To think my ds isnt overweight due to diet

[Hannahgirl]

2nd post within a day !!
Hi my son 5 has severe asd and hes literally on the go all the time he never sits still for a sec. He never eats breakfast lunch or dinner. His snacks tend to be fruit or a sandwich etc. Hes overweight by 2 stone.
He is a very tall boy. Aibu

Also yeah hes very tall. He was 11 pounds when born !!

Again, OP, it is very worrying that your DS barely eats. I doubt he’s overweight for his height. You need to measure his height and weight again and go off height for bmi, not age if he’s taller than average.

@CutieBear

Again, OP, it is very worrying that your DS barely eats. I doubt he’s overweight for his height. You need to measure his height and weight again and go off height for bmi, not age if he’s taller than average.

I have done that with the bmi calculator and i got slightly overweight and others have got normal weight and underweight. I will wait until Tuesday and go from there.

How much does he weigh and what’s his height?

the doctor agrees that an error has taken place
It's by far the likeliest scenario. But do keep filling in the food diary, it'll be a useful thing to have.

@CutieBear

How much does he weigh and what’s his height?

He's 4' 4" and weighs 4 stone 9 lb I think. Wears age 6-7 clothes. Sounds like his weight is healthy for his height, I'm more surprised he isn't underweight based on the small amount of food he's eating. Hopefully OP's doctor can reassess and look into it.

For perspective, your son weights the same as my 9 year old who is considered maybe slightly overweight, (he's between the 50-75th centile). My 11 year old weights quite a bit less than your son (they are weighed in kg but my 11 year old is 29kg and your son is 31.1kg. On the 9-25th centile.

So just based on the weight you did yourself you child does sound to be quite overweight.

I think you need to keep a log with volumes, it's a hassle but it's the only way to work this out. I think if what you're saying is correct and your child is eating in a calorie deficit then something very odd is going on.

The two children i mentioned both have ASD, ADHD, learning difficulties and other conditions, so I get it, my 9 year old eats a lot any it's sensory seeking and the 11 year old doesn't because he doesn't eat huge amounts, mine pretty much doesn't eat the entire day when he is medicated and then eats small amounts when he's not.

Melatonin affects appetite too OP. can he do without it some nights (weekend) and see if that helps his eating?

Putting aside the error, the more surprising/concerning thing is how he isn't vastly underweight if an entire days food is roughly 300cals (pombear plus watermelon plus milk) and he's on the go all day.

Even with his correct BMI, something doesn't add up.

@myfuckingfreezer

Putting aside the error, the more surprising/concerning thing is how he isn't vastly underweight if an entire days food is roughly 300cals (pombear plus watermelon plus milk) and he's on the go all day.

Even with his correct BMI, something doesn't add up.

My thoughts exactly

I don't understand how anyone is even getting a measurement close to overweight, unless one of the measurements I have is wrong.

Height 4 ft 4
Weight 4 stone 9, so 65lbs.
If I plug those into the calculator here, I get a BMI of 16,9, which would be underweight.

@StrangeLookingParasite
That’s an American website and it might not account for children. The U.K. NHS one, set to Child, says he is at the upper end of healthy.

[quote daisypond]@Torvean
Have you read the OP’s posts? Her son is clearly never going to eat Weetabix with berries and milk![/quote]
I did actually. He seems to like fruit and eats crackers and drinks milk.
So how do you know he wouldn't try it?
There's no need to jump on ppl who are trying to help. Your not the kids mother and I wasn't trying to help you..

[quote daisypond]@StrangeLookingParasite
That’s an American website and it might not account for children. The U.K. NHS one, set to Child, says he is at the upper end of healthy.[/quote]
OH, OK, for some reason I thought I'd picked a UK site. I seee what you mean. He's still definitely not two stone overweight, though.

OH, OK, for some reason I thought I'd picked a UK site. I seee what you mean. He's still definitely not two stone overweight, though.

Americans calculate BMI in the same way. It’s the fact he’s a child that makes the difference.

Just to say again being in proportion for height is not necessarily reassuring if the child is growing tall too early for their natural height. Yes some children will be tall genetics but if they don’t come from a tall/big family it may be a worry.

He's 4' 4" and weighs 4 stone 9 lb I think. Wears age 6-7 clothes. Sounds like his weight is healthy for his height, I'm more surprised he isn't underweight based on the small amount of food he's eating. Hopefully OP's doctor can reassess and look into it.

Ah yes I missed that part further up the thread. He’s underweight, bmi 16 (if we just go off height rather than age). He’s barely eating. I hope his doctor is able to find out why he’s so thin and not eating before it impacts his growth and general health.

Just put his height and weight into the NHS child bmi checker and put his age as 8 (as he is the average height of an 8 year old) and he’s the 73rd centile, which is healthy.

@CutieBear

Just put his height and weight into the NHS child bmi checker and put his age as 8 (as he is the average height of an 8 year old) and he’s the 73rd centile, which is healthy.

It asks for their actual age, height is already accounted for. Age matters, as a healthy bmi changes with age.

It's odd who people who are never seen OPs child seem more certain of his bmi than a doctor who presumably knows how to calculate it.

@Fishandhips

It's odd who people who are never seen OPs child seem more certain of his bmi than a doctor who presumably knows how to calculate it.

Would you just trust the GP if something really didn't seem right? Two stone lighter would put the child on the 1st percentile for bmi, he is clearly not two stone overweight. It's easy enough to use the NHS bmi calculator, as long as you put in the correct height, weight and age.

Doctors are not infallible so yes, questioning something that doesn't seem right is sensible.

No, but people commenting he must not be is different to the OP questioning it. By the sound of it he needs some support with eating anyway, so not sure why it's been positioned as a bad thing by some. And yes, I would trust a doctor more than random people on the Internet who have never seen said child.

Hope you get sorted OP.

It's odd who people who are never seen OPs child seem more certain of his bmi than a doctor who presumably knows how to calculate it.

As the NHS provides a handy online BMI calculator, we have to assume it is the same as the one a doctor would use. Otherwise the NHS would be lying to us!

Plugging in the height and weight given her DS comes out as on the 83rd centile which is at the higher end of a healthy weight. As a tall child he can’t possibly be 2 stone overweight at 4 stone 9 as that would take you down to 2 stone 9 which is just in healthy weight range for an average height child but would be underweight for a tall one.