India Knight. To be shocked by the lack of self awareness.

[Tacono1]

I feel sad writing this as I have enjoyed her writing at times. I have been quite disturbed by recent developments but do still read The Times as I do still value their overall output ( their ongoing campaign on behalf of those impacted by the cladding scandal is excellent )so do still scan her articles. Today was a discussion of veganism etc. which did make some interesting points but right in the middle was the following statement
‘ I don’t much believe in hypocrisy, which is often the stupid person’s way of oversimplifying complicated and nuanced human choices’
The fact that it was written, then the fact that it wasn’t picked up by editors is astounding.
I think her position is untenable.

@OneFootintheRave upthread is a quote. I happen to be married to someone distantly related to A O'H though and have it on good authority their daughter is not with IK. I know no more about EJ or the case but it chills me to the bone.

Interesting some posters don't know what they'd do in this situation. Personally if I caught so much of a whiff of my husband searching for abusive images like that he would be out on his arse like a fucking shot. I adore the man but that's based on my belief he is a good human being. As a mother, I couldn't stomach those crimes. Whether the law sees it as akin to a drunken brawl or not is completely irrelevant to me from a moral standpoint.

Exactly @DulseSeaweed. It's sickening.

@Anaiis
I think you are peddling misinformation. Burglaries are not pursued by the police in Manchester. It’s down to a lack of resources not a ‘ change in policy ‘ Agencies are struggling but trying to suggest it’s policy, not resources is not the situation. Policy is driven by resources. Of course contact offences are priority.
I agree @ DulseSeaweed. I wouldn’t have a moment’s hesitation. That’s not to say I don’t find the situation concerning in terms of IK and her situation.I hope she does find the strength to reflect on where she has found herself and further find the strength to extricate herself.

@Anaiis

Are you saying this man has had sex with children Clymene? I'm sure he would have been charged with such an offence if he had.

RickiTarr I think I get the point you're trying to make ie that unlike 30-40 years ago - albeit that even then many people considered this to be revolting, the abuse of children (especially where under the guise of relationships) is universally unacceptable. Quite rightly. But I think you're wrong about societal condemnation of offences relating to the possession of images of child abuse. As more police forces stop prosecuting offenders (moving more towards a model of engaging with treatment), and the line drawn by the legal system between contact and non contact offences grows more defined, it seems more likely you will see less disapproval, not more, simply because the outputs (people being prosecuted, their offences being reported in the paper) are reducing.

No, just created a demand for content from men that do have sex with children. Of all the hills to die on, it’s an interesting choice you’re making.

This has to be the strangest thread ever

@HareofEasttown

I think she's clearly utterly miserable. She's overweight by quite some margin, stuck in the sticks with her paedo partner.

The neighbours will all be revolted by them. Her disgusting man is probably revolted by her if his tastes are more the newborn end of the age spectrum, so she's lonely and sad and the only thing she can do is keep stuffing her face and keep changing her username on MN in a pathetic attempt to defend her despicable actions.

Why are you putting her weight in as an equal to all the more notable things that are wrong about IK?

There are millions if not billions of women who are overweight who don't turn a blind eye to paedophilia.

Your post is foul.

Agree with the weight point! It’s neither here nor there.

@Chicchicchicchiclana as foul as staying with a fucking PEDOPHILE?!

It's quite kind. It's certainly a lot better than she deserves. Well said @HareofEasttown

Your morals have to be well and truly shot to pieces if you are willing to stay married to a paedophile. Talk about desperate and complicit.

Anotherlovelybitofsquirrel - her weight is neither here nor there! Don't you see?