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To ask you to guess which one is female?

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morepizza · 16/06/2021 11:47

Ridiculous

To ask you to guess which one is female?
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RainingZen · 16/06/2021 11:59

How depressing.

morepizza · 16/06/2021 12:01

Yep. Pleasing I see less of the pink crap on BBC children's programmes, but American stuff is still very heavily gendered.

It's a shame

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BiarritzCrackers · 16/06/2021 12:05

Obviously I get your point about the two pink ones, but the orange one appears female too - reminds me of Velma from Scooby Doo. The male blue one is styled a lot like Freddy too.

VestaTilley · 16/06/2021 12:17

YANBU. Depressing.

KettlePolly · 16/06/2021 12:19

The concept is ridiculous! Reminds me of Alan Partridge's Monkey Tennis Grin

Overdueanamechange · 16/06/2021 12:20

The fact that the girl trains are doe eyed 3rd picture down is disturbing.

justanotherneighinparadise · 16/06/2021 12:22

I don’t find it depressing. Many girls love the colour pink, myself included. I understand your point but it doesn’t depress me. So MUCH does depress me but not little girls liking the colour pink.

thatllberight · 16/06/2021 12:25

Paw Patrol is the worst for this IMO. Why only one girl when they're fucking dogs? Why does Skye have eyelashes? Why is everything pink? So stupid.

morepizza · 16/06/2021 12:25

@Overdueanamechange

The fact that the girl trains are doe eyed 3rd picture down is disturbing.
The girl has a breathy Marilyn Munroe voice too which is weird, frankly
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morepizza · 16/06/2021 12:26

@thatllberight

Paw Patrol is the worst for this IMO. Why only one girl when they're fucking dogs? Why does Skye have eyelashes? Why is everything pink? So stupid.
So stupid.

Alaska is a girl and not pink, but added later maybe to address the pinkification

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morepizza · 16/06/2021 12:27

@justanotherneighinparadise

I don’t find it depressing. Many girls love the colour pink, myself included. I understand your point but it doesn’t depress me. So MUCH does depress me but not little girls liking the colour pink.
Ever wondered why 'little girls' love the colour pink?
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TheLovelinessOfDemons · 16/06/2021 12:27

I hate this, so does my DD. We used to love Ruby in Super 4 because she wasn't pink.

purpleboy · 16/06/2021 12:28

Thank god I don't have little ones who watch this shite.

morepizza · 16/06/2021 12:30

@purpleboy

Thank god I don't have little ones who watch this shite.
He watches other stuff too by the way
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Laiste · 16/06/2021 12:31

If pink is so great why not make one of the boy characters pink? Or does pink only look pink enough if it's on a girl?

morepizza · 16/06/2021 12:31

@Laiste

If pink is so great why not make one of the boy characters pink? Or does pink only look pink enough if it's on a girl?
Eggggggggggzactly
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justanotherneighinparadise · 16/06/2021 12:38

Ever wondered why 'little girls' love the colour pink?

I’m a GC feminist, I get it, but it’s a chicken and egg debate. Did the stereotype come before or after the obvious preference for the colour? Who knows!

Coronawireless · 16/06/2021 12:44

No problem if the girl is pink. Lots of girls like pink. It’s a stereotypical girl colour which is exactly why many girls - who like being girls - like pink. There is nothing wrong with being a girl or liking to associate yourself with stereotypically girl things.

If the girl character is presented as only existing to please the boys and not a person in her own right that is different. I also have a problem with a girl character being better than the boys at everything because this is unrealistic. Also shows where the girls put down the boys all the time - tiresome.
I like shows where both boys and girls have something to bring to the table and both matter as characters.

Pink? Cant get excited (unless I had a bad case of internalised misogyny).

Coronawireless · 16/06/2021 12:45

The doe eyes are annoying I agree because they sexualise a character in a CHILDREN’S show.

forinborin · 16/06/2021 12:59

@thatllberight

Paw Patrol is the worst for this IMO. Why only one girl when they're fucking dogs? Why does Skye have eyelashes? Why is everything pink? So stupid.
Zuma was also localised as a girl in some languages to redress the gender balance. My DD was gutted when she switched to watching PP in English and found out that Zuma is a boy - was her favourite character.
Zenithal · 16/06/2021 12:59

I really couldn't give a fuck about this.

MouseyTheVampireSlayer · 16/06/2021 13:01

The main problem with these things is there's usually only one girl.
The same with most movies apart from rom coms.
It wouldn't matter if one girl were pink and stereotypically girly, if there were enough other main girl characters who weren't and were a spectrum of looks and personality.
Having one girl character means she has to represent every girl. She usually ends up having very little personality, or else they cram all the personality traits associated with being a 'good' girl and she ends up being brilliant at everything with absolutely no flaws.
Girls and women are fifth percent of the population and come in all shapes, sizes and personalities. TV should reflect that, particularly TV for young kids.

Naunet · 16/06/2021 13:05

@justanotherneighinparadise

Ever wondered why 'little girls' love the colour pink?

I’m a GC feminist, I get it, but it’s a chicken and egg debate. Did the stereotype come before or after the obvious preference for the colour? Who knows!

The stereotype came first. It use to be pink for a boy and blue for a girl. Pink was closer to red, the colour of blood, so considered more masculine. Now it’s switched. Sure, lots proof girls might like pink, but lots don’t, can they have some representation too? And what about boys who like pink? Why do boys get a whole range of colours and girls just get pink and purple?
justanotherneighinparadise · 16/06/2021 13:06

@MouseyTheVampireSlayer

The main problem with these things is there's usually only one girl. The same with most movies apart from rom coms. It wouldn't matter if one girl were pink and stereotypically girly, if there were enough other main girl characters who weren't and were a spectrum of looks and personality. Having one girl character means she has to represent every girl. She usually ends up having very little personality, or else they cram all the personality traits associated with being a 'good' girl and she ends up being brilliant at everything with absolutely no flaws. Girls and women are fifth percent of the population and come in all shapes, sizes and personalities. TV should reflect that, particularly TV for young kids.
That’s because the cartoons are generally made with boys in mind. So the majority of characters are male.

You could argue that programs shouldn’t be made with a particular sex in mind, and I’d probably agree with you, as they’ll always be some girls who love cars, and trains, and dumper trucks. But on the whole much of what we watch nowadays will be geared towards some demographic and they’ll be algorithms tracking that. We are sadly quite sheep like when it comes to stereotypes with the odd eccentric exception.

MouseyTheVampireSlayer · 16/06/2021 13:06

@justanotherneighinparadise

Ever wondered why 'little girls' love the colour pink?

I’m a GC feminist, I get it, but it’s a chicken and egg debate. Did the stereotype come before or after the obvious preference for the colour? Who knows!

Pink wasn't even a colour associated with girls till after the Victorian era. Blue was a girl signifier on account of the virgin Mary.

Of course, despite being extremely misogynistic children weren't so extremely gendered as in modern times. (In tudor times all children were treated a bit like nursery larvae until they were considered men or non men-around 13)

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