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Ex not paying a weeks child maintenance taking kids on holiday for the week?

89 replies

Shooshybobs · 07/05/2021 16:11

Is this reasonable? He's taken them Mon-Fri on holiday, should he have a week off paying maintenance for this? Thanks

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Herbie0987 · 07/05/2021 16:13

He should still be paying maintenance.

moynomore · 07/05/2021 16:13

No, he needs to pay.

MySocalledLoaf · 07/05/2021 16:14

Does he pay extra maintenance when you take them away? I’m guessing not.

Shooshybobs · 07/05/2021 16:14

He will argue that he's had them all week paying for food etc? What argument do I have to come back with?

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Shooshybobs · 07/05/2021 16:15

He pays a fri morning so I know he's not paying it this week

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PatriciaHolm · 07/05/2021 16:18

The amount he pays should be based on a yearly number of overnights, so assuming holidays are accounted for in that calculation, he should be paying the same each week regardless.

ClarkeGriffin · 07/05/2021 16:18

I'd think not to be honest. If you had 50/50 access, you don't get maintenance then do you? Because you both equally share the costs. So if he has them all week, he pays for the costs all week. Although I imagine he may try and get money off you which is when it would get cheeky.

Reign21 · 07/05/2021 16:19

Your child related costs don't stop just because they are away for a few days. Most bills are paid monthly and you still need money to cover them. Do you have a proper arrangement in place for payments or does he just pay based on a private agreement between you both? The amount he pays is set. Anything he chooses to do on top is extra and his choice. I hope he sorts it out

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 07/05/2021 16:21

Because it’s an annualised amount. It covers the bills you need to pay for them on an annual basis, evened out across the year, not what you’ll be spending that week on food etc.

Some men live in cloud cuckoo land.

hibbledibble · 07/05/2021 16:21

Surely he pays an amount based on how many overnight visits he has?

Icancelledthecheque · 07/05/2021 16:21

@Shooshybobs

He will argue that he's had them all week paying for food etc? What argument do I have to come back with?
That the law doesn’t entitle him to a payment holiday!
ClarkeGriffin · 07/05/2021 16:23

@PatriciaHolm

The amount he pays should be based on a yearly number of overnights, so assuming holidays are accounted for in that calculation, he should be paying the same each week regardless.
Oh if that's the way they do it, then forget what I said. He should still be paying.

Guessing if this is his attitude, he is under paying too?

Shooshybobs · 07/05/2021 16:32

He pays the minimum required for having them 2 nights per week.

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Shooshybobs · 07/05/2021 16:35

Also this is an agreed arrangement between us not straight out his wage

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WouldbeVa · 07/05/2021 16:36

Of course, they still need a roof over their head and bills paid, a weeks holiday away doesn’t stop all the extra expenses

CuriousaboutSamphire · 07/05/2021 16:36

Chase it. I assume he pays you directly.

Tell him he is wrong, it's an annualized payment and you'll hand it over to CMS if he doesn't stop playing silly buggers.

LittleOwl153 · 07/05/2021 16:36

Get yourself on to the cms. Men who think like this never pay what they should and use it as a stick to beat you with!
Of course he should pay as usual. I expect you supplied the clothes they have taken, the shoes they are wearing. I expect you are still paying rent for their bedrooms or has you landlord let you off this week as they are sleeping elsewhere. Ridiculous!

FTEngineerM · 07/05/2021 16:45

It depends on what you use the money for I suppose?

If you use it to put a roof over their head and all the costs encompassed in that because he can’t do 50:50 then yes you should still get money.

If you use it to feed/clothe and treats for them or what ever then maybe not.

Merryoldgoat · 07/05/2021 16:46

I absolutely detest some men.

Shooshybobs · 07/05/2021 16:47

@FTEngineerM

It depends on what you use the money for I suppose?

If you use it to put a roof over their head and all the costs encompassed in that because he can’t do 50:50 then yes you should still get money.

If you use it to feed/clothe and treats for them or what ever then maybe not.

I dont think this is accurate because he has previously tried to dictate what I was to use money on and after seeking advice it's not for him to say what the money is used for.
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Jellybabiesforbreakfast · 07/05/2021 16:49

Child-related costs are more than just food and entertainment.

Tell him you'll put in a formal claim if he doesn't pay up.

Do you get a week off paying your mortgage if you go away for a holiday?

CuriousaboutSamphire · 07/05/2021 16:50

@FTEngineerM

It depends on what you use the money for I suppose?

If you use it to put a roof over their head and all the costs encompassed in that because he can’t do 50:50 then yes you should still get money.

If you use it to feed/clothe and treats for them or what ever then maybe not.

No. It does not.

He has no say in how the money is used.

He is paying towards the upbringing if his kids. The money goes from him to the residential parent. That's it!

NailsNeedDoing · 07/05/2021 16:50

He should still be paying maintenance because the home they live in still has to exist when they get back, and so your most costly bills will stay the same. The council aren’t going to give you a tax discount on your three bedroom (or whatever) house just because your children don’t need their bedrooms for five nights.

Ask him if he’s planning on paying for every item of clothing your children will wear on those days, and if not, where does he think the money is coming from to dress them.

Starlightstarbright1 · 07/05/2021 16:55

@FTEngineerM

It depends on what you use the money for I suppose?

If you use it to put a roof over their head and all the costs encompassed in that because he can’t do 50:50 then yes you should still get money.

If you use it to feed/clothe and treats for them or what ever then maybe not.

It absolutely does not.

The minimum payment is the minimum a parent pays to rp.. this goes towards clothes, hearing, water, rent, lesuire none of it defined.

Maintenance is bssed on number of nights. You might find with holidays he falls into a different payment category..

However as he has caused problems previously. I would go through the cms. It stops the conversation needing to be had.

FTEngineerM · 07/05/2021 17:02

He has no say in how the money is used.

I didn’t say he did, this is her asking, not him 😬 but I mean if you wanna put words in my mouth go ahead..