Is Gay kissing, On Emmerdale, before 7.30pm o.k. ?

[Oblomov]

It's just that Dh & I thought it was a bit 'full on', at that time, and were thankfull that ds was already in bed. Ds is 3.9 and normally goes to bed at around 7pm. But sometimes it is nearer 7.30 and he has seen glimpses of Emmerdale before.
The other night he was already in bed. And I know that gay scenes have been on other soaps in the past. Its just that I thought it was very explicit and I thought it was a bit too much for prime-time pre 7.30pm tv.
Or is that I should just make sure that any child is not exposed to tv at this time.
Did anyone else think it was a bit too much, or was it just me?

My son is 8 and called me at work this morning to inform me that there was a "man who had transformed into a woman" on the telly - he sounded quite in awe! I'm expecting some interesting questions when I get home...

I don't think a 3-4year old would really register what was going on re the kiss. I would be more worried about the violent content of these programmes.

I don't really think you can compare explaining issues about love and reproduction to a small child with explaining horrific newstories about a girl like you being "snatched from her bed by a man."

Love and reproduction are POSITIVE and LOVELY whereas child abduction is something you naturally want to shield a child from, surely?

Dobn;lt keep ANYTHING from your kids.

I ahd to find out about sex all by myself. My mother never ever explined it to me. I believed so many wronmd things as a treeen it wasn;t true.

I found out about periods, because I had my first one, and it was never expleined to me. I was fucking terrified

Dlease don;lt do that to your kids. If theyu ask you something, don;t fob them off. Be honest.

As MP said, I;d much rather discuss lovce and relationships and sex with my children, than chiuld abduction, or violence.

Morningpaper if you read my post properly you would see that dd said that about heterosexual kissing. She's at that boys are yuck stage! Maybe at 5 your child hasn't reached it yet!

I have recently briefly explained reproduction to her as I have had a baby. With the Simpsons episode, it set her mind going as to how would these characters have children, which I answered, she then asked me a whole ream of questions regarding relationships, not making any distinction between orientation obviously. She's 6 it's not necessary for her to know every detail of every subject. But you know children, they are like a dog with a bone if they think you are fobbing them off.

What I was trying to put over was that I don't expect to have to give a full and in depth discussion on relationships of any kind because of a Simpsons episode.

IME small children find it much easier to accept that two people of the same sex can be in love than many adults.

im with IntergalacticWalrus, dont keep anything from your kids,i to had to find out everything for myself and its weird and scary and embarrasing!
i done things differently with my 2 ds's we have always discussed things open and frankly at whatever age,infact ds1 and ds2 were 2 and 4 when i was pg with baby number 3,(which i lost due to miscarriage) and we explained the whole "how a baby is made" process with them,(with great help from a shiela kitzinger book!).
we have spoken about anything and everything as it comes up and still do now they are 17 and 15,nothing has been embarrasing for them,even though i have bought them up on my own for 11years! boys and mums!
i believe that us being so open gave my ds2 the courage to "come out" at 14.

good for you smee

"What I was trying to put over was that I don't expect to have to give a full and in depth discussion on relationships of any kind because of a Simpsons episode."

The Simpson's is not really a children's programme TBH, so I'm not sure what you mean by that sentence.

Seriously though, I can't imagine ANY questions coming from a child that I would feel are inappropriate. And if I did, I'd come on here and have 30 people give me some useful answers ....

I'm with batters and many others here - gay/hetero kissing, no problem. Soaps for my dcs - not on your life.
Ds is eight and there are children in his class who watch Eastenders
Or, Eastbenders , as the Sun so sensitively called it when the Barry/Colin groundbreaking relationship was part of the storyline all those years ago
Also agree that if children learn from family/friends/parental explanation that some people are in same-sex relationships, it's not an issue to them in the slightest
PMSL laughing at your ds1 Fio

Bloody hell, I HATE really thread titles like this. I think, don't click, don't click. But I hate to click and my faith in the vast majority of lovely mnetters is restored. So I don't have to worry too much about my ds (1 on Saturday) having two mummies.
Please don't talk about 'homosexuality' with your children...we are not in the '50's, eh?

Smee, I am going for a d&c tomorrow. It never occured to me to tell ds 3.9 anything. I just told him that I wasn't very well and had a sore tummy. Maybe I haven't given this enough thought.

I have to click I meant to say!

oblomov, have you mc?

Yes , with hindsight, my title was very badly phrased. Apologies.

oh oblomov (((((((((big hugs))))))))) for you.

Yes smee Apparently, a month ago. No bleeding as yet though.

I really didn't mean to bring it into the thread, so sorry about that.

no bleeding?? how did they know you mc??

sorry to hear that.

No, I'm sorry.
I'm really sorry everyone.

Unreasonable in my opinion, I don't see what is wrong with children seeing people kissing - if it is very sort of erm suggestive then maybe but only as much as anyone having sex or similar would seem nappropriate for kids to see...nothing special about it being two blokes or two women. My sister and her 'wife' as we call her are one of the happiest couples I have ever known, so I would far rather my children saw gay people kissing than heterosexual people arguing, for instance. if we stop our kids seeing gay relationships as normal, they will struggle with them later in life and have to sort out their own prejudices then rather than getting used to it early on.
It's not even unusual to be gay, just unusual to see people explicitly showing affection to their gay partner, mainly a self-perpetuating stigma I think. The more it is done, the less 'unusual' it will become.
So I do object to the implication in the OP that it 'isn't very normal'.

I agree the Simpsons isn't really a children's programme but it is a programme of many levels,any adult themes usually go over a child's head. I'm not expressing myself very well here. I didn't mean that her questions were inappropriate, I meant more age appropriate. She's 6 why should I be pointing out differences to her.

She had never questioned the fact that my two girl friends are a couple, now she wants to know why M can't give C a baby and vice versa and feels sad for them. Do I then have to go into adoption, why some people can't keep their children, ivf, surrogacy etc. All I was trying to do was watch a bit of telly on a Sunday afternoon !

Oh god that was the worst cross posting I've ever managed, I'm so sorry Oblomov. I'm sure you meant no harm xx

Oh, Oblomov, please don't be sorry. You posted a question about something that maybe threw you a bit (and god knows, much as we'd all always like not to have some of these thoughts sometimes, we do), you listened to responses, addressed your own issue - that strikes me as a good thing, and nothing to apologise for. I am so sorry you've had a miscarriage. Hope tomorrow goes as well as it can.

Sorry I crossed posts too

I absolutely agree that we need to be sensible and sensitive about what we allow our children to absorb - the Madeleine McCann info, soaps per se etc etc - But Oblomov, there doesn't NEED to be a conversation about gay kissing any more than there needs to be a conversation about het kissing - unless a child specifically asks...and then it still isn't an issue any more than straight kissing. People who love each other (I would personally leave out 'fancy') kiss. But I would be turning the TV off for any over-sexual kissing of any combination, and not differentiating between kissing of low intensity for any age group.

We need to be able to be utterley utterley matter of fact about including same-sex relationships alongside straight relationships - not save them for a 'special talk'.