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To think William and Kate are currently over exposed

331 replies

greenandpinkbudgie · 26/05/2021 20:20

Why do we need to keep seeing them everywhere? The more I see them trying to convey their perfect Boden lives the more I find it irritating. I think their PR people seem to have gone into overdrive

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derxa · 27/05/2021 11:50

@KeflavikAirport

the work they have to put in before visits

What work is that then, pray tell? Reading a two-page briefing in the car on the way there?

You seem to forget that they are going to visit people showing and talking about their life's work. A two page briefing isn't enough. I'm sure they have to do a bit of research as well and discuss that with aides. You have to engage with people in a genuine and interested way. That is a skill whether you like it or not. I follow a family on Twitter whose business Kate and William recently visited. Their comment was, 'What a well informed couple.'
Brownteddybear · 27/05/2021 12:01

It’s as if some posters are seeking out news about the Royals because they want to have a moan about them.

Exactly! I had no idea they were visiting Scotland so thanks OP for the info.These days we can all curate our own content by following or clicking where we want to know more. If they are "over exposed" you need to use the big off switch or click on different links. Of course, make sure you get a few jibes about them in on your thread whilst you're at it if it makes you feel better Hmm

KeflavikAirport · 27/05/2021 12:03

I very much doubt they’re doing their own research. They’re being spoonfed a few key details at most.

KeflavikAirport · 27/05/2021 12:04

I agree that being or at least seeming engaged and interested is a skill. What happens if we have a king one day who is cripplingly shy or has communication difficulties? One of the many reasons I think we should get rid of the whole lot of them.

derxa · 27/05/2021 12:08

@KeflavikAirport

I agree that being or at least seeming engaged and interested is a skill. What happens if we have a king one day who is cripplingly shy or has communication difficulties? One of the many reasons I think we should get rid of the whole lot of them.
We had one recently. George VI. He was seen as a good king.
KeflavikAirport · 27/05/2021 12:09

Not in the modern media fishbowl though. Don't you think it would be a cruel life for someone with autism for instance?

derxa · 27/05/2021 12:11

@KeflavikAirport

I very much doubt they’re doing their own research. They’re being spoonfed a few key details at most.
Really? How did the people I quoted think they were well informed then? Farmers who can't be doing with meaningless flannel.
mustlovegin · 27/05/2021 12:22

What happens if we have a king one day who is cripplingly shy or has communication difficulties? One of the many reasons I think we should get rid of the whole lot of them

So...you are proposing kicking someone out of a job because they may be shy. How kind and compassionate....

misspattylacosta · 27/05/2021 12:29

@mustlovegin

What happens if we have a king one day who is cripplingly shy or has communication difficulties? One of the many reasons I think we should get rid of the whole lot of them

So...you are proposing kicking someone out of a job because they may be shy. How kind and compassionate....

I think the issue is that we shouldn't inherit a King and have no say in it!

Why do we accept to be subjects and that our kids are born "subjects" today is beyond me.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 27/05/2021 12:30

Worth remembering, perhaps, that views of how the RF come across on visits are self-selecting by their very nature - after all those who question such things are maybe less likely to invite them in the first place

In fairness this works in reverse too, but some small and practised remark can easily be seen as the wisdom of Solomon if the listener's biased that way

KarensChoppyGob · 27/05/2021 12:37

The press are certainly playing the angle of the Evil Sussexes vs the Saintly Cambridges right now . And not for the first time.

Depends how much of an easily influenced muppet people are I suppose, when it comes to buying into it.

Recent politics will give a depressing clue when it comes to that.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 27/05/2021 12:40

George VI ... was seen as a good king

And yet it's been widely said that, even at that time, consideration was given to the succession passing to a brother better able to cope - except that there were issues with the others too

As Keflavik said things were very different back then, and what might have gone under the radar or remained unquestioned is much more likely to be commented on publicly now

Blossomtoes · 27/05/2021 12:55

@misspattylacosta

You said You cannot just "not click" on articles and pretend they don't exist. Of course you can, it’s the easiest thing in the world. I don’t click on articles about things that don’t interest me all the time.

OBVIOUSLY you can pretend they don't exist. You can also be blind to the government of your country and anything that happens in the world. Hmm
Unlike celebrities, you are still paying for them.

And very happy I am to pay for them too. Where do you think celebrities get their money from? Punters paying for their films/music/appearances is where. There are lots of things my taxes pay for that I don’t approve of, I just have to suck them up.
derxa · 27/05/2021 12:56

@Puzzledandpissedoff

Worth remembering, perhaps, that views of how the RF come across on visits are self-selecting by their very nature - after all those who question such things are maybe less likely to invite them in the first place

In fairness this works in reverse too, but some small and practised remark can easily be seen as the wisdom of Solomon if the listener's biased that way

Are you saying that my farmer friends are unquestioning royal lackeys? I doubt it very much.
Puzzledandpissedoff · 27/05/2021 12:59

Not at all, Derxa - I don't know your farmer friends so can't possibly say, which is why I referred to the principle rather than individuals

Port1aCastis · 27/05/2021 13:00

@KarensChoppyGob

The press are certainly playing the angle of the Evil Sussexes vs the Saintly Cambridges right now . And not for the first time.

Depends how much of an easily influenced muppet people are I suppose, when it comes to buying into it.

Recent politics will give a depressing clue when it comes to that.

Spot on. Agreed
mustlovegin · 27/05/2021 13:01

But they’re the main figure heads if the British Royal Family!! It’s their job to be PRd!! ...Like it or not, they’re part of an ancient tradition, most people love them and like following them, they do some good work and their job is to be constantly in the public eye

^This.

Your comments sound very destructive, bitter and uniformed OP.

Do you object to all PR, or just when it relates to the Royal Family?

Do you think that other celebrities (e.g. Greta et all) don't have a PR machine behind them too?

mustlovegin · 27/05/2021 13:05

Depends how much of an easily influenced muppet people are I suppose, when it comes to buying into it

There are no muppets. The working royals are bringing in money into the nation's coffers while others are in it for themselves. That's the difference

derxa · 27/05/2021 15:34

twitter.com/FarmersGuardian/status/1397908138209185793
Prince Charles calls for us to save the family farm
Meanwhile the government are trying their best to destroy them
That's why I support the royal family

the80sweregreat · 27/05/2021 15:39

They looked happy enough yesterday on those wind boat things ( or whatever they were ) actually care free having a bit of fun.
They will have much more to do now the other two have bailed out, so I guess we will see more of them both of them than ever before
They would be criticized if they didn't do any engagements.
I don't mind seeing Kate about to be honest, she seems pleasant enough. Charles and William I'm not overly fussed about ( there were pics of Charles yesterday planting hedges in an old coat that looked fit for the charity shop!)
It did make me smile.
Until we ever get rid of all of them, they are here to stay.

misspattylacosta · 27/05/2021 15:48

Blossomtoes

You can vote can't you? At least if you disagree with something, you have 1 voice. If the majority doesn't agree with you, then too bad, you need to work harder to convince them Grin

We haven't had a chance to vote. It's all well and good for some posters to go on about "most people like them", until we put it to the test, we won't know.

I think we should get rid of the royal and that would benefit the country, but at least I would agree to ask the majority.

CathyorClaire · 27/05/2021 16:10

The working royals are bringing in money into the nation's coffers

Can you provide a link to hard stats showing this?

WisconsinRaw · 27/05/2021 16:39

Are you saying that my farmer friends are unquestioning royal lackeys? I doubt it very much.

But they aren't your friends, are they? They're just "a family I follow on Twitter."

You're projecting an awful lot onto one single tweet. How can you tell what someone you've never met really think about the Cambridges based on five words tweeted from an account that exists to promote their farm business?

derxa · 27/05/2021 17:13

@WisconsinRaw

Are you saying that my farmer friends are unquestioning royal lackeys? I doubt it very much.

But they aren't your friends, are they? They're just "a family I follow on Twitter."

You're projecting an awful lot onto one single tweet. How can you tell what someone you've never met really think about the Cambridges based on five words tweeted from an account that exists to promote their farm business?

Where to start with this. First of all it wasn't a tweet. The family made a short video describing what a lovely day it was. Second famer Twitter accounts are usually just people chatting about their daily ups and downs not promotion of business. Usually talking about the lack of grass, lambing difficulties etc etc. Thirdly does it really matter.
Puzzledandpissedoff · 27/05/2021 17:17

Isn't it a little ironic that Charles is once again calling for farms to be preserved, when the Duchy challenged a ban on housing on just such land?

www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/jan/19/prince-charles-housing-bath-council