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IWantT0BreakFree · 18/05/2021 07:01

It says in the linked articles that she wears the hoody to cover the back of her head, presumably the part left uncovered at the bottom of the cap.

I just don't think it's a big deal what a sick child wears. For whatever reason, that's what makes her feel comfortable enough to come to school. The school had the option to either accomodate the modest wishes of a sick kid, or to stamp their authority and demand adherence to The Rules at all costs. Sadly they chose the latter and only demonstrated any compassion once shamed into it by hundreds of other children and the general public.

As for their comment about "making her feel supported", yes I'm sure she really feels like you care about her, Heritage High School.

RaiseTheBeastie · 18/05/2021 07:06

But any other sort of hat is still going to make her stand out amongst her peers. Would a beanie or a scarf be any better? How does wearing a cap affect any pupil's ability to learn?

How would wearing trainers affect the ability to learn? But most schools don't allow them as part of uniform because they're not smart enough.

A number of other head coverings - scarf, bandanna, wig, beanie, combo of those - would imo be smarter.

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stillreallytired · 18/05/2021 07:09

I just don't think it's a big deal what a sick child wears

I agree

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SadieCow · 18/05/2021 07:10

@RaiseTheBeastie some things come above "smartness" and others opinions.

The child in question has decided on a cap, that makes her feel better about the situation.

Some ridiculous "it's not smart enough" attitude that really is irrelevant is not important and is also archaic.

The school have also come to their senses and have stopped being so ridiculous!

Whatwouldscullydo · 18/05/2021 07:11

Yanbu

Poor girl. As long as she behaves herself it shouldn't matter whatnshe wears. If only schools cared as much about everything else as they do about clothing.

Confusedandshaken · 18/05/2021 07:26

@Keepingitreal14

I think there are probably better solutions then a cap, she will still stand out as being different as no other child is allowed a cap.

Maybe a wig, or some other head gear that’s less stand out then a cap.

A child wearing a wig will certainly stand out! Wigs are also hot, scratchy and uncomfortable. A light cap with ventilation holes is none of those things.

At DCs school there were two children who were allowed caps, one with albinism who needed to protect his eyes and scalp from the sun, the other with hair loss due to cancer. It wasn't just practical, it was also a little privilege the two of them had that made them feel valued and important.

Zzelda · 18/05/2021 07:28

How would wearing trainers affect the ability to learn? But most schools don't allow them as part of uniform because they're not smart enough.

But again, how does "being smart" affect the ability to learn? The only argument I can see against allowing trainers is that you'd get kids competing about who has the latest incredibly expensive designer trainers. The amount of time schools waste faffing about uniform in the UK is utterly ridiculous: schools in Europe manage to educate children without insisting they all wear scratchy blazers, silly ties and shoes of exactly the same colour and style.

AccidentallyOnPurpose · 18/05/2021 07:28

So a child that is ill, lost their hair and is in pain still wants to go to school and learn. She just wants to be comfortable (in more ways than one while doing it). The school is saying she doesn't have the right to do that because ..rules. Bonkers.

Dontjudgeme101 · 18/05/2021 07:31

@stillreallytired

I just don't think it's a big deal what a sick child wears

I agree

So do l.

bagsofshite · 18/05/2021 07:48

How awful of that school. She’s got a serious illness and her comfort should be the priority.

billy1966 · 18/05/2021 07:48

Any hair loss is an absolutely HUGE deal.

Even more so for a child I would think.

Some friends of mine have come through cancer, all strong, capable women and they all found their hair loss very challenging and painful.

It's been just wonderful to see their hair return, curly first and then returning to it's normal thickness.

That poor child was going through enough without this.
What a beautiful face she has.

1idea · 18/05/2021 07:52

Hair loss can make you feel cold too I wore a hooded jacket a lot when I lost my hair as my head was so sensitive and cold.

notanothertakeaway · 18/05/2021 07:58

@billy1966

Any hair loss is an absolutely HUGE deal.

Even more so for a child I would think.

Some friends of mine have come through cancer, all strong, capable women and they all found their hair loss very challenging and painful.

It's been just wonderful to see their hair return, curly first and then returning to it's normal thickness.

That poor child was going through enough without this.
What a beautiful face she has.

@billy1966

What a beautiful face she has

I know you mean well and that's a kind thing to say, but her beautiful face is irrelevant. She could be the ugliest child in the country and it would still be reasonable to allow her to wear a cap and hoody, to preserve her dignity

itsgettingwierd · 18/05/2021 08:06

The school said there were ongoing discussions.

Why? Just why? Why is there any need for any thought consideration or discussion?

The girl has hair loss due to a painful condition. She already suffers enough.

All these stupid school uniform rules that apparently improve learning eventually all seem to prevent children who want to learn despite suffering other difficulties from doing just that.

echt · 18/05/2021 08:13

@stillreallytired

student is forbidden to wear a hat despite suffering hair loss

Is it just me or is this taking uniform rules far too literally?

Allegedly.

In my school in Australia: Baseball cap seems fine, hoodie, no.

Beanie would suffice.

dottiedaisee · 18/05/2021 08:14

@BetterThanKleenex

My friend's son had terminal cancer and wasn't allowed to wear a wig/hat at school. Absolutely atrocious. He had to leave the school because of it and spent his last months at home, instead of at school where he was happy. These uniform rules are so stupid and incredibly ableist.

Absolutely shocking !

Etinox · 18/05/2021 08:14

School uniform is such a crock of shit! Such a waste of time and energy across the country. Imagine if all that money and was put towards workbooks. Typical scenario in any school- kids wearing £200 of scratchy unsustainable clothes sharing books 🤯

Latelatelate · 18/05/2021 08:15

I doubt a hat/cap is the problem. The problem will be with the hoodie covering the uniform and/or worn instead of a blazer I suspect.
Schools need to use their common sense and it looks like they say it’s ok from the above article.

echt · 18/05/2021 08:16

@Etinox

School uniform is such a crock of shit! Such a waste of time and energy across the country. Imagine if all that money and was put towards workbooks. Typical scenario in any school- kids wearing £200 of scratchy unsustainable clothes sharing books 🤯

Yet massively it's the parents who support it.

In principle.

Latelatelate · 18/05/2021 08:19

All these stupid school uniform rules that apparently improve learning eventually all seem to prevent children who want to learn despite suffering other difficulties from doing just that.

Would you get rid of all uniforms everywhere or just in school?

CaptainMyCaptain · 18/05/2021 08:22

This school is fairly close to me. I think the other pupils who protested in her support were brilliant. The local Facebook group and comments under the local paper report are 100% supportive. I'm a retired teacher and am normally very dubious about local paper sad-face articles over discipline and uniform issues. This is completely different. I would bet money this ruling was nothing to do with teachers and entirely down to someone at the Academy who had never met the girl.

Whatwouldscullydo · 18/05/2021 08:23

Would you get rid of all uniforms everywhere or just in school?

Depends where they are necessary doesn't it? I mean sometimes you need to be able to identify staff or there are h&s requirements.

Given non.uniform schools exist and college and university and pre schools manage fine without a uniform , and the one argument that a its a leveller went put put window when it started costing several hundred pounds to get through the door, and prices out the poor and excluded anyone who is disabled ir has AN and can't wear the uniform , went out the window.

BettyUnderswoob · 18/05/2021 08:26

What a bunch of insensitive twunts.

My autistic daughter with OCD has had to have some unusual uniform, clothing and hair choices accommodated at her schools. They were always fine and supportive.
Glad she doesn't go to Clowne.

BeaLola · 18/05/2021 08:29

I think this is completely awful of the school - there is a very good reason why the family have asked and well done to those who made a stand

flashylamp · 18/05/2021 08:33

I'm a bit surprised at some of the posters on this thread. She is a child with a debilitating disease FFS. Whatever she feels comfortable in is by far the best.

I honestly feel so grateful for both our primary and high schools when I read things like this happening to other children, needlessly.

A power trip for the adults and nothing more