No one wants weekend work

[LastOrdersMaura]

My friend has a cafe. It's in a central location with a good bus route, cycle route and ten mins walk from a huge university campus.
Despite the jobs being on Indeed and advertised on a local job site, no one is applying. Or they apply but say 'is there any negotiation on the days?' Why doesn't anyone want weekend work anymore? I would have thought there would have been college students, Uni students, mums/ dads who can only work when partners are home, retired people who are bored. Why is it so difficult to recruit?

Where on earth do you get a full english with drink for under a fiver?

You can get a Full English at Wetherspoons for just over £5 per person. Tea with free refills is 99p.

@cupsofcoffee

Where on earth do you get a full english with drink for under a fiver?

You can get a Full English at Wetherspoons for just over £5 per person. Tea with free refills is 99p.

I haven't eaten at a Wetherspoons since 1999. Do you know if it's any good?

I haven't eaten at a Wetherspoons since 1999. Do you know if it's any good?

No idea the last time I had a Wetherspoons' breakfast was as a very hungover student in Nottingham!

You can pretty much guess from the price about the quality of the "ping" meals...

You can get a Full English at Wetherspoons for just over £5 per person. Tea with free refills is 99p.

And the only way you can serve a meal for that price is by paying staff a pittance and buying the cheapest, most environmentally destructive food possible that is also produced by paying people a pittance (and usually treating them appallingly).

I’m not usually ‘let them eat cake’ but it wouldn’t be terrible if that sort of food disappeared off menus. I’m not sure the right to eat out justifies wages people can’t afford to live on, treating animals like shit and chopping down the rainforests at an alarming rate.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57218978

one way of trying to recruit staff

but wouldn't it be better to just offer better conditions and pay?

It absolutely wouldn't be terrible, but customers won't have it. There will always be "but maccies sell burger for 1.99 why can't you too??? I can buy bun and meat for quarter of the price"🤷🏻

But James Reed said there were job shortages across the board, not just in hospitality, with 18,000 vacancies added online in just one day last week - "the highest number I can recall in years".

wow

@JassyRadlett

You can get a Full English at Wetherspoons for just over £5 per person. Tea with free refills is 99p.

And the only way you can serve a meal for that price is by paying staff a pittance and buying the cheapest, most environmentally destructive food possible that is also produced by paying people a pittance (and usually treating them appallingly).

I’m not usually ‘let them eat cake’ but it wouldn’t be terrible if that sort of food disappeared off menus. I’m not sure the right to eat out justifies wages people can’t afford to live on, treating animals like shit and chopping down the rainforests at an alarming rate.

Oh, I totally agree.

I'm just saying that while people are happy to pay £5 for a Full English plus less than £1 for unlimited tea/coffee, then someone is going to have to work for shit hours for NMW to provide that service.

I'm just saying that while people are happy to pay £5 for a Full English plus less than £1 for unlimited tea/coffee, then someone is going to have to work for shit hours for NMW to provide that service.

I don’t think that’s necessarily the case - if people aren’t willing to work shit hours for NMW (because there is a labour shortage and people have better options) then the provider of the cheap meal isn’t going to be able to provide it for that price.

They don’t have a right to labour. They have to offer terms people are willing to accept, and price their products accordingly. More demand for hospitality staff may ultimately mean that either the establishments that rely on the cheapest labour have to put their prices up - and how consumers will still accept the product at a higher price, change their business model so that it’s not reliant on the cheapest labour, or close.

It doesn’t matter a jot what consumers want, if the market can’t or won’t support it.

I’d love to eat at Noma for a tenner. Noma ain’t offering meals for a tenner so I as a consumer have to go whistle and choose an option I can afford and that the market is able to provide.

@JBaez

Yes tourist area. So always plenty of part time and summer jobs. But this year more than ever.

@JBaez

I must be in the minority here but I really don't think that 10am-4pm on NMW is an awful shift for awful pay!

NMW for a 17 year old is £4.72 p/h
I earned around £3.00-£3.50 p/h as a 6th former in 1990...

I earnt £1.80 at McDonald's in 1989.

Where on earth do you get a full english with drink for under a fiver?

I could take you to at least a dozen places within a couple of miles of my house to get you that.

I'm just saying that while people are happy to pay £5 for a Full English plus less than £1 for unlimited tea/coffee, then someone is going to have to work for shit hours for NMW to provide that service.

But then those wages, are enough to cover the things they want to spend their money on. Be that a meal out themselves, a hair cut, a taxi ride, etc etc.
If an hour's wage can buy a cooked breakfast, or 3 hours wages buy a haircut, or 30mins wage get you a bus ride, it really doesn't matter if the age is £5 and hour or £50 an hour, in terms of those working for their 'spending money' (totally different discussion when people can only get those jobs for full time employment), but as this thread started out talking about jobs for people in the 6th form or whilst at University, for their "spending money", then that is what they will weigh up....... "Where I live, how many hours do I need to work to be able to cover what I spend on a night out, or a driving lesson, or .... {insert the reason they are working} ?"

That’s really low!
I was on the till at a well know supermarket (higher wage if you were on the till in those days).

How about 16 year olds? Plenty of them looking for wkend jobs. What part of the country?

In my opinion shit minimum wage employers except to much in terms of experience, qualifications, they need to change their requirements, it’s not an employers market anymore, about time that people were paid a living wage. Kids where I live can’t find a wkend job and have to jump through so many hoops or be completely flexible as other’s have said.