To think the royal family should end at the queen

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I have respect for the Queen’s sense of duty but I do genuinely believe that it’s time for a conversation about the royal family. Honestly, who cares about the coming King Charles- is that really right? People mostly respect the queen but not the rest of them.

I read this article and I was one of those who thought their interview showed up some horrible stuff- there are clearly issues with the royals

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/may/13/prince-harry-royal-family-like-being-in-the-truman-show

Apart from all of the drama, I don’t think that we should be funding a royal family with tax payers money when the country is in such a state & the queen is literally one of the richest women in the world. I know royals in other countries are funded differently. The fact that the tories are mooting the idea of spending millions of public money on a ne boat to remember Prince Philip is a classic example.

Aibu?

@AlmostSummer21

I think a lot of people don't realise how much they do actually do that other people would have to do if the RF didn't do it!

It would cost us a lot more to have a different head of state/president etc

PLUS the RF bring in HUGE amounts of tourist £££££. Another head of state would not. The country 'purse' would suffer, but so would many many businesses who rely on tourism.

Some people really don't understand how it works & only see the 'privilege'. It's incredibly short sighted.

@AlmostSummer21 I would be far more interested in visiting U.K. if I could actually go into Buckingham palace rather than just looking at it from the outside which is actually a total let down and takes 5 minutes.

The work could easily be done by an elected president. A president would be much less expensive than the royal family - not needing multiple residences for example.

YANBU. The idea that the head of state is bestowed by right of birth is absurd.

Harry, like anyone else, is entitled to his opinion. And, as happens in families, he becomes less important as each generation arrives, eg PrincessAlexandra, when born was No4 in line to the throne, she's now No 55. And unless you are of a certain age will be asking 'who is Princess Alexandra', and undoubtedly in 30 years the next generation will be saying 'Harry who?

Whether we formally disband the monarchy, nothing will really change. Americans still hang onto the Kennedys as pseudo royalty, people will hang onto the Windsors in the same way. Ex monarchy/Royals will move money offshore/be able to earn and trade upon their names much as the stateless Euro Royals do. Assets will be free to be sold.

Of course, it's not just the UK, but 2 billion in the commonwealth who look to the Monarchy. As ever, Brits, very introspective without considering the impact on anyone else.

but 2 billion in the commonwealth who look to the Monarchy

Look to them for?
Also what about those who don't want them anymore? Yet they're still forced (politely, of course. It's ever the British way, as you know) to have someone/a family ruling over them.

The people of Britain don’t really ‘fund’ the monarchy. She also isn’t close to being one of the richest women in the world!

Under Sovereign Grant Act the money made from all of the Crown Estate goes to the government and the Queen receives 25% of that sum as the Sovereign Grant. The property of the Crown Estate is legally owned by whoever has the Crown.

I want to keep the monarchy. A Presidential head of state will if anything cost more (see France or the US as examples).

No it will cost less if it’s a non executive Presidency like Ireland.

Scale it back to the minimum. Should have been done sooner so Harry understood he wasn’t that important and Andrew (I like Anne though).
Only the core members should be important.

PLUS the RF bring in HUGE amounts of tourist £££££. Another head of state would not. The country 'purse' would suffer, but so would many many businesses who rely on tourism.

Yes it’s not as if anyone wants to go to Versailles is it.

I agree in theory, but they do bring in billions for our economy (probably been mentioned upthread)

Agree. The royals are an utter waste of space and money. Animal abusing scum, the the lot of them.

@21Flora

The people of Britain don’t really ‘fund’ the monarchy. She also isn’t close to being one of the richest women in the world!

Under Sovereign Grant Act the money made from all of the Crown Estate goes to the government and the Queen receives 25% of that sum as the Sovereign Grant. The property of the Crown Estate is legally owned by whoever has the Crown.

Don't be silly. The queen is around 350 on the forbes rich list, she has an incredible amount of wealth in land and material assets.

Pretty sure out of a population of 7billion 350 is pretty near the top.

Of course, it's not just the UK, but 2 billion in the commonwealth who look to the Monarchy. As ever, Brits, very introspective without considering the impact on anyone else.

I thought it was tacitly understood and accepted by HM that Commonwealth leaders will no longer wish to be lead by the monarch once the Queen dies?

@UrAWizHarry the richest woman is worth something like £30 billion, the Queen is relatively small change.

Time to end. The book And What Do You Do? lists abuses of royal power , their obscene wealth and lifestyles, and details the true cost.
I don’t want Charles and his mistress/ now wife representing me thank you.

@UrAWizHarry also as I said, 75% of the income from all of those assets and land are given to the government for the people of this country.

No I don’t want a republic. I’m happy to support the Royal Family and wouldn’t want an elected head of state.

[quote 21Flora]@UrAWizHarry also as I said, 75% of the income from all of those assets and land are given to the government for the people of this country.[/quote]
£350 is her personal wealth.

The monarchy as an institution is worth ~90 billion.

She is undeniably one the richest, most privileged women in the world. Get some perspective.

Position 350, that should say with assets/ value of around £400 million.

@UrAWizHarry I have quite a lot of perspective on the matter as I manage the estates of billionaires for a job.

The Profits from the ‘institution’ are given to the country. If we were to do away monarchy tax payers would about £300 million a year worse off as they’d lose the money from the Crown Estates. Don’t let facts get in the way of your narrative though.

The fact that the queen has ~£400 million of PERSONAL wealth makes it a fact that she is one of the richest women in the world.

Let's be charitable and say she is the 500th richest woman in the world - she's not, she's higher.

Out of 7.7 billion people that puts her in the top 0.0000065% wealthiest people, and 0.0000130% of women.

But sure, she can barely afford a Twix on that.

Let the RF quietly disappear into oblivion.

Forget the US model. I really like the President of Ireland, Michael D. Higgins. He’s a gentle man and a good Statesman. His two predecessors were women and they influenced Irish politics in a good way, not like the brash self serving style of some Presidencies...

100%. It is ridiculous that we still have them. They contribute nothing but leech off us for their entire lives.

I’d gave my kneecaps broken before I’d curtesy to a Queen Camilla like she was somehow my better.

I’d gave my kneecaps broken before I’d curtesy to a Queen Camilla like she was somehow my better.

@UrAWizHarry that’s not what I said though is it? There are thousands and thousands of billionaires in the world, of which the Queen isn’t one.

You have entirely ignored my point that the taxpayers of this country would be worse off without the Queen by something like £300 million a year. No tax payer of this country gives money to the Queen, it’s a myth. The Queen gives money to the taxpayer.

@Killahangilion

Let the RF quietly disappear into oblivion.

Forget the US model. I really like the President of Ireland, Michael D. Higgins. He’s a gentle man and a good Statesman. His two predecessors were women and they influenced Irish politics in a good way, not like the brash self serving style of some Presidencies...

Yes he’s lovely. I do enjoy seeing him coming out to greet the Irish rugby team when they’re playing at home. An Irish friend met him walking along the beach and they had a nice chat.