhill · 22/06/2021 17:58

[quote Bells3032]@gremlinsateit ah henry liked to pick and chose his bible. Technically under old testament law if a man dies without children and he has an unmarried brother then that brother is not only allowed to marry his brothers widow but he is duty bound to in order to provide his brother with a legacy. Look at the story of Tamar for this ruling.

It's tech still a law under Jewish law today and a single brother of a childless late man needs to go to Jewish court and repudiate his widow in order to free her (its not a long or expensive ceromony). When we got married we had to register that my dh had a bachelor brother.[/quote]
Interesting

Makes me laugh about Henry using Deuteronomy in this way because if he was a Christian he was meant to follow the New Testament teachings of Jesus and not live by Jewish law in the same way anyway. Itms

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