Neighbours pis*ed off we're in our garden when isolating

[blakeway45]

Me, DH and 2x DC (age 4 and 2) are isolating due to DH testing positive (the issues that come with this could be a whole other post in itself!).

Neighbours know we are isolating as they know my MIL well.

Yesterday we spent most of the day in and out of the garden. We're all feeling fine, kids have been playing in their paddling pool and on their slide and I've been pottering about and sunbathing. We also had lunch in the garden as a family.

Neighbours are livid we're in the garden when isolating because we could pass it to them over the fence?! I appreciate COVID is making everyone worry in lots of ways, but we are not breaking ANY rules in doing and it's OUR garden?! I'd be going insane if we had no outside space! Although the gardens run alongside each other all the way down, the gardens are pretty wide, it's not like we're sharing a space or are massively on top of each other?! There's a fence and a great big bush between us for goodness sake!!!

They have text me and called my MIL saying they're not pleased we're outside while we have COVID and they'd appreciate it if we'd be more careful and not pass it along the street?!

AIBU????

YANBU. If they're extremely worried they can stay out of their garden.

@thing47

You can't catch Covid outside unless you're in close contact for a prolonged period. Unless both your children and your neighbours are standing with their noses pressed up against the fence for 15 minutes at a time, OP, I doubt you fit the criteria

Tell me you don't really think that?

maybe point out to her that the garden shouldnt be her main concern...its catching it from you both texting that she should be worried about. she probably needs to get tested asap.

Delta variant Covid is 40% transmissable outside and airborne

This is wrong. It is estimated to be 40-60% more transmissible than the previous variant in terms of the secondary attack rate. The SAR has increased from 8% to approx 11.5%. It is still a lot less likely to be spread outdoors. And yes it’s airborne, as were all previous variants. That’s nothing new.

“40% transmissible” doesn’t mean anything.

Tell me you don't really think that?

I don't just think it, I know it.

Technically, it can live in the air for 3 hours, but it declines in efficacy by the minute and disperses almost instantly unless someone in close proximity is coughing and sneezing over you. Garden to garden is highly unlikely to be sufficiently close proximity.

If you have a garden or outdoor space where you live, you can use that to go outside while you self-isolate. You should take extra care to stay at least 2 metres (6 feet, or 3 steps) away from other people who might pass by or look into your garden – for example, people walking on the street or neighbours in their own garden.

They sound mental! Enjoy your time outdoors 😁

@KellyLynch

I’d understand their worries if your fence is a low one or they’ve had the Astra Zenica vaccine which is 35% less effective than Pfizer or moderne. The virus is airborn and can be moved by wind so the size of your fence is important especially with the Indian variant.

Hahaha ignorance stopped there !!

Airborne YES !! You must be in an enclosed place for more than 15 minutes to catch anything though… it will not just fly through the air, stuck on your nose and infect you … this is not “THe happening” movie

I’m baffled my peoples thinking on Covid.
Ffs not everyone can isolate from their family those that think you can either have a big house with plenty of space extra bathrooms etc or have never had to isolate.
The op can’t spread Covid to her neighbours by going in the garden it’s ridiculous to even think this . I thought we got past all this last year when people were calling those going out for exercise once a day irresponsible. Or you should only shop once a month.
Just stop it the op has done nothing wrong it’s on the guidance that you can go in the garden so stop making your own guidance up .

FFS …. Stop the world, I want to get out of here 🙈

You are allowed in your garden 🤣

YANBU 🥰

Your neighbours are ridiculous.

If a member of my family got Covid I wouldn't be asking them to isolate within the house. We're a family, we share everything including illness!

Totally allowed to be in your own private garden positive result or close contact self isolation. Boris and co even said so. Neighbours are being paranoid. It would be a different story if you were caught sneaking out in the car or bumped into them at the local shop. Let them sod off inside!
I hope you and your family are all doing ok ❤️

YANBU. They'll be marking your door with a skull and bones next.......☠

@KellyLynch

Evidence of those bold statements?

This is the first ever post I have read on Mumsnet that made me laugh out loud. That’s how ridiculous you’re neighbours are!

Tell them to eff off. People are bagshot crazy.

@Usernamerequired

Totally allowed to be in your own private garden positive result or close contact self isolation. Boris and co even said so. Neighbours are being paranoid. It would be a different story if you were caught sneaking out in the car or bumped into them at the local shop. Let them sod off inside! I hope you and your family are all doing ok ❤️

Boris and co even said so.

FFS. You believe anything Johnson says? Neighbours are not being paranoid.

CV carries on the breath. Example: if they smoke, and you can smell that, you're at risk of being infected by them. Remember how far a cloud of exhaled tobacco smoke travels? That's how far CV can travel.

Batshit crazy!

Yes, covid is airborne. This means that infected droplets from someone with covid, will be expelled with their breath and more so if they're coughing or shouting. Hence, in an enclosed space if the infected person is wearing a mask, the infected droplets will tend to be absorbed by the fabric and thereby reducing the amount of viral particles, in the local atmosphere. In an outside location, the amount of infected particles will be immediately diluted in the air. Therefore, reducing any viral transfer to surrounding people, to the point where infection is extremely unlikely. So using masks in an outside environment is purely an exercise to make people feel safe, but has no real practical effect. On top of this, studies have shown that a fabric mask worn for 8 hrs or more, will have colonies of bacterial and fungal particles that can cause respiratory problems if constantly breathed in. So the use of masks needs to done with a level of understanding, regarding of their effects. And ideally only used when there really is a benefit. And if they're not disposable, they should be regularly cleaned.

Its very contagious I don't think isolating to one room would help as you will all be sharing the same space and not fair on the kids. Crazy world that people suggest this especially with little ones.

@Vintagevixen

Your neighbours are ridiculous.

If a member of my family got Covid I wouldn't be asking them to isolate within the house. We're a family, we share everything including illness!

Lovely. Share the covid. Share the ventilator. You sure about that?

You isolate within that house because that's what you are required to do. It's not a choice.

@patsysbliss1980

Yes, covid is airborne. This means that infected droplets from someone with covid, will be expelled with their breath and more so if they're coughing or shouting. Hence, in an enclosed space if the infected person is wearing a mask, the infected droplets will tend to be absorbed by the fabric and thereby reducing the amount of viral particles, in the local atmosphere. In an outside location, the amount of infected particles will be immediately diluted in the air. Therefore, reducing any viral transfer to surrounding people, to the point where infection is extremely unlikely. So using masks in an outside environment is purely an exercise to make people feel safe, but has no real practical effect. On top of this, studies have shown that a fabric mask worn for 8 hrs or more, will have colonies of bacterial and fungal particles that can cause respiratory problems if constantly breathed in. So the use of masks needs to done with a level of understanding, regarding of their effects. And ideally only used when there really is a benefit. And if they're not disposable, they should be regularly cleaned.

So keep spare masks. Wash them.

I'd love to read some evidence (empirical, not DM) for your claims.

I have had a shitty week in work. This has cheered me right up. Batshit neighbours.

@Vintagevixen

Your neighbours are ridiculous.

If a member of my family got Covid I wouldn't be asking them to isolate within the house. We're a family, we share everything including illness!

Sorry to derail, but @Vintagevixen I’m currently taking care of my normally healthy 19 year old who is extremely ill with Covid (and yes, he’s isolating in his bedroom and a bathroom). Trust me, this is one illness you don’t want to share.