Will your teenagers be taking the covid vaccine

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DD is 16 and has said she won’t. I wondered with the Pfizer vaccine being approved for age 12-15 will your teens be taking the covid vaccine and are you leaving the decision to them?

My 13 year old DS hates needles but he's up for it as he knows how important it is. He also does the two weekly Covid tests without complaint. I'm so proud of him actually, he doesn't find it easy but just gets on with it.

Dd9 would refuse it as needle phobic. I would restrain her for it if it was offered to her.
Please don't! What if that experience makes it so much worse so that she chooses never to have jabs as an adult? You can't hold her down then!
Better to invest in some therapy to make it easier?

Not a chance i would let my 12 year old have a new vaccination we don’t know long term side effects for something that doesn’t effect his age group

@Theluggage15

I think it’s appalling if the vaccine is given to children when adults are dying in other countries leaving children as orphans, but the selfishness of the British people doesn’t surprise me now.

As for the people declaring their teenagers are into social responsibility, that clearly doesn’t extend to people in poorer countries or are they completely unaware of the difficulties of vaccine supply elsewhere? I wonder where their narrow minded view comes from. And holding your child down! Dear God.

I brought that up on another thread and I strongly agree, but another poster pointed out that the Pfizer vaccine is tricky to use in mass programmes across undeveloped countries (I don't think that's quite the correct term but I can't think of the term!) because of storage issues. And because we are now reaching the end of the population we want to use AZ on we will soon be in a position to donate more AZ vaccines. I'm looking for some stats on this but it's shifted my position a bit.

So, if or when you prove to be wrong, @user1494055864, will you be coming on here to admit it?

To be fair if she's proved wrong then there's a very high likelihood she will still have a perfectly healthy dc who can then choose to take the vaccine if they want. I'd rather be proved wrong than right!

While there are plenty of valid concerns and good, strong and interesting debate and thoughts on this thread, always worth remembering that not all who post with anti-vaccination sentiments do so in good faith.

@Clymene

Yes, just like they've had their meningitis and HPV jabs as teenagers. It should become a normal part of our preventative vaccination schedule

Except that those 2 vaccines are for the benefit of the child and the C-19 isn’t. It benefits adults mainly.

Yes just like I said in your duplicate thread - do we really need the same thing twice? (Plus the multiple threads already posted on this exact subject?)

Most people I see saying no are not anti vax at all. Most have their dc vaccinated for all the routine jabs. Mine have had everything but no longer get the flu. They got it as preschoolers when flu was a higher risk to them than it is now yet even flu is more of a risk than covid at their current ages.

@Roonerspismed

Amazed. Amazed at this thread.

Have decided I am quite mad. Absolutely no way mine will until I see longer term data. Can’t understand why any parent would want it for their teens. Can’t understand why we aren’t vaccinating more vulnerable adults across the works instead.

As an aside we have very little knowledge of longer term effects of mRNA vaccines. Autoimmunity is main concern but the menstrual irregularities and myocarditis also need more data. Can’t understand why more people aren’t hugely bothered about this

This

100%

And it does feel incredibly immoral to vaccinate an extremely low risk teen when Nepal/India etc are crying out for vaccination for higher risk people.

Yeah my dd is scared of needles but said a very quick yes when I asked if she would get it. I think they have a greater understanding of the collective ways we can help society than most older people to be fair.

My children will not be having the covid vaccine.

I think the fact that there have been crazy anti-vax conspiracy theorists around for the last decade has muddied the waters, and made people think that any vaccine refusal is crazy. But there's a world of difference between the covid vaccines and others like measles.

Measles = seriously dangerous to children, often life-threatening; vaccine has been around for decades so its long-term effects are known

Covid = virtually no risk to children; brand new vaccine so long term effects are completely unknown

@sassbott

Nope. Not an anti vaxxer at any level.

1. My DC are not at risk of death etc if they catch covid
2. everyone who is being injected right now seems to ignore that these vaccines were fast tracked through under emergency measures and they are all in clinical trials until 2023. There is zero research/ knowledge on long term impact of these vaccines on the body/ fertility/ menstrual cycles (the list of potential risks is long)
3. MRNA vaccines are new technology. None of the vaccines use tried and tested methodology. Everyone being vaccinated is part of a mass trial. Absolutely fine for the vulnerable (and remember the rhetoric in Dec/ Jan was simply to vaccinate the vulnerable...why has that goalpost been continually moved?). But why should perfectly healthy people/ young people/ children be injected with a trial drug when their risk of death/ side effects is negligible.

What bothers me is not the fact that people want to curse me and call me names for my stance. But the fact that so many are blindly following a narrative that
A) makes absolutely no sense
B) willing to inject their children without proper data on the long term health risks of said drug.

Someone up thread asked about the difference between MMR vaccines and these? MMR vaccines had been through full and comprehensive trials. Those diseases can also cause blindness, infertility and a whole host of life threatening problems in children. Covid (thus far) has not.

None of this makes any sense and I cannot fathom why so many people are blindly following a narrative so that they can wear a badge of honour of ‘doing their bit.’

Well said! I thought I was going mad reading everyone saying they can’t wait for their teenagers to have it !

@Tubbs99 do you not think it benefits children to have the adults in their lives kept safe? Not hospitalised?

Adults like parents, teachers, grandparents?

Funny way to look at it.

[quote MilesJuppIsMyBitch]@Tubbs99 do you not think it benefits children to have the adults in their lives kept safe? Not hospitalised?

Adults like parents, teachers, grandparents?

Funny way to look at it.[/quote]
So give the vaccine to the parents, teachers and grandparents

@cocoloco987

So, if or when you prove to be wrong, @user1494055864, will you be coming on here to admit it?

To be fair if she's proved wrong then there's a very high likelihood she will still have a perfectly healthy dc who can then choose to take the vaccine if they want. I'd rather be proved wrong than right!

How will I be proved wrong?? Yellow card stats speak for themselves.

@everybodysang

While there are plenty of valid concerns and good, strong and interesting debate and thoughts on this thread, always worth remembering that not all who post with anti-vaccination sentiments do so in good faith.

I'm not anti vax. I'm anti coercion.

Just wondering whether those saying no because risk of Covid having significant effects on teens is low got their kids vaccinated with MMR and boys with HPV? Because as I understand it, rubella risk is largely to foetus if mother gets rubella when pregnant not to person themselves and significant HPV risk is mainly for women through cervical cancer (though some possible links with some other cancers that are rare but can affect men)? Yet most people get their DC vaccinated against those, as they protect others. So shouldn’t same apply for Covid? I understand the argument that it’s still under trial more though (but on balance will encourage mine to be vaccinated).

@MarshaBradyo

*And I can imagine sheep that have had the vaccine burying their head in the sand, and trusting the almighty politicians that they care about your long term health, and that the thousands of adverse reactions and ruined lives aren't really all that bad. WAKE UP*

Ha at these wake up posts. You and the other extreme should get together and shout wake up at each other. Leave the rest of us to it.

Calling me extreme for my perfectly valid views and implying we should be segregated, and MY reply gets deleted. Lol. Really mumsnet?!

@user1494055864
Yellow card data can't be used for 'stats' as it records adverse events only

@MarshaBradyo

*And I can imagine sheep that have had the vaccine burying their head in the sand, and trusting the almighty politicians that they care about your long term health, and that the thousands of adverse reactions and ruined lives aren't really all that bad. WAKE UP*

Ha at these wake up posts. You and the other extreme should get together and shout wake up at each other. Leave the rest of us to it.

That is because you have never had an adverse drug reaction, which ruined your life.... unlike me. And others.

I've no idea if one of mine has had his - should ask him really. Other one is 18 so can male his own mind up.

I've had both mine and the whole family have had Covid.

Calling me extreme for my perfectly valid views and implying we should be segregated, and MY reply gets deleted. Lol. Really mumsnet?!

I didn’t report you as I’m more bemused by those shouting moron online at people, but someone else likely did.

DS2 (16) is already double jabbed with Pfizer. Entirely his decision and he’s extremely happy. He’s advised his friends to consider getting them when they are eligible to do so

@sassbott what she said 👏🏻