Identifying a pedophile to his neighbours

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If you found out, through work, that a pedophile was going to live on a certain street near you.
Would you anonymously let the neighbourhood know?

Would you want to know?

This could not be traced back to one individual.

@RoseRedRoseBlue

You did attack another poster, and she raised exactly the same point.

If you say so.

I don't see the downside, except that the 'professionals' wouldn't have a sense of superiority in knowing better than normal parents

So your kids uncle, who you have nothing to do with because he’s a convicted SO, who shares a surname with your kids, is now out there as public knowledge. Everyone knows, people stop you in the street to abuse you as a family member. Your kids are bullied and asked if they were ever “fiddled with”

Add to that vigilante groups live streaming themselves “confronting” him and sharing his name and picture.

It’s the knock on to the families that is the “downside”. You seriously can’t see that?

@MissTrip82

People who think knowing meant they could make their children safer are absolutely deluded. You fools.

The most insidious paedophiles won’t even have been convicted. If you’re changing your behaviour to your next door neighbour because you know they have a conviction then your previous behaviour towards your neighbour before you knew was unsafe and foolish. It should be there’s nothing to change because you were already doing everything reasonable to protect your children.

This.

@IloveJKRowling I am not a "professional. I am a professional. That's just rude. You can disagree with me as vehemently as you wish, that is fine, and my profession does not in any way absolve me from criticism, but my professional qualifications are not in inverted commas.

@theDudesmummy I think we work in the same field, I've tried several times to have reasonable conversations on here about effective risk management and proportionality, it's like banging your head against a brick wall.

No, because if it was work-related, I'd lose my job. I used to work in the NHS and we had confidentiality rammed down our throats. If I disclosed patient information and it was traced back to me, I'd be in deep shit.

@KingdomScrolls I am used to this in real life too, so I don't really take it personally. Offender risk of all kinds is something that many people have strong opinions on (for obvious emotive reasons) without necessarily having the understanding of the basis and evidence behind it. Add the Daily Mail etc to that and you have a complicated situation which leads to the kind of NIMBYism displayed here. It's expected but depressing, and doesn't seem to have changed much over decades. Several people on this thread have effectively demonstrated the entrenched positions that still exist.

Yes, I would mention it if he had been convicted.

@theDudesmummy earlier in my career I used to deliver SOTP (TVP) I got all kinds of backlash about that, even friends would wrinkle noses and ask how I could stomach it....

@AlternativePerspective

As for the PP who said that nobody doesn’t want a paedophile being beaten up, you’re wrong. Do you really think these vigilante thugs who set out to beat up the local paedo do so because they have the welfare of society at heart? Because they care about what happens to our children? Get real. The kinds of people who set out to beat up the local paedo are the same types who are out brawling on a Saturday night only to come home and beat the crap out of their wives.

They do it for notoriety and nothing more.

But if you want to encourage those types on to your street then crack on.

metro.co.uk/2020/06/17/paedophile-hunter-jailed-another-group-unmasked-child-sex-predator-12864925/

They also hide in plain sight sadly.

@KingdomScrolls literally my whole career has been delivering care to serious and dangerous offenders, including sex offenders, so anyone who knows me knows not to go down that route!

@Dullardmullard I had not seen that specific case, but it is unsurprising and far from rare.

[quote eandz13]@AlternativePerspective 😳
Why the fuck would you assume those who'd hit a paedophile would automatically hit their wives?
My DP is a kind, wonderful man who treats me and everyone else with such respect, couldn't be further from a thug, would help anyone who asked for it.... except a paedophile. He'd give them a good hiding instead. You are massively weird linking those things together.

The only thing I don't particularly agree with are the actual vigilante teams who record everything and set people up for social media, the only reason being it could affect an ongoing case and offer the pedos some immunity in court etc. [/quote]
Bit why would your gentle husband automatically be the type of man to give a paedophile a "good hiding"

There's one thing saying and thinking things,bit to actually act on that?

Of you aren't normally aggressive or violent, it would take AN extreme event to actually move to physical violence. And as much as we all would like to think we'd kick the living daylights out of a paedophile... I don't think the majority of people actually would. Because the step to deliberate physical harm from a generally gentle person is massive.

The most insidious paedophiles won’t even have been convicted. If you’re changing your behaviour to your next door neighbour because you know they have a conviction then your previous behaviour towards your neighbour before you knew was unsafe and foolish. It should be there’s nothing to change because you were already doing everything reasonable to protect your children.

Most people to protect their children, but you can bet your last penny if I found out my neighbour was a convicted paedophile my attitude towards them and behaviour would change. I am friendly to anyone who loves or moves into my street, until the day I find out one of them is a paedophile, then I won't be being friendly anymore.

@Iminaglasscaseofemotion you will not know if someone is a paedophile (unless they tell you this, which is very unlikely). You can only know if they are a child sex offender. And again, this you would only know if they were convicted (again, unless they told you, which is very unlikely).

Saying it again: they are not the same thing. Paedophiles may or may not be child sex offenders. Child sex offenders may or may not be paedophiles. They also may or may not be convicted for their offences.

They are three different classes of thing.
Paedophile: a mental condition
Child sex offending: a behaviour
Convicted child sex offender: a legal status

This reminds me of the case of a doctor who was attacked by some moron who thought that a paediatrician was the same thing as a paedophile.

I’m so surprised at the responses! Its almost like there is an utter acceptance here that sexual assaults on children happen, and that it is not ‘our responsibility’ to keep our children safe. We’ll just leave it to the police then shall we...? I am so shocked at this attitude.

Yes, absolutely I would want to know but I would also want concrete proof (i.e. convicted, with evidence of the conviction in papers etc so not someone’s speculation).

I don’t get why everyone here is so fearful of vigilantes, I find the attacks on people abhorrent, but they are far far less common than child abusers.

If I'd seen concrete evidence and was certain it wasn't a case of mistaken identity I would tell my neighbours yes.

When I was a child there was one living in our cul de sac but people didn't know what he was. Neighbours didn't know of the risk he posed and the result was he assaulted one of the small children after coaxing them into his house when they were outside playing.

I couldn't care less what happens to child sex abusers personally. They deserve everything they should get (but rarely do)

@00100001 an extreme event..... like somebody abusing a child? Yeah, I'd imagine it would push plenty of otherwise gentle people to actual violence.

Is a pedophile somone who is attracted to feet?

I would think very carefully before you do anything as you could start a whole shitstorm.

SirGawain this, some people are unbelievably stupid.

I know where some live due to my job, and I also take them out into the community from time to time.

I keep this info to myself of course.

Make two lists, one of the good telling could do and one of the bad. Be scrupulous. Then you can weigh things up better; I'm sure people here would be happy to help if you need it.

Its better for the police to know where they are and not be driven underground

Its almost like there is an utter acceptance here that sexual assaults on children happen, and that it is not ‘our responsibility’ to keep our children safe

It completely is “our responsibility” to keep our children safe.

By teaching them about safety, stranger danger, grooming, what is private, how to say no, etc.

By “outing” paedophiles you put their family and any children they may have at risk, but that’s ok is it?