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Eurovision

227 replies

Sometimeswinning · 22/05/2021 23:06

I dont know why I'm watching it! It needs to go really. How are we behind Israel? They're not even Europe!

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SchrodingersImmigrant · 24/05/2021 10:07

How can you say we don't know how it worked out yet when it was proven to be a lie to get votes😱

ElspethFlashman · 24/05/2021 10:16

As an Irish person I'm bemused by the idea we should give the UK votes for the shittiest song in the competition.

He seemed like a lovely guy but he was breathless from Note 1, the song was utter bilge, the staging was appalling (trumpets whilst he stood still?) and he looked like he was on his way to an illegal dog fight.

And then Amanda came on and in my living room we just gasped at how ugly it was for her to play her Little Englander act.

QuentininQuarantino · 24/05/2021 10:26

God Amanda was excruciating to watch, what a representative Blush

HeyDemonsItsYaGirl · 24/05/2021 10:34

AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken You've misread Schrodinger's tone. Just let it go.

youshallnotpass9 · 24/05/2021 10:38

@flinginflangin

But over the past few years the message has become clear it's not about who has the best and worse song anymore.
Who had a worst song than the UK this year?
youshallnotpass9 · 24/05/2021 10:40

I am also fairly sure that Amanda Holden has deleted her tweet about Eurovision, probably because of the comments.

DynamoKev · 24/05/2021 10:41

But over the past few years the message has become clear it's not about who has the best and worse song anymore.

Who had a worst song than the UK this year?

WTF is going on with people reversing the meanings of worse and worse? Where is this coming from?

DynamoKev · 24/05/2021 10:41

Worse and worst of course.

AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 24/05/2021 10:48

@HeyDemonsItsYaGirl

AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken You've misread Schrodinger's tone. Just let it go.
The tone was smug and sneery.
AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 24/05/2021 10:50

@DynamoKev

Worse and worst of course.
I think it’s because e and t are quite close on keyboards so if you land somewhere on the r the phone decides for you. Or are you hearing it spoken that way too, like with genuinely and generally?
Oysterbabe · 24/05/2021 10:53

@DynamoKev

But over the past few years the message has become clear it's not about who has the best and worse song anymore.

Who had a worst song than the UK this year?

WTF is going on with people reversing the meanings of worse and worse? Where is this coming from?

I guess from the same typo that you made?
youshallnotpass9 · 24/05/2021 10:55

@DynamoKev

Because I wasn't concentrating and I am shit at spelling. Hold my hands up to that

SchrodingersImmigrant · 24/05/2021 10:56

The tone was smug and sneery.

The only sneery tone here is yours.

AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 24/05/2021 10:57

@SchrodingersImmigrant

The tone was smug and sneery.

The only sneery tone here is yours.

You’re perfectly entitled to that opinion
WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 24/05/2021 11:36

Another thing I think people are completely missing is that it is in our British character to criticise and laugh at ourselves. Very commonly, we (the English especially) will mock and downplay ourselves and see pride as a bit of a 'silly foreigners' thing, unless it's anything to do with the royal family or war commemorations.

If I'm understanding this correctly, millions of us are saying how rubbish OUR OWN entry was - and yet we're highly miffed that other nations without any link to our entry are also demonstrating their (not unfair) floccinaucinihilipilification.

Be honest, even if they changed the rules to allow you to vote for your own country - 65million or more people is one of the very biggest populations.... but how many of us would actually have done so?

Brit: "I cannot believe how appallingly, cringe-makingly, pathetically, terribly useless we are at XXXX. We're an absolute disgrace and should be thoroughly ashamed of ourselves."
Forriner: "Well, I think that there may be some other countries that make more of an effort and do this particular thing to a slightly higher standard than you do, on this occasion at least."
Brit: "HOW DARE YOU?!?!?!?!?! DON'T YOU KNOW WHO WE ARE?!?!?!?!?!"

AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 24/05/2021 11:41

“floccinaucinihilipilification”
Oh excellent word! Thank you for introducing it to me 😃

debwong · 24/05/2021 11:46

I don't think the UK music industry has anything to worry about from the goings-on at Eurovision!

Definately · 24/05/2021 11:50

@ElspethFlashman

As an Irish person I'm bemused by the idea we should give the UK votes for the shittiest song in the competition.

He seemed like a lovely guy but he was breathless from Note 1, the song was utter bilge, the staging was appalling (trumpets whilst he stood still?) and he looked like he was on his way to an illegal dog fight.

And then Amanda came on and in my living room we just gasped at how ugly it was for her to play her Little Englander act.

Howling with laughter at 'an illegal dog fight' Grin I have just rewatched it and that's exactly what it looks like! The guy seems lovely and the song is nice enough but it definitely wasn't Eurovision material.

ScribblingPixie · 24/05/2021 11:55

I think our effort and commitment are really poor - these days it's a serious competition albeit with inbuilt irony & fun. Look at Iceland's entry. Whether you liked it or not, not only was it good quality, interesting subject written sincerely but everything about the staging was hugely creative and had obviously taken a huge amount of work. Image, costumes, choreography, specially designed computer game backdrop, even the pause with the pose at the end followed by surprise fireworks. They'd even recruited a virtual choir over the internet. We put in about 1 per cent of that effort.

dayswithaY · 24/05/2021 12:01

Not a fan of Ulrika, but I remember she did the scores or announcements or something one year and she spoke about four different languages, very proficiently. Instead, we get Holden making an ass out of us all.

We will never do well at Eurovision because we treat it like a joke and everyone knows this. I love Graham Norton's commentary but I bet we are the only country in the competition to dedicate a whole night to bitchy comments and sneering at all the silly people who seem to be having fun. I don't think we understand fun.

I think Germany were robbed - if their act isn't pure Eurovision, I don't know what is.

TheoMeo · 24/05/2021 12:12

There were how many countries taking part ?70 - really no one much cares how other countries do- I'm an oldie and Italy's 'rock' song was pretty crap ( thinking back to deep purple, black sabbath etc etc etc) but I spose it's a new sound to younger people who vote - but their outfit was ridiculous.
Who care, it's a bit of fun once a year.

DynamoKev · 24/05/2021 12:15

@ElspethFlashman

As an Irish person I'm bemused by the idea we should give the UK votes for the shittiest song in the competition.

He seemed like a lovely guy but he was breathless from Note 1, the song was utter bilge, the staging was appalling (trumpets whilst he stood still?) and he looked like he was on his way to an illegal dog fight.

And then Amanda came on and in my living room we just gasped at how ugly it was for her to play her Little Englander act.

As with a PP just had to say thank you for the illegal dog fight comment - that is comedy gold.
QuentininQuarantino · 24/05/2021 13:06

I was about to disagree @dayswithaY as Spain takes the proverbial and has a sarcastic comedian doing the commentary but then they always do terribly too! I’m half British half Spanish so awful luck for me, I still love it though!

mathanxiety · 25/05/2021 05:42

It's just a big political game now. It's fun for everyone to give the UK nil points, the real spirit of the contest ended years ago.

Nobody gives the UK nil points.

National juries give competitors other than the UK the points they believe they deserve. The options are 12-10-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1. So ten of the entries are awarded points by any given country. All of the rest get 'nil points' by default. The UK jury awarded points according to this rubric too. The UK left sixteen countries out when it awarded points.

The idea that the entire voting public in places as far apart in terms of culture and politics as Georgia, Norway, Malta, Bulgaria, Lithuania and Iceland all hate Britain, all hate Brexit, and all have it in for every single British entry out of pure spite is ludicrous. The entire world is not paying attention to the UK all the time, believe it or not.

SinkGirl · 28/05/2021 13:40

I spent the last few days making a little tribute to Iceland’s entry for my wall - have a look online at how much fan support they have. Can you honestly imagine anyone giving a crap about the U.K. entry?

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