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To think dark brown eyes aren’t common in white British people

329 replies

Runaway3444 · 16/05/2021 09:49

Ds1 has dark brown eyes and due to his skin tone people just assume he’s white British rather than having a Middle Eastern father. My other children have a darker skin tone so people believe them. Aibu to think most people with dark brown eyes are usually from minority ethics background.

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pictish · 16/05/2021 10:23

No, I’m wrong. Just checked. Blue eyes have taken over as being more dominant in the UK than brown, which used to be more dominant.

HairyFloppins · 16/05/2021 10:24

Brown eyes in all my family, mine are almost black. No international connections what so ever.

I even went right back on ancestry and nothing, all from South East.

GrumpyHoonMain · 16/05/2021 10:25

It wasn’t long ago that anyone with blue or green eyes in most countries were treated very horribly and assumed to have problems. That didn’t happen in countries where those eyes are the norm.

moynomore · 16/05/2021 10:25

I'm white and blonde with very dark brown eyes. DM is Scottish and DD is German.

Xenia · 16/05/2021 10:26

It depends if you mean a special kind of very dark brown. We are white going back to the 1700s on all sides (as far as I can go back) and 3 of my children are blonde, one if blonde with brown eyes and 2 brown hair - one with hazel and one with brown eyes. We are majority Scottish/Irish so presumably celtic.

Genetically I think brown is stronger than blue so one parent with brown and one with blue is more likely to have brown eyed children

Mamamamasaurus · 16/05/2021 10:27

DB has dark brown eyes, like his mother. I have light blue though.

My DC2 has DARK brown eyes and people assume my DC are both of white heritage (they're mixed)

Pinkylemons · 16/05/2021 10:27

I’m blonde with blue eyes. DH has brown hair and dark brown eyes as do all 3 of our children. We are both white british. Apart from me my mum and my sister my whole family have dark hair and brown eyes.

GrumpyHoonMain · 16/05/2021 10:27

@pictish

No, I’m wrong. Just checked. Blue eyes have taken over as being more dominant in the UK than brown, which used to be more dominant.
That’s probably because people of colour who look like they have ‘black’ eyes actually have dark grey eyes (it’s one of the rarest colours in white people) and their kids often end up with blue eyes. Plus highest birth rates are in populations where blue eyes are common (due to cousin marriage or other reasons).
BatshitCrazyWoman · 16/05/2021 10:28

My adult DC are white British. One has blue eyes and the other dark brown. My late mother had very dark brown hair and bright blue eyes.

RemyMorgan · 16/05/2021 10:28

No, I don't think it's rare, not in our family anyway. We're white british.

My DH has brown hair and brown eyes, as does his DM. Our DD is pale skinned, blonde and has dark brown eyes.

icedgem85 · 16/05/2021 10:28

Most white people have dark brown eyes.

Oblomov21 · 16/05/2021 10:29

Really Pictish!?
How can that be though? If only 8-10% of the worlds population has blue eyes?

Aprilx · 16/05/2021 10:29

@Runaway3444

Ds1 has dark brown eyes and due to his skin tone people just assume he’s white British rather than having a Middle Eastern father. My other children have a darker skin tone so people believe them. Aibu to think most people with dark brown eyes are usually from minority ethics background.
YABU reasonable yes. I know plenty of people that have dark brown eyes but are of British heritage. Two that spring to mind are my husband and my younger sister.
3CCC · 16/05/2021 10:30

Yabu

Because brown eyes is a dominant gene

ChristmasAlone · 16/05/2021 10:30

@Cotswoldmama

I don't think eye colour can really give much indication of heritage. On my mum's side of the family everyone has light blue eyes apart from me and my cousin who have green eyes. They also have dark hair. On my dad's side everyone has hazel/ brown eyes. My husbands eyes are so dark they looked black and as a child his hair was white blonde! At work an Indian maintenance man was convinced I was Indian because of my eyes! I thought it was strange because surely green eyes would quite rare in India? I do look foreign though apparently there's Hungarian gypsy heritage on my dad's side?! Basically I don't think I would assume anyone's heritage from their appearance .
Hungarian people Magyars share no ethnicity with Hungarian "Gypsies", who are ethnically Roma. Same with all the Roma people in Central/Eastern Europe. The Roma people are originally from India, although it would not have been India when they travelled here, but what is in Northern India now. Roma people very rarely mix outside of their communities, which is why its very easy to tell them apart from over people - think Chinese etc. Alot of them will not even speak Hungarian and will only Romani, which is similar to Punjabi - although Roma from different countries will have their own dialects purely from being separated for so long but a Roma from Hungary will get the general gist of what a Roma from Ukraine is saying.
Goodtohear · 16/05/2021 10:30

Yabu.
I have dark brown eyes as does my sibling and 2 of my 3 dc. Along with two of my 3 dn. We are all white British.

Miseryl · 16/05/2021 10:30

My eyes are almost black, I'm mainly white British but my grandfather was Greek Cypriot. I have dark brown hair and tan every very easily but also go quite pale without the sun.

DP is blonde hair and blue eyed and pale skinned, our DD is blonde haired and brown eyed, with dark brown eyebrows/eyelashes which I think is a very attractive combination (she is my haha!). She is pale but shows signs of tanning well when exposed to the sun (she is still young so we slather her in sun cream).

iklboo · 16/05/2021 10:31

Most white people have dark brown eyes.

Honestly almost all the white people I know have blue or green eyes/hazel eyes. A couple with lighter brown eyes than dark brown.

Hyppogriff · 16/05/2021 10:31

Yabu

Oblomov21 · 16/05/2021 10:31

48%

While blue eyes used to be the least common colour and were seen as a rarity, 48% of the British population now have blue eyes. This is followed by green eyes at 30%, with a mere 22% of the British population having brown eyes.9 Jul 2019.

Well I never. Pictish is right.

Isn't this odd though?

3CCC · 16/05/2021 10:31

@NoBetterthanSheShouldBe

YABU, the Cornish (most of my family) all have dark brown eyes and often dark hair. Children’s fathers family also all very dark and no known overseas links.

YABU to judge us on our eye colour.

Agree to this!
ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 16/05/2021 10:31

When the DC were young I had one blonde blue eyed and one brown hair brown eyed. DS2 eyes and hair have got darker so he now has light brown hair and green / hazel eyes. They are mixed North African and Celtic heritage (Welsh/Irish/Cornish).

Dark hair and dark eyes are not uncommon in parts of Wales and Ireland. It’s possibly linked to the early Celtic settlers from the Iberian peninsula. There is growing evidence of some shared genetic patterns with the Basques.

Oblomov21 · 16/05/2021 10:32

48% uk

8% worldwide.

That is a bit odd, don't you think? Hmm

CounsellorTroi · 16/05/2021 10:32

Nish Kumar is on the cover of the Observer today. His eyes are not dark brown, more like hazel.

OhWhyNot · 16/05/2021 10:33

Sometimes

It’s not just darkness of eyes or skin tone it’s features

I have olive skin (I go quite fair in the winter) dark brown eyes and hair as does one of my friends. Many assume I am Turkish or Iranian (by people from these countries) she doesn’t

She looks English I don’t have a English look. We both mixed white/south Asian