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To ask if you personally judge people who dress alternatively?

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getyourfreakon · 05/05/2021 22:58

As per the thread title.
Yes, Coronation Street has highlighted the issue. I'm what would be referred to as a "goth". I'm also a mother of one.
What are your feelings on the subject?

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OverByYer · 06/05/2021 06:55

Not at all. I love seeing middle aged punks. Look rather cute now rather than scary

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fantasmasgoria1 · 06/05/2021 06:55

On Facebook there is more than one elder goths only and there are so many goths up until their 70s! They still look amazing. And to the poster who said older goths probably have not had the confidence to let the image go you are totally wrong. It's just who we are.

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sausagebap · 06/05/2021 06:55

i'd assume they were a bit 'i'm mad, me'

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SeaTurtles92 · 06/05/2021 06:55

No because I'm 'alternative' myself.

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Ragwort · 06/05/2021 06:59

I probably do in that the few people I know who dress 'alternatively' do it in a very 'look at meeeee - I'm so special' way. They are so concerned about their appearance, whether it be goth, grunge or high end fashion that it becomes an obsession and they don't seem to have anything else in their lives apart from their appearance.

There is someone I meet nearly every day on the way to work who dresses in a very 'stand out' way ... yet she cannot bring herself to say 'good morning' although I have seen her 4/5 days every single week for the past five years - maybe she is just very shy and wants to hide behind her clothes but personally I am much happier meeting someone who wears jeans and a jumper and can return a friendly greeting.

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HarebrightCedarmoon · 06/05/2021 06:59

I'm not keen on lots of piercings and tattoos, and particularly hate big discs in earlobes, but I just don't have them myself. Other people can do what they like.

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overnightangel · 06/05/2021 07:00

Couldn’t care less what people wear.
Used to make me laugh when I was younger the way the goths/‘emos’ used to think they were oh so individual as they mooched around all looking the same.
Not-so-great memories of being spat at by a bunch of goths for being dressed smartly and being “conformist scum” on my way to work because I actually had a job and didn’t just sit around the local shopping centre all day

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Justri · 06/05/2021 07:01

Never

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Bigbluebuttons · 06/05/2021 07:04

Yes, I judge, almost always in a positive way. People who make a statement through their clothing have thought about it. And people who have thought about it, generally think about other things too, I find. They’re rarely bland. And I like that.

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Bourbonic · 06/05/2021 07:05

Yes and no. I judge whether someone is my sort of person to get on with based on appearance when it's all I have to go off.

But I don't particularly care if someone wants to be alternative or whatever.

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Arbadacarba · 06/05/2021 07:07

I used to wear gothic clothes sometimes when I was younger. If I thought I could still carry them off I'd wear them now! Admiration/envy from me, not judgement!

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terraclutter · 06/05/2021 07:11

I saw this being discussed on This Morning yesterday. It's heartbreaking that this story is based on a girl who was brutally beaten to death for being different.

I would never judge. I agree with PP that it's nice to see girls being different and expressing their individuality. It's sad that a lot of girls probably conform to the norm out of fear of being targeted for being different.

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DrWankincense · 06/05/2021 07:14

Everyone judges and makes assumptions about others to a certain extent as pp have very eloquently said.

You can be a knob in a suit or head to toe black with purple lipstick. It's just clothes.
I try to take people for who they are not what they look like.

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Hughbert · 06/05/2021 07:17

I have dressed alternatively forever - I would not call myself 'goth' anymore, as I have had to dilute my look to fit a work dress code.
It is not about attention seeking, or lacking individuality or insecurity. It was a culture, a fashion of it's own, an opportunity to express myself honestly in a sea of legwarmers and rara skirts and Heather Shimmer lipstick. That look didnt feel like me, but the music and clothes and energy of a different group did - how is me choosing that any different to someone else wanting the neon belts? Why is mainstream acceptable and the minute I choose "goth" I'm attention seeking?

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Northernsoullover · 06/05/2021 07:19

To be honest I don't think of the style you describe as alternative. Alternative to what? There isn't one homogeneous mass of people wearing bodycon nor Boden then 'alternative'. goths are rarer than Boden wearers for sure but its still a recognisable style. You aren't as special or unique as you think!
I went on a hen weekend once and the others in the group tried to preen me into what they felt were more glamorous clothes. I'm a converse and sweatshirt type of person whereas they thought I should be in ballet flats blouses and belts. Therefore I think some people will judge you regardless of whether you are goth, glamorous or 50's rockabilly. Its all alternative if you don't follow a certain style you most identify with.

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roguetomato · 06/05/2021 07:24

I think they are actually quite beautiful. I would love to dress like that if I was younger.

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Somuddled · 06/05/2021 07:25

Some really horrible judgements on here about people who aren't 'alternative'. Hmm

OP I would most likely assume that an adult dressed alternatively is trying to say something with the way they dress. I generally find it hard to understand humans who try to tell you something about their personalities with clothing (whatever clothing that is) so I would be cautious. But I would treat them like I do any other human, a baseline of respect that can either increase or decrease based on their behaviour once I interact with them.

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btwwhichonespink · 06/05/2021 07:27

I don't judge at all as I have been a mosher, hippy and even now I like to go my own way fashionwise.

I will say that I am drawn to aesthetics (as are most humans) and I think some looks just aren't beautiful or pleasing to the eye so I am not entirely judge-free on this matter. This applies as much to teenagers missing the target on their contouring as it does to older ladies and men in heavy goth garb.

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WishingHopingThinkingPraying · 06/05/2021 07:28

I judge them as being interesting.

Absolutely nothing negative.

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TheCrowening · 06/05/2021 07:29

@Wearywithteens

I wouldn’t judge them - I try and befriend them as all the adult ‘goths’ I’ve met have difficult backstories and have big insecurities. They need tlc.

That is an incredibly judgemental comment 🙄
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Mrgrinch · 06/05/2021 07:33

I do. It's embarrassing for the children.

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newnortherner111 · 06/05/2021 07:33

I don't judge people such as goths but I will judge people who I don't think have made any effort with their appearance before leaving the house to be tidy and clean.

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Toomanymuslins · 06/05/2021 07:38

What’s corrie going to do next? A reenactment of Soham, or the Manchester arena bombings? I find it really uncomfortable when they do this.

I don’t judge young people. Older people ... not sure. There is an age where it can start to look a bit daft.

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Mumoblue · 06/05/2021 07:38

@Mrgrinch
Is it? I was never embarrassed by the way my parents dress. We had a good old laugh about the time a woman asked my mum in a car park if she “worshipped the devil”. Grin

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fluffythedragonslayer · 06/05/2021 07:39

I used to go to "goth night" with a boyfriend at uni, I was very much not a goth and I used to find it hilarious that all these non conformists looked the same, danced the same etc. The boyfriend would get really annoyed with me when I'd talk about satan's choreography (all the headbanging goths in sync). And I wasn't accepted by his people because I would wear sparkly trainers and a blur t shirt and my hair was pink. Not a scrap of black on me, I was like a colourful little flower fairy. Our relationship was destined to fail.

Now I'm super old and still love a sparkly trainer and still have pink hair. Much fatter and less fairy like though. No idea about the boyfriend and whether he is still a goth.

So in my experience I have been judged for not being alternative enough. Which is quite the irony, I'd say. I do think alt people can come across as thinking they are better because they express themselves and don't conform to the mainstream.

I'm not sure i'd be brave enough to go to a goth club in bright colours these days 😂

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