To think there is no outcry over the BBC Princess Diana thing

[battenburgwithtea]

I saw on the news they were saying there was an outcry over it. I'm pretty sure nobody I know irl is bothered, it seems like just the people who decide whats on the news/in the papers think it's a big deal. Or do you know people who are bothered about it?

I'm glad the BBC apologised- they and the royals are a sack of shit. Diana deserved better, as does Harry. No outcry needed, worse was done to Diana than what the BBC did.

@battenburgwithtea

I saw on the news they were saying there was an outcry over it. I'm pretty sure nobody I know irl is bothered, it seems like just the people who decide whats on the news/in the papers think it's a big deal. Or do you know people who are bothered about it?

Only media people care because they can pretend that the organization that they work for are morally superior.

Money will be wasted with expensive enquiries benefiting consultants and lawyers and nothing will change. We will see a similar scandal in due course and a new overpaid manager being head of some sort of department that's supposed to prevent this in future.

Perhaps it’s a generational thing. My group of friends are 50up and everyone is talking about Martin bashir’s corruption and how Diana was made paranoid. Really shocked actually that she was so manipulated and lied to by Martin bashir, about her own family. Sickening corruption that changed her life.

It is a convenient way of ignoring what is happening in the rest of the world. Prince William may well be hurt but I don't really care to know about it. Neither of his parents are saintly, his dad married a woman knowing he loved another and cheated on her, his mother married a man who she knew didn't love her, swept into a whirlwind of a fairytale and when she didn't get what she was looking for cheated on her spouse several times with men, some of whom were married. He acted like a child by saying it hastened their marriage, when quite frankly any idiot could see it was doomed from the very beginning. Martin Bashir did not put words into her mouth, he did not make her talk about her affairs or Charles's, she chose to speak about them. If the interview was obtained by fraudulent means then publicly announce and denounce those involved, not just Martin Bashir eg. producers, researchers and all the rest. It is very convenient to make the brown man a scapegoat.

What William doesn't have the guts to say and Harry won't as he has pushed his mother onto a pedestal is that they were two people very unsuited to marriage to each other and neither came up smelling of roses.

Almost a third of women convicted of a crime is for TV licence fee evasion. Three quarters of those convicted of licence fee evasion are women.
It’s outrageous and deserves a lot more attention.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/tv-licence-fee-women-convictions-b1763192.html

Slightly different topic no?

I see two boys who have no answers and somewhere to lay the blame..

The bbc were wrong. I am guessing the outcry was on Itv?

I think there are greater worries right now in the world.

People don't go to prison for not paying the licence fee though ,if they continually evade the fine they may end up in prison ,but quite frankly in this day and age every body should know ,that TV license inspectors have no right to enter your home ,if they Knock on the door just don't answer it ,people only get caught not having a licence because they admit to it .

@Starlightstarbright1

I see two boys who have no answers and somewhere to lay the blame..

The bbc were wrong. I am guessing the outcry was on Itv?

I think there are greater worries right now in the world.

From what I saw it was on the BBC news channel all day yesterday repeatedly on a loop ,it seemed they were desperate for us us to be outraged about them.🙄

I don’t think the BBC’s means of paying for its journalism is off topic, no. It’s very relevant.

@Zzelda

I think there needs to be more of an outcry over Johnson saying the BBC needs to get its house in order. Given his long history of lying and massive corruption, the hypocrisy is absolutely breathtaking.

Agreed. There is a lot more seriously wrong stuff going on than this story.

The only discussion I have had is with a family member who lives abroad, and had not seen the original interview, and wanted to know what the issue was.

The pandemic and the Duke and Duchess of Sussex's interviews seem to be more on people's minds. However much they felt for the Princess of Wales during her lifetime or after her untimely death.

I think it’s awful. What Martin Bashir did was fraud, in my view. Not only did he have fake bank statements rigged up, but he allegedly told her the intelligence services and others were spying on her.

This contributed to her paranoia, and led to her declining to have ongoing Met police protection. Had she had that protection she’d never have needed to rely on Al Fayed’s security, and wouldn’t have been driven home that fateful night by a drunk driver.

If I were William and Harry I’d never forgive Bashir or the BBC, and I’d probably think the whole thing helped contribute to her untimely death. It’s awful.

Amongst other things, Bashir -
Told her that Charles had given William a watch which recorded their conversations.
Told her that Charles was having an affair with Tiggy (children's nanny) and showed her a receipt for a termination.
Showed her bank statements that ostensibly showed that her private secretary was being paid bribes into his account from News International.

So the considered interview she was considering to promote her charities - and obviously do herself no harm in the process - was replaced by a secret interview to do whatever damage she could, to those she had been led to believe were out to harm her.

Who wouldn't have been paranoid after that lot?!

@coodawoodashooda

People are mostly sick of Harry flogging the chip on his shoulder. We've all got burdens we carry.

That sums it up for me. It's a choice to give BBC your money. So don't. Fuck them if you don't like them.

Well I was quite shocked at the BBCs behaviour tbh.

@ncgy

Well I was quite shocked at the BBCs behaviour tbh.

You were?! After knowing they paid Saville and it was known he was a paedo predator raping bastard?

@VestaTilley

I think it’s awful. What Martin Bashir did was fraud, in my view. Not only did he have fake bank statements rigged up, but he allegedly told her the intelligence services and others were spying on her.

This contributed to her paranoia, and led to her declining to have ongoing Met police protection. Had she had that protection she’d never have needed to rely on Al Fayed’s security, and wouldn’t have been driven home that fateful night by a drunk driver.

If I were William and Harry I’d never forgive Bashir or the BBC, and I’d probably think the whole thing helped contribute to her untimely death. It’s awful.

This.

You were?! After knowing they paid Saville and it was known he was a paedo predator raping bastard?

Yep, I assumed they had improved since then.

She would have had police protection if it hadn't been for Bashir

And wouldn't be dead

It's so obvious that Harry was always going to look for a way out, he despises & blames the media & hates the relationship that the Royals have to have with them.

OwlBeThere

I don't think he should shut up because his Granny is The Queen. I don't think it's is helpful for him to advertise his trauma. Just as I don't advertise mine.

@coodawoodashooda perhaps he finds it helpful? Everyone copes with trauma differently.

I would rather be depressed in a palace than a bedsit
2, is easier to get mental health support when money literally buys it rather than waiting for the NHS and its three to six phone sessions (after you wsit 18 months) and take ssri for the next 10 years till we notice...if we notice

Thank you, other threads have tried to shame me without giving me the courtesy of understanding what it is like to get mental health support when you are poor. How can Harry not understand, I have nothing, no help no support and no means of acquiring it. My husband wants to kill himself and is not capable of understanding that I can't cope with that due to the death of my father and mother. He is not the only person to lose a mother as a child.

@ncgy

You were?! After knowing they paid Saville and it was known he was a paedo predator raping bastard?

Yep, I assumed they had improved since then.

This was in the 90,s though so the whole saville cover up and everything else was still going on at the time .