Angela Rayner sacked [shock]

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So Keir Starmer chooses the one shining light in the labour party. A single mother at sixteen, the most inspiring story to come out of the Labour party. Anyone that has listened to Angela about her struggles to obtain a degree and to better herself. Starmer chooses her as the whipping girl for his failures and has sacked her as co-ordinator. He can't remove her as deputy, but how much longer is that position tenable?
I am genuinely shocked and horrified. The failures of the labour party on are on HIM. He should be resigning.

Absolutely livid. What has the Labour party come to.

I agree with @TedImgoingmad and I appreciate it’s easier to argue for change than it is to argue for maintaining the status quo but Labour have allowed themselves to lose so much trust, especially in Scotland, it’s very difficult to see how they could ever come back.

I think it’s partly to do with this game of Fun Politician we see now, people don’t just want policy reform, they want charisma too.

@PinkSparklyPussyCat

You make an interesting observation there about the female and BAME Tories being expected to get there on merit and being of a better calibre. Some of the most effective Tories are women or BAME - the two female PMs, Nadhim Zahawi heading up vaccination program, Liz Truss quietly doing the trade deals, Rishi Sunak at the treasury, Sajid Javid before him, Kwasi Kwarteng, Kemi Badenoch….the list goes on.

Kwasi Kwarteng is my MP and I don't think he actually knows where his constituency is. Unfortunately my cat could wear a blue rosette and win an election here and he'd probably do a better job!

No one's mentioned the incredibly inspirational and effective Priti Patel, I see.

By the age of 38, most people aspiring to senior leadership roles aren't still talking about what they achieved aged 16-22.

I would hardly call getting pregnant at 16 inspirational. Sorry. That's what's wrong with the Labour party these days. They don't understand how people think.

Labour are an absolute mess of wishy washy wokeness. If the working class community I live in (ex mining) is anything to go by, they don’t want to vote for a party that would screw them over with more/stricter Covid restrictions either, in the event of another wave. Trad Labour supporters have suffered the most arguably under Covid - younger workers, those in the gig economy/insecurely employed, the excluded, people who live in poorer housing, etc. And Starmer has done nothing but weakly support the government, barely challenge them, and even suggest people should be restricted more. They’re a shit show. Rayner’s campaign was probably part of it but I’d wager people in Hartlepool, like those where I live, are looking at the party overall and cottoning on that they won’t do sweet f a for them.

She did a shit job and got sacked, being a woman or mother at 16 shouldn't give her a free pass .

Dreadful at her job watched as much as I could when she was on tele . The OTT critsium and lack of solution when asked what she would do didn't impress anyone.

Not sure why everyone is blame Rayner, she is not the leader of the party. Starmer and his useless shadow cabinet are to blame.

Jess Philips is gobby and continuous talks about stabbing everyone from the front to the back.

Sunak has a political charm of a fish out of water. He will never be PM as England has issues with people of colour. The Tories have no true policy except ‘get Brexit done’ - god knows what that’s means? Their handling of the pandemic is appalling and you have a drunk PM who wants covid bodies piled up high and a useless media that doesn’t investigate political ongoings.

Starmer is fault for this great election lose. It’s got nothing to do with Tory scum... that article was some time ago now. He is just using her as a scape goat for his pathetic policies and political fails.

I think she comes across as a thug.

KS was landed with Rayner and like Long-Bailey, she handed him the chance to sack her on a golden platter.

Raynor is a poor politician and I’m pleased she’s been given the boot.

just as I thought the news couldn't get any better, AR is ditched. Fantastic

Well I think Keir’s made the right decision.

And I hope he gets some more well known figures into the Cabinet sharpish.

@Guavafish She is deputy leader, a senior member of the shadow cabinet AND the the parties "national campaign co-ordinator" - a campaign which has bombed and achieved nothing.

Standing for women's Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshall is currently ranting on YouTube about people like Angela.

KS is the leader without direction. He was unappealing, too london centric, remained and part of the woke culture!

She would struggle to earn a fraction of what she's earning in the private sector.. The party needs to get rid of people like her if they ever want to get elected again.

This is an absolutely bone-headed reaction by Starmer. No matter what the reason, and it may be perfectly justifiable, it looks wimpy, pathetic and petty. All about the optics Keir. No wonder they can't win a bloody election. I am not a Tory which is why I'm so bloody cross.

I like her, always have. She’s like a slightly bonkers Aunty, I absolutely love her boots and love the fact she’s a genuine person. Not elitist like the vast majority of the Tory cabinet, just a regular person.

Keir just seems to ditch everyone he doesn’t agree with.

@Iamthewombat

It gives me no pleasure to see Labour's demise, but I can't see them coming back anytime soon. It is a broken party

They are in a similar position to the one they occupied in 1983, under Michael Foot. Or the position the Tories were in, in 1997. The Labour Party will be back, but it will take them a while. Poor old Kier Starmer has one hell of a job on. He’s the Neil Kinnock of the 2020s.

I don't think the current situation is comparable to 1983. Whilst the manufacturing heartlands were dying, they were not yet completely dead. The Red Wall and the loyalty to Labour was in tact in the north. Labour still dominated Scottish politics, even out of power. Now, the trust in northern constituencies has evaporated. I don't see the SNP's grip on Scotland loosening any time soon. It's not clear to me that Labour have enough appeal or talent to pull off the victory Blair had to grab the southern constituencies And there is nobody like the wonderful John Smith to lay the groundwork.

It gives me zero pleasure being pessimistic about Labour's future. I didn't leave Labour behind, Labour left me behind. It's about more than finding a charismatic leader and getting some decent policies together. It's about rebuilding trust in their core constituencies, and I really do not trust them in their current incarnation.

Best thing they could do is get Andy Burnham back as an MP & get him elected as party leader, he has spoken very well today about what is wrong with the Labour party & how it could be sorted.

Because she's a disgrace and has no right to be representing women, when she can't say what one is.

It gives me zero pleasure being pessimistic about Labour's future. I didn't leave Labour behind, Labour left me behind. It's about more than finding a charismatic leader and getting some decent policies together. It's about rebuilding trust in their core constituencies, and I really do not trust them in their current incarnation

Boom. Absolutely this.

no appeal to hardworking and aspirational BAME groups who are being told they occupy a position of perpetual victimhood and woe betide they speak up against that notion;
Absolutely, this. I am foreign, and while I obviously prefer to be treated as a person and not as a representative of my ethnicity, if I have only two choices, I personally prefer the right-wing attitude of being wary that I am competing for someone's job over the left-wing "ah, what a pooooor dahhhling from a poor country, now now, let's do something nice for you". At least the former world view accepts me as an equal, in a way.

The fall guy should be the person who chose completely the wrong candidate for Hartlepool. And I suspect that wasn't Angela Rayner.

KS needs to go! Terrible lose!