To think the UK should not fund the Eurovision Song Contest?

[NowIsTheSpringOfOurDiscontent]

Or bother entering obviously.

It’s a humiliation and everyone hates us so we hardly get any votes. None this year due to Brexit and the Covid vaccine probably.

Poor James . He certainly didn’t deserve NIL points!

[quote CynsterBitch]@ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere

Norway and Switzerland aren’t in the EU, but don’t worry your comment would still be ridiculous if they were.
The song was crap, that’s why no one voted. Politicians in some countries might be annoyed about Brexit etc, but I have yet to hear anything to indicate that the ‘regular man in the European street’ gives a 💩[/quote]
As opposed to Australia, Russia and Israel which definitely still are, right?

Interesting point about European immigrants voting for their home country from abroad. That’s probably one strength the UK lacks as well.
I'm a British immigrant living in the EU and could have voted for the UK. I didn't as I thought it was just not good. The Eurovision has upped its game in the last few years and it's not just about the song - it's also the staging, the spectacle. The UK entry was just boring. Plus, a lot of the other songs are well-known already - the Italian song is always whoever won the San Remo song contest a few months back - and lots of Europeans actually listen to music from different countries which helps the popular vote.

[quote CynsterBitch]**@ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere

Norway and Switzerland aren’t in the EU, but don’t worry your comment would still be ridiculous if they were.
The song was crap, that’s why no one voted. Politicians in some countries might be annoyed about Brexit etc, but I have yet to hear anything to indicate that the ‘regular man in the European street’ gives a 💩[/quote]
None of those countries @ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere listed are in the EU, I think that's the joke .

Apart from that I couldn't agree more, no one gives you a second thought, least of all at this competition.

[quote littlepattilou]@Morgoth

Exactly. People are acting like we are putting forward Led Zeppelin each year and still getting zero points. Even our terrible songs are worse than the most terrible songs of other countries. The songs we put forward don’t even do well on our own top 40 charts with our own natives.

Oh come OFF it. As a pp said, even if we put Ed Sheeran, Adele, or Paul McCartney up there, they'd still give us fuckall points. It's purely political, and it's pathetic.

We left the EU, and we have vaccinated tens of millions more citizens than them, with the covid vaccine. They need to deal with it and get over it, and stop being so mean and petty towards us.[/quote]
Crikey, the thick's big in you, isn't it?
(As well as the xenophobia and superiority obvs)

@Montalbanosono

Interesting point about European immigrants voting for their home country from abroad. That’s probably one strength the UK lacks as well. I'm a British immigrant living in the EU and could have voted for the UK. I didn't as I thought it was just not good. The Eurovision has upped its game in the last few years and it's not just about the song - it's also the staging, the spectacle. The UK entry was just boring. Plus, a lot of the other songs are well-known already - the Italian song is always whoever won the San Remo song contest a few months back - and lots of Europeans actually listen to music from different countries which helps the popular vote.

Traitor! To the gallows with you.

Oh come OFF it. As a pp said, even if we put Ed Sheeran, Adele, or Paul McCartney up there, they'd still give us fuckall points. It's purely political, and it's pathetic

We left the EU, and we have vaccinated tens of millions more citizens than them, with the covid vaccine. They need to deal with it and get over it, and stop being so mean and petty towards us

Awwwww Diddum's!! Come 'ere and have a hug!

Or do you want Vinegar with that chip on your shoulder?

Countries not in EU didn't give us any points either, neither did the public vote... Get over yourself.

The diaspora factor is enough to get you a fair few votes but not enough on it’s own to get you into the top ten.

In the days when Turkey was an entrant they’d always get a solid telephone vote from the gastarbeiters (sp?) in Austria and Germany, and the UK telephone vote normally gives a decent vote for Poland if they’re performing, regardless of merit. There are a surprisingly large number of Lithuanians in the UK too, and if you look back at our votes over the past ten years I think they probably have picked up the phone in significant numbers to sway the score. Hard to say whether it’s had an impact this year though, because Lithuania’s performance was precisely tuned to appeal to the UK Eurovision fan base anyway. I certainly voted for them.

The reason we don't have good entries anymore is that nobody half decent would be willing to do it as it is a career killer. We would never win, even if we sent Ed Sheeran in the body of the latest teen heart-throb. With that in mind I do think it is getting a big of a joke now and we should just not be one of the big five. We would never get through the heats then, so don't have to suffer the embarrassment.

Alternatively, we should just make the most of funding it and send someone in dressed as a goat to burp down the microphone, do a mic drop and walk off stage with their arse hanging out. I'm sure they would refuse the money after that.

we have vaccinated tens of millions more citizens than them, with the covid vaccine

We beat them hands down on the death rate too.. they must be soooo furious that they couldn't even kill more than we have with the UKs early adoption of the Herd Immunity plan.

@ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere

Sorry I saw Norway, and then (being Norwegian) didn’t really read the other names. We are are fairly self absorbed people/country.

If we stopped the funding we'd never get into the contest, ( could be a good or bad thing depending on your point of view).
Our entry was rubbish - a boring song, a bad singer and a truly criminal coat. there's a reason some people write songs for other people but don't sing them themselves.
I personally think Ukraine should have won, but Italy's lead singer grabbed a few votes by going commando under leather dungarees.

This thread is bonkers.
We send crap songs that aren't in the spirit of Eurovision, because culturally we are so far removed from our European neighbours that we just don't get what makes a winning song.

OP, send me your address, I'll send you the £0.0008. As PPs have pointed out, it's actually a great price for the BBC to get such a huge night of entertainment. The fact that 5 countries pay in allows other countries to participate who might not otherwise be able to. That is the spirit of Eurovision.

@Montalbanosono

Interesting point about European immigrants voting for their home country from abroad. That’s probably one strength the UK lacks as well. I'm a British immigrant living in the EU and could have voted for the UK. I didn't as I thought it was just not good. The Eurovision has upped its game in the last few years and it's not just about the song - it's also the staging, the spectacle. The UK entry was just boring. Plus, a lot of the other songs are well-known already - the Italian song is always whoever won the San Remo song contest a few months back - and lots of Europeans actually listen to music from different countries which helps the popular vote.

Well yeah but that’s you. The number of UK immigrants in Europe is vanishingly small compared with some other countries. And a lot of those people will vote for their country’s song out of loyalty regardless of whether or not it’s any good whereas UK people, as you have demonstrated, will not.

I never watch it but I just googled and watched his performance. It was awful and he did look like he was dressed in a bin bag.

@AngeloMysterioso

Interesting point about European immigrants voting for their home country from abroad. That’s probably one strength the UK lacks as well.

Because the UK fields shit songs. I'm a brit abroad but I'm still not voting for the UK song, I'll vote for the one I think is best.

Eurovision was intended to promote European Unity etc. That boat has sailed with Brexit and the UK treating Visitors from Europe abismally so I see not reason to continue with this expensive charade. Give it away.

Apparently Bill Bailey wants to do the next one lol

We left the EU, and we have vaccinated tens of millions more citizens than them, with the covid vaccine. They need to deal with it and get over it, and stop being so mean and petty towards us.

I’m not sure what vaccination has to do with it, I acknowledge pleasure that I am vaccinated, but......it’s foolhardy and inaccurate to believe that we are doing better than anyone else. Of the EU nations, Italy, Germany and Greece have higher percentages of people vaccinated currently. Italy and Germany are vaccinating more people each day.

France is swiftly moving up the tables. Outside of EU, there are nations with significantly more successful programmes.

I suspect you believe India has the highest mortality rate too? (clue; it doesn’t, it is still has a much lower mortality that U.K.).

I didn’t watch the show but I did hear the UK song on the radio and thought it was very forgettable.

Sorry but I think this year it’s definitely the song.

Agreed. I've been saying the same thing for years. Even prior to Brexit, the hostility towards the UK meant that we could never win, even if we had the best song by a mile

When in the last two decades have we had a song at Eurovision that was “the best song by a mile”????? I’m struggling to even think of a year when we had a song that was even good enough of being in the top 50%

Well he won Strictly...

Take Oti along to pick up some German votes, talk about his rescue parakeets a bit and play a variety of instruments during the song. Maybe do a bit of paso or street dance. What's not to like?

@FatCatThinCat see my post a couple above yours.

@DogInATent

Nine pages and no one's yet mentioned that Amanda Holden's contribution probably guarantees zero points next year too?

I mentioned it round about page 3

It was a shit song and it was EASILY the worst presented.

Some fat bloke from down the pub dressed in... fucking whatever he was wearing dancing like a 90 year old and singing out of key.

But sure, he didn't get any points because of vaccines

Actually in the past I think the UK were the recipients of over-voting by the juries. Songs like the execrable Long Live Love sing by ONJ were highly placed and were crap. Yet the juries gave it points.

It's the move towards greater televoting that has done for big countries putting in shitty little songs. There's nowhere to hide, certainly not under the skirts of jury members who felt some kind of obligation to a major EBU donor.