To think there is no outcry over the BBC Princess Diana thing

[battenburgwithtea]

I saw on the news they were saying there was an outcry over it. I'm pretty sure nobody I know irl is bothered, it seems like just the people who decide whats on the news/in the papers think it's a big deal. Or do you know people who are bothered about it?

And whatever people think of Harry and I did watch the Oprah interview I think he still loves his dad but he can acknowledge his Dad's faults but he's an adult now he can see things as an adult ,you can't blame him or William for putting Diana on a pedestal they were so young when she died despite their privileges

They aren't boys. They are grown men with children of their own. They both need to get a job that takes them out of the house/palace/cottage each day. Then, perhaps we might be spared their endless moaning.

Squidgygate, camillagate, Bashir interview, none of them came out smelling of roses.

Harry is tbf he's making his own way in the world albeit with lots of contacts which he's using to his advantage , William not so much

Yeah, it does seem a bit like the BBC is standing in a public square in sackcloth and ashes, flogging themselves while everyone else ignores them and gets on with life.
I love this, so true.
And thank you for starting the thread battenburgwithtea. I thought I was the only person that felt like this. There are SIX pages about this in today's Guardian!

And whatever people think of Harry and I did watch the Oprah interview I think he still loves his dad but he can acknowledge his Dad's faults but he's an adult now he can see things as an adult ,you can't blame him or William for putting Diana on a pedestal they were so young when she died despite their privileges

I agree & they probably didn't even have a chance to grieve properly. When I look back at photos from the funeral I can't believe they had to do that.

I can’t stand the BBC, particularly its dull establishment propaganda news content. And since the Iraq war it’s had its balls cut off and it’s prima raison d’etre is now keeping its funding at all costs, largely by trying (in vain) to keep Tory governments happy, meanwhile sprinkling unwanted identity politics onto everything.

So the BBC sucks. It’s only saving grace is that the people who are so keen to see its demise - Murdoch, privatize everything Tories, the tabloids - are even worse.

@ncgy

And whatever people think of Harry and I did watch the Oprah interview I think he still loves his dad but he can acknowledge his Dad's faults but he's an adult now he can see things as an adult ,you can't blame him or William for putting Diana on a pedestal they were so young when she died despite their privileges

I agree & they probably didn't even have a chance to grieve properly. When I look back at photos from the funeral I can't believe they had to do that.

Yes that was so sad Harry was only 12 and William barely 15 they were only kids who had lost their mum suddenly and tragically .

Well I don't think a public flogging is a good way of solving family pain. I know I'm far from perfect but I'd be hard pushed to get over my kids slagging me off on Oprah and whatever else. All of society has become much more adept at recognising the need for support with mental health. I hope Archie is more forgiving for whatever mistakes he makes.

There was also that Australian, Rolf Harris as well as Jimmy Saville. He went to prison - he was on BBC for years.

Also BBC had to pay Cliff Richard compensation for breach of his privacy and £2,000,000 in legal costs. Richards then felt he had to leave the country because of that experience.

After Savile nothing surprises me about the BBC. Just another patriarchal corporate industry with no one's best interests at heart except their own.

However I do think the royal family have overestimated the public's appetite for stories about them. They all need to cool it, it's tiresome.

Feel sorry for Diana. She was only 20 when she married Charles! And a bit shocked that she was manipulated by Bashir in this way. Forging bank statements is awful. And that it only came out 25 years later. can't really blame her "paranoia"! In some ways she was right to be paranoid. Think it's a generational thing though how you feel about the story. Am old enough to remember the interview and what a stir it caused. The way she talked about mental health and her difficulties was well ahead of her time. Her main crime seems to be in believing the fairy tale.

@coodawoodashooda

People are mostly sick of Harry flogging the chip on his shoulder. We've all got burdens we carry.

I agree with this.

But I think the BBC is a bit to blame, a good move would be to decriminalise not paying the license fee ,

I'm bothered, and so should other people be.

They gaslighted and lied to a very vulnerable woman who was under psychological care, made me believe her protection officers were feeding information to her ex (which in turn made me ditch them, causing a domino effect of serious intrusion into her life) played on her paranoia and forged financial documents, all in the name of getting a juicy interview.

They then covered it up.

This is a public organisation who are supposed to abide by a certain standard of rules and reporting. We should all be refusing to pay our license fee (I've cancelled mine but don't watch live TV anyway) in protest

@tara66

Also BBC had to pay Cliff Richard compensation for breach of his privacy and £2,000,000 in legal costs. Richards then felt he had to leave the country because of that experience.

This, coupled with the Bashir and Saville controversy should really be enough to put paid to the BBC

It was 1995 when all this happened. I cannot believe it’s making so much news now. I honestly couldn’t give a fuck whatsoever.

Yes, she might have been treated unfairly, but spend five minutes on another thread here tonight and people are being left screaming in pain, separated from loved ones in crisis, facing losing everything. I’ve nothing left to give for shit that happened in 1995.

@sashagabadon

I even heard the guy who on the radio who faked the bank statements being all poor me. No one thought to ask him why he thought it was ok to even fake bank statements in the first place or what questions he asked before doing it!

I know! He claims he wasn't told it was for an interview, which I can believe, but what did he think it was for? I think every possible reason for a news organisation to forge a bank statement is bound to be pretty shady.

Yes, she might have been treated unfairly, but spend five minutes on another thread here tonight and people are being left screaming in pain, separated from loved ones in crisis, facing losing everything. I’ve nothing left to give for shit that happened in 1995.

My DH lost a parent to covid & we couldn't grieve properly. A relative was seriously ill in hospital last month & not being able to see them except the time they were critical was horrendous.
I can simultaneously have sympathy for Diana & the boys & think it's wrong that the BBC was still covering up 25 yrs later. We are all different.

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I think there needs to be more of an outcry over Johnson saying the BBC needs to get its house in order. Given his long history of lying and massive corruption, the hypocrisy is absolutely breathtaking.

So true.

Glad you have found it useful MaMaLa321 The story is front page news again today. It feels like they're trying to tell us most people are really outraged when in truth we're in the middle of a pandemic it's hardly urgent or even important news

I always remember seeing on television the two boys being taken to church the morning after Diana's death, to sit through a long service that gave no mention at all to their mother. Apparently Harry asked someone as they left the church "Is Mummy really dead?" Who could put two young boys through that ?

Actually I'm pretty outraged. I remember it well, Diana & I were around the same age. I've read all the detail & not only is it appalling but the subsequent cover ups are shocking. Not what I would have expected of the BBC.

@sashagabadon - I think mocking up documents would be quite standard for TV, for dramas / documentaries. It was the purpose for which these were used which set them apart. And the BBC threw him under a bus.

All the wailing about a ‘cover up’. It was hardly the Iran Contra affair, was it?

I can see quite clearly how the first enquiry, which is now the subject of ‘cover up! Whitewash! Defund the BBC!’ would have gone:

• the guy who mocked up the fake bank statements, with an axe to grind, reports his own actions. Painting himself as being entirely innocent, naturally! Did he claim that he thought that he was mocking up Prince Charles’ bank statements for an episode of Poirot, or something? Hmmmm.

• the investigator sees the letter written by Diana stating that the bank statements didn’t influence her decision to do the interview and that she had no regrets.

• the panel decide, quite reasonably, that it all happened years ago and what’s the point of raking over the coals now?

• they might also have decided - shock! - that our national broadcaster had more important things to concern itself with than leaving no stone unturned and no licence fee money unspent in trying to prove, against all evidence to the contrary, that a rich, rather spoiled woman, who clearly wanted to stick the boot into her ex husband, was coerced into doing that interview. She had touted it around at least one other media outlet before the BBC bit, remember.