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New Forest pub bans under 12 year olds...

368 replies

Dresssos · 21/06/2021 11:34

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It's all kicking off in the comments.

Do you agree with the pub's decision?

YABU No
YANBU Yes

OP posts:
HelenHywater · 21/06/2021 16:05

But you're in a pub @dustyhedge. Go to a Giraffe if you want all of that.

As a pp says, your tolerance for young children in a pub or grown up restaurant reduces as your own children get older. If I go to a pub, I no longer want to sit next to a family performance parenting toddlers, a messy high chair, a dad standing up frantically rocking a young baby, or the general hum of peppa pig playing on an ipad however well-behaved the child is supposed to be.

WhyNotNow21 · 21/06/2021 16:10

@HelenHywater couldn't put it better. I also don't want all that crap.

Hoghgyni · 21/06/2021 16:10

& it would be even worse at the Compass as it's only 2 miles from Peppa Pig World!

yellowspot · 21/06/2021 16:11

@Orf1abc

The pub owners are well known attention seekers, they've got a dog called Boris and they were extremely vocal about their love of Brexit. Knowing their views, and their regular clientele, I doubt it's just children that aren't welcome.
Came to say this!

She's known to be openly rude and generally not very nice unless you're a local/ regular in most days.

I completely agree they're within their rights to say no children but when you allow dogs to roam around being annoying and are rude yourself, I don't feel you have a key to stand on when be take offence.

Such a shame because the food is lovely. Shame about the owner.

Blossomtoes · 21/06/2021 16:15

@HopeForTheBestExpectTheWorst

Or they could just have asked the family in question to leave Hmm
They did. But it’s clearly an ongoing problem. The FB post says “Yet again”. They’ve had enough, it’s their pub and they’ve decided they don’t want kids in it.
NeverDropYourMoonCup · 21/06/2021 16:18

They may well be dicks. But they can still ban under 12s if they wish to - and having worked in a pub that did allow them, I don't blame them one bit for doing so, as nothing a family does can surprise me from that short term job.

fairyannie · 21/06/2021 16:30

A fair percentage of parents seem to have absolved themselves from any responsibility with regards to the behaviour of their children.

They will justify their child's misbehaviour until the cows come home.

No arguing with ignorance.

cakewench · 21/06/2021 16:36

@Orf1abc

The pub owners are well known attention seekers, they've got a dog called Boris and they were extremely vocal about their love of Brexit. Knowing their views, and their regular clientele, I doubt it's just children that aren't welcome.
yes I knew I'd read the name somewhere. They clearly know how to work social media. Wonder if OP is interning. Grin

As for the question, no I don't care if a pub wants to ban children, though I imagine it will limit their business on a Sunday when it's usually families gathering together.

Babygotblueyes · 21/06/2021 16:37

Its a shame for responsible parents, but so many people now let their kids run riot and it is so obnoxious.

NerrSnerr · 21/06/2021 16:37

I agree with them. I have a 6 and 4 year old and especially after not eating out for so long during Covid we make sure we're armed with activity books to keep them quiet. We also currently only go to very family friendly places (my 4 year old was 2 when the first lockdown happened so he needs training up in eating out so we're doing it very gradually).

PotassiumChloride · 21/06/2021 16:41

Their pub, their rules. Sounds bloody brilliant if you ask me, and I say that as a parent of an under 12.

laughoutquiet · 21/06/2021 16:50

@SchrodingersImmigrant

In general, I hate how un-child friendly this country is, and there's definitely a tendency for the child-haters to stick the boot in

I am putting my hard hat on.
It became un-child friendly simply because parents are getting worse in controlling the behaviour. Over 10 years in hospitality I can categorically say that it got worse. You know British families are famous abroad for these things too (sadly)? It's not just young kids in restaurants btw.

Agreeing!

I cannot believe how SOME parents completely ignore their kids in a cafe or restaurant setting!

Bythemillpond · 21/06/2021 16:54

We have always eaten out a couple of times per week. I think dc were so used to it and we knew the signals when they were becoming restless when they were very young that we could head off any disturbances before they happened and they quickly learned how to behave in restaurants and it was the norm for them to sit and eat

I think people eat out a lot more in places like Italy and Spain so their children are used to going out from a very young age.
I wonder if there is a correlation between children who don’t sit down and the number of times their parents eat out with or without them

cocoloco987 · 21/06/2021 16:56

Because it's a casual adult environment and I want to be able to use words like shit, piss, fuck, cunt and perhaps even bollocks. There are plenty of places for children to go and pubs are not one of them.

In the bar area that's up to you but most adults would not want to be dining and having someone sitting at the next table saying piss fuck and cunt while they enjoy their pub lunch. If I was with my children I'd be using that as a good example of how not to behave/where swearing is not appropriate.

poorfanjo · 21/06/2021 17:21

There's a pub near us that has banned children as a child was running around and ran into a waitress causing her to fall over and drop a full gravy boat of gravy onto the kids head and he was really badly burned, the waitress also dislocated her knee and was off work for ages. It was really talked about on the local Facebook group as the family tried to sue!

I went into a different pub at the weekend and he was still running around banging into people so his parents haven't learned

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 21/06/2021 17:23

Up to them!

GreyhoundG1rl · 21/06/2021 17:26

@poorfanjo

There's a pub near us that has banned children as a child was running around and ran into a waitress causing her to fall over and drop a full gravy boat of gravy onto the kids head and he was really badly burned, the waitress also dislocated her knee and was off work for ages. It was really talked about on the local Facebook group as the family tried to sue!

I went into a different pub at the weekend and he was still running around banging into people so his parents haven't learned

They tried to sue... Says it all, really 🙄
LakieLady · 21/06/2021 17:36

@DrCoconut

It's a real pity for those who can't go elsewhere. I remember the reaction when they first banned children in the week, lots of comments saying go to soft play etc. Not an option for coeliac children and it's horrible that a few people have spoiled things for everyone else. Yes it's not essential to eat out but it's nice isn't it?
There are plenty of pubs in the area that allow children.

The Turfcutters Arms at East Boldre, a few miles south, is very child friendly. It allows dogs, too!

Abracadabra12345 · 21/06/2021 17:58

@RuthW

I'm sure a pub with no children would get a lot of custom.
This. Back in my day (yes, when dinosaurs roamed the earth) kids weren’t allowed in pubs and we’d sit outside with a pickled egg and a bag of crisps! Not that you’d leave kids on their own now of course, but the point is - pubs were the province of adults, not kids. When did that all change? There are a zillion restaurants and cafes to take children, they don’t HAVE to go everywhere an adult goes.

I’d love an adult only pub!

kofiban · 21/06/2021 18:16

I don't really get this "when did pubs become places for children?" stuff, I know in the evening it's an adult's world but I grew up in the 80s/90s and spent a lot of time in pubs and pub gardens with my family!

Oldraver · 21/06/2021 18:22

The New Forest is such a relaxed place that some families interpret this as letting their kids go wild while they eat drink

Viviennemary · 21/06/2021 18:23

I think the slimmed down monarchy did include Harry and his family originally. So exactly why they left is still a mystery to me. Perhaps they didnt want the full royal opening village halls in the rain duties. So hence the half in half out suggestion. Doesn't seem the quarter in three quarters out reality is working very well at the moment.

Viviennemary · 21/06/2021 18:23

Wrong thread. Sorry. Blush

VeniVidiWeeWee · 21/06/2021 18:24

Sign in one of my locals:

New Forest pub bans under 12 year olds...
KarmaStar · 21/06/2021 18:26

At last someone with common sense.brilliant.