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If you hate your job

218 replies

Redsunrise · 25/05/2021 16:02

Can I ask what you do?

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yellowspot · 27/05/2021 11:53

@menomary

Adults social worker. Stressed, overloaded, deal with safeguardings on a daily basis. Management don't care about our wellbeing and keep throwing cases at us as they have their own targets to fulfil. They are quick to put the boot in when things go wrong so their job is protected. Amount of paperwork is ridiculous. Daily verbal abuse from families who think it's our fault the LA charges for social care or that just because they're the daughter or son they can't bung their mum into a care home.
Fellow AS social worker here! Just moved from older adults to PD. It's not much better Sad
PyjamaFan · 27/05/2021 13:50

Being able to go to the loo when I want to is a massive factor in me leaving teaching. If I'm on playground duty then I can't go from between 8.30 and 12 so on these days I don't drink tea or coffee. In the afternoon I can't go from 12.45 until 3.30 or even longer if any parents are late or want to talk to me. One of these days I'm actually going to wet myself.

fruityorange · 27/05/2021 13:56

I have a bladder of steel since working in a nursery. People have commented when we could only meet outside that they were amazed I had not been to the toilet. I don't think anyone had noticed before. Four hours is fine.
I have actually been amazed during lockdown how many people on MN say they can't manage to go outside for an hour without a toilet visit. That must affect your quality of life.

Letsallscreamatthesistene · 27/05/2021 13:58

@fluffysocksgoodbookwine

Another GP here. 12 hour day yesterday, mostly (>60%) speaking to people having mental health crises, yet still expected to deal with it all in 10 minute intervals. I was absolutely exhausted by 2pm, and then carried on for another 6 hours. I stopped when I could no longer focus on the computer screen, not because the work was done.

I'm lucky to have great colleagues, and I want to be able to provide a good service for our patients, but I've already burned out (in another, chronically understaffed, practice pre-pandemic), and I can feel myself sliding back into that feeling. I'm back to waking up at 4am every morning, worrying about what I've missed/ done wrong due to the overwhelming amount of work. We're all struggling with the ongoing tsunami of (appropriate) healthcare demand.

I am sick to death of hearing 'GPs aren't seeing anyone' (especially from hospital staff who should really bloody know better) when I'm making 150-200 clinical decisions per day (telephone, F2F, e-consults, non-routine prescription requests, abnormal blood results, other staff's queries). All the straightforward/routine stuff is dealt with by ANPs/Pharmacists/ Practice Nurses, so the cases I see are largely really complicated or potentially serious.
I would love to see more than the 40-50% F2F I'm currently seeing, as I find it much easier to clinically assess in person, but there simply isn't space in the building to socially distance with any more patients.

Our practice took 14,000 incoming calls in March '21. We have approximately 20,000 registered patients. There was a 4-6 hour call queue at some points. Many of these patients are genuinely very unwell, and waiting lists for everything, from surgery, to physio, to mental health services, are so long as to make referrals meaningless. On top of this, hospitals are pushing a lot of un-funded work into primary care, lots of 'can the GP please...' in the discharge or clinic letter, particularly when outpatient clinics are happening by phone. When we say that the workload in general practice is unmanageable, this is what we mean.

I also do shifts as a primary care Dr in a city centre A&E. It's very busy, but nowhere near as complex, or as clinically risky, as a GP day. When GPs direct people to A&E after a telephone call, it's because we simply cannot see all of them, so we have to manage the clinical risk as best we can, by sending in the people who are going to need intervention in order to find out the problem. Remember that we have no same day bloods/imaging, and it's very easy to say there wasn't much wrong with a patient once you've got normal bloods and XRs, and have observed them for a couple of hours. For every person that we send in, there are dozens more that we are dealing with in the community. People also often lie about having spoken to their GP, or exaggerate their symptoms on the phone so that they're dealt with quicker. We can't be held responsible for this.

General Practice has been underfunded, understaffed and haemorrhaging clinicians for over a decade now. We get the same money as A&E gets for two patient attendances, to provide unlimited access to a patient for a whole year. The average number of GP consultations (pre-pandemic) per person per year in England was 6. In our practice (deprived area) it was 7.5. That's actual consultations, so not counting all the background admin, prescribing, dealing with correspondence etc.

Anyway, I'm ranting now, so will stop. Suffice to say, the GP bashing from all sides is affecting morale in the face of overwhelming workload, and we will lose even more GPs before this is over.

Not a GP, but a practice nurse. In my area theres a big drive to rejuvenate practice nursing, theres a big drive to get 'younger' nurses into it. Nearly every practice I see advertising jobs is because they're expanding staff due to patient load, not because someone has left the job. Its a service pushed to the brink of functionality.
ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 27/05/2021 14:11

Secondary school teacher in an outstanding school. Hated hated hated hated it. The relentless drive to improve, inspections, observations. The 5% that involves teaching kids was great. The rest is just soul destroying. Full of jumped up arseholes age about 20 in charge of senior staff telling them what do do. God it was awful🤮🤮🤮🤮

*RosaBudDrood
I've been thinking of primary teaching ...

What's so wrong with it nowaday*

Someone on here described teaching as like being in an abusive relationship. I understand primary is worse than secondary. Full of people creating stupid amounts of workload and reinventing the wheel🤮

schofieldsunderpants · 27/05/2021 14:39

@fruityorange

I have a bladder of steel since working in a nursery. People have commented when we could only meet outside that they were amazed I had not been to the toilet. I don't think anyone had noticed before. Four hours is fine. I have actually been amazed during lockdown how many people on MN say they can't manage to go outside for an hour without a toilet visit. That must affect your quality of life.
Yes! I actually haven't been since 8am (not a good thing!) and have just got in from a morning shift. I'm just used to it! My DH is usually an office working person and now currently at home. He is forever going to the bathroom, I'm not kidding he easily goes every 2 hours! So he's now taught his bladder that it can't wait!
lovablequalities · 27/05/2021 14:56

Secondary teacher. Love the kids and my subject but my boss is awful, the workload is insane and it's just not fun. At my last school there was good craic and that pulled you through but in this place it's grim. I regularly fantasise about getting ill and not having to go in or answer endless emails. I've done shit jobs before so I know nowhere is perfect but fucking hell I hate my workplace.

Rosebel · 27/05/2021 18:24

I think I'd like my job more if I didn't have such a horrible team leader. He actually made me cry yesterday (not in front of him, wouldn't give him the satisfaction).
I have had conversations with him before about not rushing too much as it could actually kill me but he still gave me grief. Said he's getting occupational health involved now.
Don't actually care anymore. Job is making me fucking ill and I took it because it's supposed to be low stress.
Want to go back to nursery nursing or actually any other fucking job. Don't mind most of the customers and get on with the other staff. I can do the job but apparently not quickly enough. Off tomorrow thank goodness. Back in Saturday, I really hope that's his day off.

WhySoSensitive · 27/05/2021 18:54

@LindyLou2020

I commented a little later basically saying it’s rude and ungrateful clients. We’re expected to go above and beyond, sometimes what we’re even capable of.
for example a dog recently had died because his owner let him eat lots of sticks. He had massive infection and died and the owners came home and found him, they brought him to me stiff as a board and I said I was sorry but he had already passed away and there was nothing I could do. He verbally abused me, told me I was shit at my job if I couldn’t even save his dog who (at this point) ‘was fit and healthy this morning’ even though he was stone cold and rock solid.
This client wasn’t happy I couldn’t save his dog and reported me to the RCVS for improper behaviour and a list of other complaints. He also slattered my practice name and my name all over social media telling people I put his dog to sleep because I want caring enough to help him.

That, sadly is a regular occurrence. I’ve given up trying to help those who feel entitled. This case - grief does weird things to people, but that excuse can’t be used for every client who’s awful and there unfortunately is more than a handful every week who behave similar.
I left work daily wondering what I did to deserve such horrible clients, rarely experienced lovely ones in recent years.

MurryFuff · 27/05/2021 20:16

@Rosebel

I think I'd like my job more if I didn't have such a horrible team leader. He actually made me cry yesterday (not in front of him, wouldn't give him the satisfaction). I have had conversations with him before about not rushing too much as it could actually kill me but he still gave me grief. Said he's getting occupational health involved now. Don't actually care anymore. Job is making me fucking ill and I took it because it's supposed to be low stress. Want to go back to nursery nursing or actually any other fucking job. Don't mind most of the customers and get on with the other staff. I can do the job but apparently not quickly enough. Off tomorrow thank goodness. Back in Saturday, I really hope that's his day off.

What is it that you do now if you are a Nursery Nurse?

Interested as I am a trained nursery nurse ( over 24 years qualified ) and now am
a childcare assessor that I fucking hate. Have been a nursery manager. Hated that as well.

I want to get into a school. This thread is kind of skewing that idea as so many people say being a TA is awful.

Rosebel · 27/05/2021 21:00

I work in a supermarket at the moment and it's absolutely soul destroying (and not low stress).
I was considering becoming a TA but have been a bit put off now. I know nursery nursing is a lot of paper work now but would still love to go back. Not sure I'd like being a manager though.

MurryFuff · 27/05/2021 21:31

@Rosebel

I work in a supermarket at the moment and it's absolutely soul destroying (and not low stress). I was considering becoming a TA but have been a bit put off now. I know nursery nursing is a lot of paper work now but would still love to go back. Not sure I'd like being a manager though.

Bless you. It sounds horrible. I would think about going back to nursery I nursing if I were you - hopefully you'll get into a nice setting with a good team. I know there's loads of paperwork now though so I do get that . Nursery manager is a shit job- I hated it.
The TA role I would love to do and know I would be great at it but like you I am a bit put off by it.

Best of luck to you Thanks

LindyLou2020 · 27/05/2021 22:34

[quote WhySoSensitive]@LindyLou2020

I commented a little later basically saying it’s rude and ungrateful clients. We’re expected to go above and beyond, sometimes what we’re even capable of.
for example a dog recently had died because his owner let him eat lots of sticks. He had massive infection and died and the owners came home and found him, they brought him to me stiff as a board and I said I was sorry but he had already passed away and there was nothing I could do. He verbally abused me, told me I was shit at my job if I couldn’t even save his dog who (at this point) ‘was fit and healthy this morning’ even though he was stone cold and rock solid.
This client wasn’t happy I couldn’t save his dog and reported me to the RCVS for improper behaviour and a list of other complaints. He also slattered my practice name and my name all over social media telling people I put his dog to sleep because I want caring enough to help him.

That, sadly is a regular occurrence. I’ve given up trying to help those who feel entitled. This case - grief does weird things to people, but that excuse can’t be used for every client who’s awful and there unfortunately is more than a handful every week who behave similar.
I left work daily wondering what I did to deserve such horrible clients, rarely experienced lovely ones in recent years.[/quote]
@WhySoSensitive.....
Thanks for enlightening me. I'm genuinely extremely surprised, horrified and shocked, and also angry on your behalf Flowers
On paper, being a vet or veterinary nurse would appear to be, (to the uninitiated like me), a demanding but rewarding job.
You live and learn.....

Pinktruffle · 27/05/2021 23:22

Student welfare in a secondary school. I hate hate hate dealing with parents, some are so rude and treat us like shit, I've lost count of the amount of times I've been sworn at and verbally abused. My school also expect us to do everything and dont even give us time to have a lunch break (we get told we must take one but are not given any actual time to take it). Sometimes I think I'd be able to stomach it more if the pay were a bit better but I think I would need another 10k to actually feel like my job was worth the headache and no one is going to pay non-teachers in a school the best part of 40k.

Carrotcakeforbreakfast · 27/05/2021 23:47

Radiographer/sonographer.
I just left the trust I worked for since I was 25. It was so toxic, beyond stupid manager, bullying and favouritism rife. Incredibly busy and more recently heartbreaking.

So I joined a new trust. Less acute.
Still hate it.
And I've decided something has changed and I no longer want to work clinically.
I spend my days off crying at the drop of a hat and feel on edge.

Thing is I'm not even sure what else I can do or what else I would like to do.
I think I would be happy to retire but I have 20 years left.

Carbara · 27/05/2021 23:53

I walk over ten miles a day for work, it’s awful, managers don’t give a fuck and have no idea what they’re doing, yet rake their salaries in.

Previously hated my last jobs, getting treated like vermin by the general public, in inhumane conditions for poverty wages. Yay, capitalism.

fluffysocksgoodbookwine · 28/05/2021 21:38

@Carrotcakeforbreakfast
I was just like that when burned out (and again just recently). Flowers
www.burnoutgeese.com/

Carrotcakeforbreakfast · 28/05/2021 22:09

@fluffysocksgoodbookwine I just did the test and scored 56. So yeah burnout is so high.
It is shocking as I feel like I've lost all empathy with my patients too. I'm usually the opposite of that.
I wonder if it is a coping mechanism as a result of the last year maybe.

I've today applied for another job out of the clinical setting. I have everything crossed and maybe one day I can return to the job I loved for ages.

Thank you for the link. Going to have a good read. Flowers

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