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New Forest pub bans under 12 year olds...

368 replies

Dresssos · 21/06/2021 11:34

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It's all kicking off in the comments.

Do you agree with the pub's decision?

YABU No
YANBU Yes

OP posts:
LakieLady · 21/06/2021 18:29

@ViciousJackdaw

Surely it's only rampaging children that don't belong in pubs. What's your issue with quiet well behaved ones being there?

Because it's a casual adult environment and I want to be able to use words like shit, piss, fuck, cunt and perhaps even bollocks. There are plenty of places for children to go and pubs are not one of them.

That reminds me of the customer in our local who loudly asked the people at the next table not to swear in front of his children.

The then landlord told him that his children probably heard swearing at school, and that if he didn't like it, he could "Fucking well fuck off and take them home", to much cheering from the foul-mouthed regulars.

A few days later a sign went up saying "If a bit of swearing gets you down, there are other pubs in town ... so fuck off and drink in one of them".

StCharlotte · 21/06/2021 18:32

@ivfgottwins

Good on them - I have 3 Young children and wouldn't dream of taking them to a pub to eat

There are plenty of family friendly restaurants these days to eat at - leave the pub for the grown ups

I think I love you Smile
Imnothereforthedrama · 21/06/2021 18:41

It’s a shame some parents don’t parent their children.
A few years ago me & dh had a rare evening out in a restaurant they had a like a pub area with a DJ so could have a drink after meal . Me & dh were really shocked at the amount of parents bring their young children so they can have a drink . One table especially 2 woman brought their children 2 were running around 1 asleep the other sat playing, 2 mums completely oblivious. We complained the restaurant did nothing said they had come for a meal ( they had not ) it was gone 11pm and they were all primary school age or younger . We voted with out feet left and never went back . It’s not the kids I blame they only know what taught and don’t get me wrong I have children and have took them to many a evening out but you don’t take your children to the pub just so you can drunk with your mate and business shouldn’t be allowing it .
Take your children out by all means I do but look after them parent them and take them home when tired before it’s late as it’s a adult environment.

DinaofCloud9 · 21/06/2021 18:41

Lol at children are better behaved abroad.

Anyone who's been to a restaurant in Disneyland Paris would have seen numerous badly behaved French, Spanish, Italian kids getting away with murder.

Children are the same wherever they live.

ripples101 · 21/06/2021 18:50

I’m going to presume that any unruly adult will be barred. Which is what should happen. And there is never any Facebook post pointing that out.

I hate this notion that kids are incapable of acting accordingly. Kids can act accordingly. Kids especially so from the age of 5 do have the ability to be considerate. Kids are not animals.

So I agree with the owners of the pub.

SallyCinnabon · 21/06/2021 18:53

Good on them, sounds like their hand has been forced. Some parents just let their kids run wild in restaurants.

StoneofDestiny · 21/06/2021 18:59

Sounds great. PITA when parents let their noisy kids run around between tables and back and forth between the waiters trying to serve. If I go to a pub I want to eat in peace and not have other peoples kids foisted upon me.

UnChatNoir · 21/06/2021 20:37

@Posieandpip

I'm so glad my children are growing up abroad! As an expat I miss the UK a lot in many ways, but it's so nice to live in a country where children are welcomed everywhere, in fact, seeing children play and run and laugh and sing and be children is viewed as a joy rather than in the UK where the very sight and sound of children annoys people. Crazy that seeing a child running or hearing their voice can cause such rage to British adults. To be honest, i was probably the same before movint abroad and realising that 90% of other countries are totally different to Britain and actually like children 😂 So lovely to live somewhere where people are genuinely so happy to see children being children in any environment.
God, yeah, it's so 'crazy' that people would dislike badly behaved, rampaging children, disrupting their meal.

So lovely to live somewhere where people are genuinely so happy to see children being children in any environment

So, is 'children being children' running around and disrupting meals? And everyone's fine with that? Glad I don't live where you are 🤣😭

DrCoconut · 21/06/2021 20:54

@LakieLady but are they gluten free places? If your coeliac child has been banned from the compass inn you can't just go elsewhere. It's that aspect that bothers me, the loss to the coeliac community of a safe place for a family to eat out. Hopefully another venue in the area will step up and fill the gap.

Whammyyammy · 21/06/2021 21:03

Well done them. Be nice if all pubs were like this

SuperCaliFragalistic · 21/06/2021 21:06

In the 70s and 80s we were shuffled off to the "family room" which was a grim, sticky, wasteland. Not really part of the pub proper but you could still eat your chicken and chips in a basket and dad could sink 5 pints and smoke a pack of B&H while we sheltered from the rain. Occasionally we got coins for the juke box or a game of pool. We certainly wouldn't have been welcome in the saloon or the public bars under the age of about 13.

Dustyhedge · 21/06/2021 21:35

HelenHywater Why should I go to giraffe and not my local? It would die without families. Slow service is rubbish at the best of times but it doesn’t take a genius to realise its better for everyone to be swift with families with small children.

There is an amazing local pub to me that gets it. It’s just really easy and does a roaring trade. Really small things like having plastic glasses and children’s cutlery, a genuinely good kids menu, sensible zoning of seating (ie families generally one end) and speedy service. It isn’t a softplay pub but it does really well in balancing the needs of families 0with other diners - hence why it is popular. It also doesn’t tolerate misbehaviour or kids wondering around etc.

SofiaMichelle · 21/06/2021 21:44

It would die without families.

I doubt it.

theemmadilemma · 21/06/2021 21:58

@newnortherner111

I wonder if the pub letting all the other pubs know about this family and their behaviour should be done. I know of at least two places where pub landladies and landlords ban anyone who is banned from one of their pubs is banned from all. Happened to a Championship footballer (will not name him so as not to out the town concerned).
We used to have something called Pub Watch where all the local landlords shared info on people, bans etc.
theemmadilemma · 21/06/2021 21:59

Still around: www.nationalpubwatch.org.uk/

tigertreats · 21/06/2021 22:14

@Whatabouttery

What if the child identifies as a fifty year old?
Grinlove it !
Geamhradh · 21/06/2021 22:17

@IrmaFayLear

Reminds me of a thread donkeys’ years ago on here where a poster said the waiters loved her dd when they went to an Italian restaurant, as she ran around banging her tambourine . Grin
I think I remember that. And the one (Greek restaurant I think) where the kids ran riot in the restaurant to the point that a group of people got up and left without eating but the Greek waiters loved the lovely children so much THEY ALL CHEERED! (In the OP's made up story)
Rachie1973 · 21/06/2021 23:59

I love adult only places. Gives me a break!

However, the Compass is shit anyway.

StrangeLookingParasite · 22/06/2021 00:13

alcohol, drugs and adultery

Woo!

Brefugee · 22/06/2021 12:16

It’s alarming some people dislike children so much they can’t bear to be in the same space as them. But it’s a good idea to have a designated pub for all the grumpies, that way they can complain about each other and save the rest of us from their tutting. I sometimes take my kids to the pub, they sit there and drink an orange juice, it’s terribly offensive.

We'll encourage other parents you know to parent their offspring.

I was out for dinner once where there was a small noisy child disturbing pretty much an entire restaurant of adults. Until one young woman went over and hissed that she hadn't forked out a fortune on clothes hair and a babysitter to have her evening ruined and would they just fuck off home. And... They actually did.

Arbadacarba · 22/06/2021 17:42

I think the reason for banning under 12s (rather than a younger age limit) is because it also frees them up from having a "children's menu", as the cut off age for those is usually 12.

Don't pubs make a lot of money from children's menus, though? They charge restaurant prices for 'meals' consisting of three chicken nuggets, five chips and and 11 green peas. If I'm bored waiting for food to arrive, the extortionately priced school-dinner type food that restaurants try to con parents into buying in the name of the 'children's menu' is always good for a laugh.

ConstanceGracy · 22/06/2021 17:44

*That reminds me of the customer in our local who loudly asked the people at the next table not to swear in front of his children.

The then landlord told him that his children probably heard swearing at school, and that if he didn't like it, he could "Fucking well fuck off and take them home", to much cheering from the foul-mouthed regulars.
A few days later a sign went up saying "If a bit of swearing gets you down, there are other pubs in town ... so fuck off and drink in one of them".*
Wow.. sounds like a delightful place .

5zeds · 22/06/2021 17:56

I HATE the way children are treated in the UK. What on Earth is wrong with you that you can’t eat in the same room as someone a few years younger than you???Shock

motogogo · 22/06/2021 18:09

@5zeds

Nothing wrong with the children eating. The problem is that some parents don't supervise and entertain their children, children chasing about knocking into other diners and waiting staff is not unusual, with parents saying nothing. Never seen kids in france or Spain misbehaving like that at the table! My kids ate out from babies, but then they also ate at the table at home as soon as they used a high chair, every night no getting down until everyone was finished - I'm proud to say I never got complaints about them in restaurants (all grown up now so pre tablets and smart phones)

CoalHouseDoor · 22/06/2021 18:15

Isn’t that a bit of a palaver?

I just taught mine not to drop food.