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To ask how to be nicer? I’m a horrible person.

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Lj8893 · 01/06/2021 23:17

I’m not a nice person. I think I’m nice within my job, I work in a caring profession and go out of my way to support my clients. But my husband is always telling me I’m inconsiderate of his and others feelings, I’m rude and selfish. I don’t know why he is still with me because I’m obviously not making him happy.

He’s just been on another rant (he probably does this 4-6 weekly when he’s had a drink) about all the horrible things I’ve ever said or done to him and I just don’t know how I can be a nicer person. I can be quite blunt/direct and I’m not a naturally warm, soppy person.

The latest inconsiderate thing I’ve done was yesterday. I’d mentioned I wanted a new necklace and he decided to buy me one so showed it to me before ordering it, I said oh that’s really lovely but I need to check the length first before you order it. He said “go in on then” and I said (possibly a little snappy) “well I can’t right now!” As I was playing dinner up whilst hopping round the kitchen as I had just stubbed my toe!!
He has said I don’t realise and appreciate all the nice things he does for me, but I do!!

Sorry, it’s such a jumble of words. I just need to know how I can be a bit nicer?

OP posts:
MarshmallowAra · 02/06/2021 00:09

"Mr. Sensitive is the complete opposite of the Drill Sergeant. He is usually gentle, soft-spoken, and loves the language of feelings. He knows all the psychobabble about recovery, communication, and connection.

So what’s the problem here?

Mr. Sensitive believes that NOTHING is more important than his feelings. He is self-centered and demands a high level of emotional caretaking. He is so focused on how he feels that he can’t seem to see logic or reason.

When another’s feelings are hurt Mr. Sensitive wants to just brush over things quickly. He says things like “no one can hurt you unless you let them” or “Don’t hold on to negativity, just let it go!” These philosophies do NOT apply when his feelings are hurt, however.

Mr. Sensitive is constantly getting his feelings hurt, and he expects his partner’s attention to be constantly focused on his emotional injuries. A sincere apology isn’t enough when his feelings are hurt. He acts as if you have treated him with extreme cruelty and must grovel for his forgiveness.

Mr. Sensitive is not immune form physical abuse and cruelty, however. Because he is SO in tune with his feelings he also feels like he is entitled to give free reign to anger. After yelling, calling names, or physically assaulting his partner he then blames it on her for making him so angry.

Mr. Sensitive’s partner often starts out feeling like she’s made quite a catch. Society teaches men NOT to be in touch with their feelings. Finding a man who is happy to really be open about his emotions is a diamond in the rough. Why wouldn’t she love him?!

Soon she finds, however, that she seems to be constantly hurting his feelings. Usually she isn’t even sure why he is upset! No matter how hard she tries to say just the right thing he always hears it wrong. If she shows any “negative” emotion at all he quickly turns into the victim of her “irrational moods” or “overreacting”.

Mr. Sensitive’s partner quickly learns not to talk about her own feelings. She knows that he will either brush her off, leaving her feeling alone and invalidated, or he will be offended by her point of view. Somehow every conversation seems to twist around to his hurt feelings.

The chronic stuffing that is required to keep Mr. Sensitive happy is very unhealthy for his partner. She may find that her sadness, anger, resentment, etc. starts coming out sideways towards people who don’t deserve it. She’s like a volcano ready to explode on anyone who won’t, or can’t, retaliate.

If you look up to a man who is very open with his feelings take the time to observe his partner and friends. Does he give equal time to their feelings? Does he show concern for others, or does he brush them off? Does he utilize sound logical reasoning, or does he base his actions off emotion, even when they don’t make sense?

Remember not every abuser fits neatly into one package. You may know someone who has a few of these traits, but not all of them. You may know someone who has all of these traits, plus a few dozen more. The important part is to recognize the attitudes of abuse at work here."

MrsJackRackham · 02/06/2021 00:10

@Charles11 i agree. It's not what's being said it's how it's said. I have a very sharp tone (thanks mum Smile) and I have to check myself a lot. When I feel stressed or annoyed I just take a breath and be conscious of my tone.

Merryoldgoat · 02/06/2021 00:10

I’d bet a tenner you’re fine.

Charles11 · 02/06/2021 00:17

I do think most of us would be irritated if we’d come off a 14hr shift, trying to sort out dinner with a hurt toe while another adult was just arsing around looking at jewellery, demanding a response instead of helping.

CheesyCheddar17 · 02/06/2021 00:18

Do you have any other examples of your "horribleness", OP? Preferably not from your husband? I know you mentioned that your mother has commented on your forthrightness, but that doesn't actually make you a horrible person.

And in regards to dinner... Working in a caring profession is very emotionally draining, and even the most mild-mannered, soft-spoken person will find themselves a little terse at the end of a long day.

I also have issues with feeling personally slighted if someone's tone is a little abrupt, but it's unrealistic to assume that everyone will speak to you in bright, happy tones so you're 100% sure they're not in a huff with you. Yes, you could monitor how you speak to him so you're always chipper, but that isn't sustainable and at one point or another you're going to crack.

I'm a little concerned that he apparently makes a habit of berating you for every past mistake when he's drunk. Is he the sort that never lets you forget any wrongs, no matter how often you apologise?

EmeraldShamrock · 02/06/2021 00:21

Maybe you can be snappy at times with him, who wouldn't being in a relationship where he gets abusive.
Don't put up with his negative assassination on your personality, if there are parts you want to change work on them.
My Dsis is very cutting with words.
Overall he shouldn't be abusive under any circumstances.

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WinterSunglasses · 02/06/2021 00:34

I don’t know why he is still with me because I’m obviously not making him happy.

Maybe say this to him next time he starts on the chorus of how not nice you are. I'd be interested to see his reaction. Would bet on him suddenly backtracking. Lots of 'you just need to...'

CirqueDeMorgue · 02/06/2021 00:36

I feel as though you knew exactly what kind of responses you'd get here. 🤣

grapewine · 02/06/2021 01:09

Having a 'take no shit' attitude and not suffering fools should be applauded. I don't why that's seen as undesirable.

EmeraldShamrock · 02/06/2021 01:10

I have to remind myself that there's no reason to treat the people I love most WORSE than I'd treat my friends (I think it might be familiarity breeding contempt), Everyone is like that. My sisters and I are very nice however we snap easily at each other. DP is a softy too it can be frustrating I do remind myself to be nicer, life gets in the way.
Was your father hot headed or take advantage of your DM's nature? Mine did.
I think it's why I'm defensive although DP couldn't be more different.

CrazyCatsAndKittens · 02/06/2021 01:19

I think, as often happens, the first reply nailed it.

Does he care about your feelings? You must be exhausted. Have a think about what everyone has said.

katy1213 · 02/06/2021 01:22

Ranting - drinking - sulking about the past - and then playing the 'sensitive' card - he sounds a complete pain in the arse, I prefer you!

BigHeadBertha · 02/06/2021 01:27

I found it worrisome that your question was about how YOU could be nicer, when your husband apparently goes on regular drunken rants tearing you down.

Nobody deserves that and it is not necessary to be perfect yourself before demanding much, much better treatment than that. Please get away from him right away. It sounds very toxic.

AsWeKnowIt · 02/06/2021 01:28

Hey OP, I do actually have some advice about how to be nicer! Be less hard on yourself. I suspect you will roll your eyes on reading that, because it's advice I often received in the past but found rather hard to take. But all the people giving me that advice were right!

If you expect too much of yourself it communicates itself to other people too. Like in the scenario you described, if you felt completely relaxed and comfortable saying to your husband "I'll do it later" you wouldn't have felt any need to be snappy about it. IME that kind of snippiness comes from feeling like you're overburdened and don't have time and energy to spare, and if you feel that way it's ultimately because you're not living up to your own expectations. And then when your expectations are too high of yourself you wind up judging other people too for not living up to your standards.

As other people are pointing out your husband might be a big part of the problem. If he generally has very unreasonable expectations of you then you'll never be able to stop having unreasonable expectations of yourself.

But whatever the root of it is, I think if you're kinder to yourself, you'll be kinder to other people too. On a practical level, mindfulness based self-compassion is a great way of learning to be kind to yourself. I did a course in it which helped me a lot. Google "Kristen Neff TED talk" for the basics.

Italiangreyhound · 02/06/2021 01:29

Agree with RonSwansonsChair

"Not sure I voted the right way, but I don't think you need to be nicer- I think your husband could be nicer."

me4real · 02/06/2021 01:35

I think he's the one that's hard work @Lj8893 , telling you all the things you do wrong so often. He could effect your self-esteem.

A quality of not putting up with shit is a great quality to have- you could apply it to how he acts when he goes on one of these character assassinations, and tell him to stop it.

Anyone would be short if they'd just stubbed their toe- it's painful.

CrumpetyTea · 02/06/2021 01:54

Do you really think that you are inconsiderate of others feelings or is this just what other people have constantly told you?
You aren't reacting the way other people want you to- it doesn't mean that you are wrong - it may mean that they are wrong /too needy.

WrongWayApricot · 02/06/2021 02:23

The quicker people learn to not ask things when someone is obviously very busy, the sooner they won't get their feelings hurt.

thedogtookit · 02/06/2021 03:56

Op was that actually the necklace you even wanted? Because taking the choice away from you and demanding you attend to the purchase while you're busy isn't lovely, it's controlling. He has eyes, he can see you're busy. It sounds like he sets you up to fail.

You don't sound horrible. He sounds like a dickhead.

My mum says the same stuff to me too op. However she is a doormat and has spent her life in abusive relationships. I would rather take no shit than live my life pandering to shit men.

Myrighteyeball · 02/06/2021 04:39

OP, I am.exactly like you - trying to sound nicer. For me it's a problem of very rapid fire delivery which combines with a somewhat 'take no shit' attitude and a husband with executive processing issues engendering frequent frustration to make me sound mean sometimes.

I sought help from a psychologist about how to soften my delivery. She suggested:

  • taking a breath before speaking every time, with every one to whom I speak. I've been doing this for a week and it is becoming more habitual. V hard at first though.
  • thinking 'how can I sound more kind' before speaking again every time with everyone - often I can't sound more kind (ie my intended delivery is fine) but it is making me think
  • if he is annoying me/being unreasonable, name it kindly eg 'I'm busy cooking dinner right now so I can't look, we'll need to discuss it later'.

Your husband sounds like he is being an arse though listing your faults to you every day and interrupting like he is more important than anything, so if I were you I wouldn't bother with the above and would tell him to be nicer instead. Wink

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WanderingFruitWonderer · 02/06/2021 05:35

You don't sound horrible. The sheer fact that you're self-assessing, and wanting to be nice and good, shows that you are!
The people I worry about are the ones who think they're always in the right, and think everyone else is the problem.
We all need to regularly have a little look at ourselves, and try to be decent people. That's healthy. But none of us, not one, is perfect. Go easy on yourself, and you take care Flowers

Spermysextowel · 02/06/2021 05:40

It’s a step in the right direction that you know that you’re not always nice. As a PP said, take a deep breath & think before speaking. You’ve said you can’t/don’t know how to be more pleasant but there are probably online self-help resources that can help you with this.

AllAussieAdventures · 02/06/2021 05:50

I am not particularly 'nice'. Only women are ever expected to be nice.

If my husband behaved like yours, he wouldn't be my husband anymore.

One of the benefits of not being particularly nice is that you don't have to put up with people's bullshit.