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Is anyone here on Only Fans?

432 replies

MissGendered · 21/05/2021 11:19

Or do you know someone that is? I'm curious how many real life people are actually on it.

I'm not a journo, the Daily mail is a shit rag.

OP posts:
H2OConnoisseur · 21/05/2021 20:03

[quote NameChange189373]@cakedays IMO the only thing damaging to society as a whole is other women. This thread is a prime example of it. When I created OF the thing I was worried about was being slagged off by people I knew, and I knew it would be other women.

Men are going to buy and look at porn no matter what and I’d much rather they buy it on OF where the majority of it is made by women who are controlling it themselves instead of accessing free porn online where there is a much higher likelihood that they are being forced in to it. It’s completely stupid for us to expect porn to be eradicated completely as it’s never going to happen.

Women should be focusing their energy on that and the pimps who are forcing women into prostitution instead of attacking women who are just trying to make their own money.[/quote]
I think when it comes down to it men are the problem. Horrible as it sounds, when men look at porn they don't see the performers as people as to them it's a 'distant' thing. With OF, a lot of men in school sought out fellow students or people in neighbouring schools as they're 'real people'.

Unfortunately, one result of the normalisation of it all, from what I've observed, is that it creates a sort of environment where women are now more obviously sexualised than ever. We are told that we are 'lucky' that we can do OF. You sit in class knowing that most of the boys have seen some of the girls nude or doing certain sex acts. I was at work and people were talking about the incoming intern and having seen her Instagram, people (men specifically) were wondering if she had one since all women seem to be on it. This is all acceptable behaviour now because 'sex work is work'.

It may work for you, but I still strongly believe that there are wider implications to this entire issue, many of which only benefit men as a whole.

Susannahmoody · 21/05/2021 20:05

@NameChange189373

How much do you reckon you earn per month?

I'm an almost 40 year old mother of 2 so that shop has sailed, but if I'd have been 18 I think I could have made a fucking killing from OF.

Fair play to you, name change

Tiredanawfullot · 21/05/2021 20:05

I recently found out someone I know this. She’s in her early 20s (far younger than me). She earns well out of it from the sounds of it, while working part time in a marketing role and also having her own craft business. More and more young people seem to be doing several self employed jobs it seems, rather than having one form of employment. I find it fascinating

cakedays · 21/05/2021 20:07

[quote NameChange189373]@cakedays IMO the only thing damaging to society as a whole is other women. This thread is a prime example of it. When I created OF the thing I was worried about was being slagged off by people I knew, and I knew it would be other women.

Men are going to buy and look at porn no matter what and I’d much rather they buy it on OF where the majority of it is made by women who are controlling it themselves instead of accessing free porn online where there is a much higher likelihood that they are being forced in to it. It’s completely stupid for us to expect porn to be eradicated completely as it’s never going to happen.

Women should be focusing their energy on that and the pimps who are forcing women into prostitution instead of attacking women who are just trying to make their own money.[/quote]
“The only thing damaging to society as a whole is other women”

Righty-ho! Yes that’s absolutely true. Women are clearly the oppressors globally in society.

I’m afraid your agenda is becoming visible, OP. Women are the root of society’s problems. That’s right.

(If one was inclined to argue—

“Men are going to buy and look at porn not matter what”

How come then, that they didn’t as a rule, before screen pornography became readily available? How come the old dirty mags that some men bought were pretty tame by modern standards? How come the few porn flicks shown in Soho cinemas didn’t contain graphic footage of rape, choking, BDSM and hardcore violation of young women?

This “men will always buy it” narrative falls down when those of us over the age of 30 remember quite well how quite a large proportion of men didn’t.)

NameChange189373 · 21/05/2021 20:09

I was prepared to write a measured response until you wrote this misogynistic comment. On a women's forum slagging off other women

Pointing out that women are damaging each other by pulling each other apart due to a job is not a misogynistic comment. This thread has even made comments on women’s appearances due to fillers and plastic surgery. If you do not think that the comments regarding sex workers being without morals and ‘sickening’ are damaging to women then what are they please? How can everyone say that men don’t respect us when we aren’t respecting each other and this thread is literally a prime example of that? I’m not slagging other women off, twist my words into what you want but if you don’t think that attitude is damaging and quite frankly dangerous then I’m not arguing with you.

Lizzie523 · 21/05/2021 20:10

@Tiredanawfullot

I recently found out someone I know this. She’s in her early 20s (far younger than me). She earns well out of it from the sounds of it, while working part time in a marketing role and also having her own craft business. More and more young people seem to be doing several self employed jobs it seems, rather than having one form of employment. I find it fascinating
That's mostly because so many companies are advertising freelance contacts these days, not wanting to shell out for the benefits they would have to provide normal workers with. While job hunting recently I was shocking to discover the majority of roles on offer in my sector were freelance and short term.

Also the older women on this thread encouraging the young women in this thread, saying they would have done the same are no better imo.

Grellbunt · 21/05/2021 20:13

If supply didn't create demand then capitalism wouldn't work

Some of you are v naive about human psychology

There also used to be a lot of stigma attached to watching porn etc - dirty old man, lech, saddo ... it was a lot harder to get hold of too. And tamer. Hardly surprising men consumed less. Morality had its uses.

As for the comments about the sex industry preventing rapes etc. That's the Madonna/Whore complex right there. Internalised misogny. No idea.

Susannahmoody · 21/05/2021 20:13

People who aren't doing porn on OF - what are they actually doing??

forinborin · 21/05/2021 20:14

@ShutUpAlex

No but after seeing the video about that lady who makes £3000 a month farting I’m considering it Grin

I could make millions

Also check out: financial dominatrix. It IS a thing.
cakedays · 21/05/2021 20:15

@NameChange189373

I was prepared to write a measured response until you wrote this misogynistic comment. On a women's forum slagging off other women

Pointing out that women are damaging each other by pulling each other apart due to a job is not a misogynistic comment. This thread has even made comments on women’s appearances due to fillers and plastic surgery. If you do not think that the comments regarding sex workers being without morals and ‘sickening’ are damaging to women then what are they please? How can everyone say that men don’t respect us when we aren’t respecting each other and this thread is literally a prime example of that? I’m not slagging other women off, twist my words into what you want but if you don’t think that attitude is damaging and quite frankly dangerous then I’m not arguing with you.

I’m afraid you literally wrote “IMO the big thing damaging society as a whole is other women”! That’s most certainly slagging women off.

The comparison with working for a tobacco company seems too close to the bone, OP. What about working for an oil company? You’re contributing to climate change, but you can kid yourself it’s the car drivers that are the issue? Or is it more like if you worked in marketing for the Trump campaign? It’s good money and just a job, it doesn’t matter where the moment comes from? It doesn’t matter if as a result other girls and women end up objectified, degraded?

Grellbunt · 21/05/2021 20:16

NameChange189373

It's not just "a job" though. It really isn't.

Lala134 · 21/05/2021 20:16

@Hatethisplacetho

I read that customers on there ask women to dress in local school uniforms ... some men are beyond grim and depraved and the women entertaining their nonsense just as bad.
exactly. The women are contributing to this and yet they have the gall to say its 'empowering' completley ignoring the societal impact and impact on future generations of women, also making men even more perverted so thanks alot for that I hope all the bags were worth it when you find out at 10 your kid is getting asked to send nudes, kids in secondary schools are starting OF ccounts with fake ID sending perverted men images and videos as now it is so normalised this is happening accross the country so thanks alot. YASS QUEEN!!!!! absoluetly pathetic
ChelseaChop · 21/05/2021 20:18

As a mum of a daughter this makes me feel physically quite sick. The normalisation of selling your body on the cheap, through a MLM model. I could cry

Lizzie523 · 21/05/2021 20:21

@NameChange189373

I was prepared to write a measured response until you wrote this misogynistic comment. On a women's forum slagging off other women

Pointing out that women are damaging each other by pulling each other apart due to a job is not a misogynistic comment. This thread has even made comments on women’s appearances due to fillers and plastic surgery. If you do not think that the comments regarding sex workers being without morals and ‘sickening’ are damaging to women then what are they please? How can everyone say that men don’t respect us when we aren’t respecting each other and this thread is literally a prime example of that? I’m not slagging other women off, twist my words into what you want but if you don’t think that attitude is damaging and quite frankly dangerous then I’m not arguing with you.

I don't respect the choice you have made. I am not pulling you apart, I am stating that as a fact. In life, I don't respect the choices of all women or all men - I consider each person alone.

Have you ever heard of Emma Caldwell? She was a prostitute from Glasgow who was murdered. Her friend, also a prostitute, was recently interviewed about porn and sex workers today. She said the term sex worker angered her because it glamorised the seedy reality of what they do. The podcast is on BBC sounds now for anyone interested.

I am a member of a women's organisation which gives women a platform and a voice. I work hard to make it a success.

When I come on this thread and find out that women including yourself as taking their clothes off online for men when they would literally be doing 100 other things with their skills and talents that would not contribute to objectifying women it makes me mad.

A man founded OF knowing he would make a bomb from it and he has. He is also rolling back years of progress that women before has put in. I hope you find another path in the years to come

Grellbunt · 21/05/2021 20:22

As a mum of boys it makes me sick too. Because I care about all our children and I don't want them to grow up with this empty, soulless, transactional view of "relationships". There is zero dignity in it.

Lala134 · 21/05/2021 20:25

@ChelseaChop

As a mum of a daughter this makes me feel physically quite sick. The normalisation of selling your body on the cheap, through a MLM model. I could cry
same here. I do not want to bring my young child up in a society like this. seriously considering moving to a more religious and strict country all of this 'progressive' 'sex positive' stuff is just normalising treating women like a piece of meat to pump and dump and men can just have a quick look at pics of you naked for 10 quid and this is normal? jesus christ, but no its fine I want my daughetr to grow up knowing thats the best way to be 'sucessful' is to lose her dignity for perverts and then she can go to dubai and buy a bag its worth losing your dignity and self respect for right?, give me a fucking break.
TedImgoingmad · 21/05/2021 20:34

seriously considering moving to a more religious and strict country

It's funny how the holiday destination of choice for all these wealthy OF ladies is Dubai!

Serpenta · 21/05/2021 20:37

Move to a stricter and more religious country. Maybe Hungary? They're getting very strict and religious. I'm sure Hungarian women are truly flourishing.

cakedays · 21/05/2021 20:43

@TedImgoingmad

seriously considering moving to a more religious and strict country

It's funny how the holiday destination of choice for all these wealthy OF ladies is Dubai!

Yes, absolutely - another jurisdiction where you can enjoy exploitative money whilst ignoring the oppression of others on whom it’s built.
Lizzie523 · 21/05/2021 20:45

Agreed @Serpenta, not the answer!

BitOfAFaff · 21/05/2021 20:46

No. But occasionally on my FYP there is this woman who has bought her own home for doing it.

I don't like her personally.

BitOfAFaff · 21/05/2021 20:46

Tiktok.*

Tsubasa1 · 21/05/2021 20:47

I find this thread really depressing. Where did we go wrong as a society to end up like this? With more religious societies seemingly being the better option...

mooongooose · 21/05/2021 21:10

How come then, that they didn’t as a rule, before screen pornography became readily available? How come the old dirty mags that some men bought were pretty tame by modern standards? How come the few porn flicks shown in Soho cinemas didn’t contain graphic footage of rape, choking, BDSM and hardcore violation of young women?

I get your point (I think) in response to the poster about men. Men have control of themselves etc. (Tbh there's no going back to magazines now, which is frightening in a way)

But rape is not allowed on porn sites. Some are too big to police effectively but it's not permitted still. There are words that are banned on sites AFAIK that won't bring any results.

Also, you may not like things like choking but they can be consensual. I enjoy it ( more so than my partner). I don't think I'm an anomaly. But you'll just say I'm brainwashed.

SofiaMichelle · 21/05/2021 22:12

@ChelseaChop

As a mum of a daughter this makes me feel physically quite sick. The normalisation of selling your body on the cheap, through a MLM model. I could cry
MLM??

Don't be so ridiculous.