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To ask you to guess which one is female?

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morepizza · 16/06/2021 11:47

Ridiculous

To ask you to guess which one is female?
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morepizza · 16/06/2021 14:03

@Hallyup6

Can't see anything wrong with it. So what if she's pink? Would it be better if all girls' stuff was blue? It's just a colour.

Or maybe she's a trans train. I could believe that, in this world where people are ridiculously offended by everything.

No it wouldn't be better to have girls' stuff as all blue, that would be the same issue wouldn't it.

Maybe you're happy being lumped together with every other female into one pink homogenous lump.

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1forAll74 · 16/06/2021 14:22

These things are just for fun,for children,, and not to be taken seriously, and debated about by grown ups. It's weird to have these kind of mindsets.

Zenithal · 16/06/2021 14:29

That logic cracks me up - I didn't realise we were only allowed to comment in agreement.

ErrolTheDragon · 16/06/2021 14:33

Unfortunately, the stereotypes perpetuated in kids entertainment, toys and clothing have ramifications as they grow up. It can limit the choices made by girls and boys, affecting their ideas about what they should, or can, do.

spanielstail · 16/06/2021 14:35

Stereotyping is what kept women oppressed. Too stupid to be involved in politics, too emotional for important jobs, that WE WANT to skivvy to men because that’s how we were made etc. And still today, just look at rape cases - women can’t be trusted, we’re liars he’ll bent on revenge etc. There are real life consequences to stereotyping.
Are you casual about racial stereotyping out of interest?

But women and men are different!!

Women can breast feed and give birth so do more child rearing. Men are stronger so do more DIY.

However, I want my little girl to be a string powerful woman with a great career who embraces her femininity whilst also climbing mountains and cycling through mud.

I think racism/ sexism etc wouldn't be as much of an issue if e didn't constantly look for it.

morepizza · 16/06/2021 14:41

@ErrolTheDragon

Unfortunately, the stereotypes perpetuated in kids entertainment, toys and clothing have ramifications as they grow up. It can limit the choices made by girls and boys, affecting their ideas about what they should, or can, do.
Exactly
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Hallyup6 · 16/06/2021 14:42

If it didn't sell, they wouldn't do it. There's clearly a want for it. It's business, at the end of the day. If women stopped buying pink stuff, it wouldn't be produced. Don't tell me there isn't a choice because the are plenty of other colour items available.

And I've seen plenty of programmes with non-pink female characters.

Naunet · 16/06/2021 14:44

@spanielstail

**Stereotyping is what kept women oppressed. Too stupid to be involved in politics, too emotional for important jobs, that WE WANT to skivvy to men because that’s how we were made etc. And still today, just look at rape cases - women can’t be trusted, we’re liars he’ll bent on revenge etc. There are real life consequences to stereotyping. Are you casual about racial stereotyping out of interest?**

But women and men are different!!

Women can breast feed and give birth so do more child rearing. Men are stronger so do more DIY.

However, I want my little girl to be a string powerful woman with a great career who embraces her femininity whilst also climbing mountains and cycling through mud.

I think racism/ sexism etc wouldn't be as much of an issue if e didn't constantly look for it.

Men and women are different, I agree. That doesn’t justify stereotypes put on women and girls by men/society. Are women not allowed to define themselves? Are we not individuals? And if we are, why do you object to the women who don’t like only having the pink, cute, caring stereotypes, vocalising it?
AssassinatedBeauty · 16/06/2021 14:47

Worth mentioning Let Toys Be Toys/Let Books Be Books/Let Clothes Be Clothes. Lots of interesting resources about why these colour coding stereotypes are harmful to both girls and boys.

www.lettoysbetoys.org.uk/
www.lettoysbetoys.org.uk/about/letbooksbebooks/
www.letclothesbeclothes.co.uk/

The fact that men and women have biological differences is no reason for children's cartoon characters to be mainly male, with the token female character being pink and peripheral.

LadyR77 · 16/06/2021 14:51

@morepizza

To PP, there's no orange one.

There's one female character and she's pink. Complete with breathy voice and heart glasses

There is an orange one - and she is female poohadventures.fandom.com/wiki/Genie_(Robot_Trains)

Aside from that, though, I do totally agree with you!

LolaSmiles · 16/06/2021 14:54

I find it depressing and all part of the pinkification of girlhood and womanhood. It's regressive stereotyping.

Bic for her = pink pens because us women need a girly pen
Women's razors = pink because our legs needs a special pink treatment and might burn if we use a blue or orange or black one

Female cartoon characters = got to be pink or have a bow, how else will everyone know they're female. Clearly writers haven't looked at society and realised most women/girls don't dress in head to toe pink with all the stereotypical gender markers.

TiltTopTable · 16/06/2021 15:18

The entrenchment of gendered colours has, IMO, become much worse since I had my children 30 years ago. I rarely dressed my DC, both girls, in pink. There were so many colours to choose from in Woolworths, Adams, C&A and the new kid on the block H&M, that pink was a rare purchase.

I've recently become a granny, and I'm so disappointed in the choices available for babies and little children. I went into a large, out of town, Next to buy some baby clothes and was met with a wall of blue and pink. The same for other places too. H&M are still pretty good.

It's all so boring and predictable. Fortunately my DD doesn't buy into gender stereotypes and dresses her little one in lots of different colours, but usually blue!

Naunet · 16/06/2021 15:22

@TiltTopTable

The entrenchment of gendered colours has, IMO, become much worse since I had my children 30 years ago. I rarely dressed my DC, both girls, in pink. There were so many colours to choose from in Woolworths, Adams, C&A and the new kid on the block H&M, that pink was a rare purchase.

I've recently become a granny, and I'm so disappointed in the choices available for babies and little children. I went into a large, out of town, Next to buy some baby clothes and was met with a wall of blue and pink. The same for other places too. H&M are still pretty good.

It's all so boring and predictable. Fortunately my DD doesn't buy into gender stereotypes and dresses her little one in lots of different colours, but usually blue!

Absolutely. As a child in the 80s my toys were all different colours. Now we have to have special pink and purple Lego for girls. I played with Lego in the 80s and managed not to grow a penis, but I guess the risk was too high!
morepizza · 16/06/2021 15:36

Here is another programme robocar poli

Not only is the only girl an ambulance, they've changed the ambulance into a pink ambulance. With a bow.

To ask you to guess which one is female?
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morepizza · 16/06/2021 15:36

Oh, and eyelashes of course!

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Naunet · 16/06/2021 15:43

@morepizza

Here is another programme robocar poli

Not only is the only girl an ambulance, they've changed the ambulance into a pink ambulance. With a bow.

Ugh. I bet they had a real dilemma as to if they should make her the ambulance (caring) or the school bus (children).
C130 · 16/06/2021 16:02

@spanielstail

**Stereotyping is what kept women oppressed. Too stupid to be involved in politics, too emotional for important jobs, that WE WANT to skivvy to men because that’s how we were made etc. And still today, just look at rape cases - women can’t be trusted, we’re liars he’ll bent on revenge etc. There are real life consequences to stereotyping. Are you casual about racial stereotyping out of interest?**

But women and men are different!!

Women can breast feed and give birth so do more child rearing. Men are stronger so do more DIY.

However, I want my little girl to be a string powerful woman with a great career who embraces her femininity whilst also climbing mountains and cycling through mud.

I think racism/ sexism etc wouldn't be as much of an issue if e didn't constantly look for it.

Racial stereotyping is very much an issue, and no, one does not need to constantly look for it. It is quite obvious to those that are unfortunate enough to have to deal with it.
ColintheCrow · 16/06/2021 17:51

Bluey all the way here, also I am dinosaur and Park ranger. All of my kids love Racegrooves on YouTube. And the dancer photographer.

Mousetown · 16/06/2021 18:39

Women can breast feed and give birth so do more child rearing. Men are stronger so do more DIY

What has strength got to do with DIY?

Coronawireless · 16/06/2021 18:41

@Mousetown

Women can breast feed and give birth so do more child rearing. Men are stronger so do more DIY

What has strength got to do with DIY?

If you must be literal, strength has a lot to do with heavy lifting, pushing, pulling, carrying, climbing, twisting etc Obviously doesn’t apply to putting up a shelf or changing a lightbulb.
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