To think William and Kate are currently over exposed

[greenandpinkbudgie]

Why do we need to keep seeing them everywhere? The more I see them trying to convey their perfect Boden lives the more I find it irritating. I think their PR people seem to have gone into overdrive

Considering the new and little publicised deal is that the Sovereign Grant can only go up and never down, I'd be interested in what he plans to do with the money if this "slimming down" happens

Yep. The Soverign Grant won't fall in value however the Crown Estate performs financially. Even if the profits take say a £500M covid related hit it's not passed on to the royals. Unlike of course everyone else who just have to suck it up.

@misspattylacosta

Blossomtoes don't be goady, would save us a fortune for a start and the tourist industry will benefit massively too. Funny how revenues increase when tourist can actually (pay to) visit Palace and castles...

Care to let us know what benefit they actually bring the country if you are that keen on keeping them?
Why do we need an hereditary head of State in 2021?

Firstly I’m not being “goady”, I’m asking you to back up the assertion you’ve made twice that abolishing the monarchy would benefit the country.

Prince Charles has already said he plans to enlarge access to royal residences so that point’s already covered.

I think benefit wise the monarchy is pretty neutral. There’s no particular benefit to having one and we’d be no better off without one. What is very clear is that things associated with royalty give a lot people pleasure. That can only be a good thing, can’t it?

@PlanetOfTheApesLives

I see and hear more of the whinging little brother

Do you take everything you see and read in the press as Gospel?

Have you heard of critical thinking?

They are certainly seem to be appearing in thd press a lot more. Maybe since the privacy seeking LA royals are in our faces most days. So can't blame them.

They are certainly seem to be appearing in thd press a lot more. Maybe since the privacy seeking LA royals are in our faces most days. So can't blame them.

Again, it sounds like some posters seek the royals out just to moan that they see them too much! If you’re clicking on anything that talks about them surely you should know that they’re only going to come up again and again. If you don’t care, why continue to click on articles about them and then moan about overexposure? I highly doubt that most moaning about it hear about them constantly outside of the Internet.

Meghan - is that you?

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@jojogoesbust

Meghan - is that you?

Why do people think this is so clever?

They are certainly seem to be appearing in thd press a lot more.

of course, they are "back at work" after doing nothing for a year or so - apart from a token zoom interview, a photo op on the beach and an outing with the kids.

I think the most cringey moment was when they decided to join the "clapping for the NHS" on your doorstep BUT couldn't even be arsed to do it live and were the only one to send a pre-recorded video taken at least hours before 😂

Seriously, just.. why? It's not like "Norfolk" where they were supposed to be is on a different time zone.

Why do people think this is so clever?

It wasn't even funny when the first "Carole is that you?" first popped up when people were abusing Kate.

Paris and New York (for example) don't exactly suffer -touristically - from their lack of royals.

France, with its wealth of great and important old royal houses does suffer on that note , the only successful example is Versailles ,because of its history and Marie Antoinette. all the other royal houses are in dire state, there is very little money coming in,

Like the BR or not , they do bring in revenues, there are people willing to travel to the UK to see the Queen on trooping of the colour.

Paris's history and culture is only partially rooted in royalty. Just like any country there is far more to it than that. The Revolution, Napoleon, Hemingway's Rive Gauche, Fashion, fin-de-siecle Montmartre culture, the battlefields of the two world wars to cite just a few things from the top of my head.

Such a narrow view, to base a culture purely on its old royal houses.

You missed my point entirely, there are many historic French buildings that are not bringing in any revenues. No revenues meaning no job creation, meaning unemployment in specific areas.
I know people loath PC , but I think he made the area around Dumfries house prosper. I’ve never seen such an example in Europe. And I’ve been to many Royal houses with so much potential but there just isn’t any interest.

London will always be successful, but when the UK loses its royal Family , there will be a huge loss to many Royal related establishment.

I don't think for one minute people will suddenly stop wanting to visit stately homes, palaces and the like. Revenue will always be accrued there, see the National Trust.

I don't loathe PC either. He can't help what he was born into but I do think the RF are becoming increasingly redundant and that doesn't surprise me.

karen no people won’t suddenly stop, but numbers will go significantly down.

In April 2011 and May 2018 there was an increase in tourists in these specific months, because of the Royal weddings . I think Windsor castle got a higher number of visitors in 2019 too because of H&M , Anglesey benefited from W&K stay.
Royals do get a lot of attention and there are lots of die hard fans wanting to go and see where they live , lived.
And I see kates pink Me&eM dress is SO today.

These are all little things but they do add up, and just proves that Royals do indeed bring in money.

karen no people won’t suddenly stop, but numbers will go significantly down.

in the future possibly, but not for a long time.
People are still obsessed with Diana.

The celebrity effect won't disappear, at most the attention will go onto someone else, it's the so-called official role for the nation that is redundant.

they do bring in revenues

Can we please have a link to how much?

Third time asking. I'm hoping for third time lucky.

it's the so-called official role for the nation that is redundant

The official role isn’t redundant. I’ve borrowed this from another thread, the article explains exactly why.

This article came up on a news feed. I wouldn’t normally quote GQ, but I thought this was an interesting read. Before anyone gets the arse that it’s anti Harry and Meghan, if you read it, it actually provides some insight into why the monarchy still survives today. I will warn that there is the odd side swipe at the Sussexes as a disclaimer, but on the whole it focuses on the monarchy as a whole which is why I am posting it.

www.gq-magazine.co.uk/politics/article/meghan-harry-royal-family

Thanks @smilesy 🙂

Can we please have a link to how much? Third time asking. I'm hoping for third time lucky

Save your breath, CathyorClaire; it's no more than a verbal tic really, often spouted without very much thought, never mind evidence - though one the RF must love hearing repeated so often

Here you go. Whether it’s accurate or nor, who knows?

brandfinance.com/wp-content/uploads/1/brand_finance_monarchy_press_release.pdf

so basically we are keeping the Monarchy because we can't be arsed.

[quote Blossomtoes]Here you go. Whether it’s accurate or nor, who knows?

brandfinance.com/wp-content/uploads/1/brand_finance_monarchy_press_release.pdf[/quote]
well, adding estates and assets like the Crown Jewels to their actual value is debatable... When the Monarchy is finally abolished, the royals are not going to pocket those are they!

and shops like Harrods didn't seem to have suffer too much following the removal of the "royal warrant".

@misspattylacosta

so basically we are keeping the Monarchy because we can't be arsed.

This isn’t can’t be arsed, is it?

To abolish the monarchy would require (in the absence of a national collapse) a political party prepared to stand on a promise of a referendum. That promise would consume every other policy or idea in the programme to the point that it would become a single-issue party. If by some miracle that party got into power the build-up and fallout of the referendum would then consume the entire life of that government and beyond. Winning would be worse than losing, since then you’d have to go through with the damned thing, disentangling the monarchy from the state, the armed forces, the church and every other aspect of British life You could certainly argue that would be a good thing, but, to borrow a line from The Eagle Has Landed, it would make the Charge Of The Light Brigade look like a sensible military exercise. It would be like a version of Brexit in which Britain decided to leave Britain. It would be the lifetime’s work of millions

Brand consultancy in bigging up brand to promote their own services shocker.

I'm in Scotland and have had a surfeit of them as there seem to be photos and fawning coverage of them everywhere you look. Not sure it is actually working PR-wise though up here - probably helping the drive towards republicanism as far as I can see. And why exactly do they have to be clad in tartan when they come here? We don't all wear it up here all the time .

Nothing against them personally but surely it is time we stopped scraping and bowing to people as if they were our betters, and surely it is time to let them do something more fulfilling than uttering platitudes to people in the crowds and smiling for cameras?