AIBU to think either men or their exes are lying about orgasms?!

[samosamo]

So, just listened to today's womans hour - bear with me! All about how only 20% of woman orgasms through vaginally sex alone. I knew this, but the conversation reminded me of conversations I've before when the man has said to me 'but all the women I've slept with before you have (because I so truly refuse to pretend, I think pretending will get neither of us anywhere if a mutual outcome is what were after!).

So, AIBU to think it's either the men, or the women they have been with, who are fibbing??!! Which do you think? (Unless of course, it's true and these men are just mr lover lover guys!!!)

@bunglebee

I think it's a perfect storm of both. Lots of women fake (especially if the man is hopeless/ won't take feedback), lots of men are completely ignorant about how women climax.

I genuinely don't understand why some women would continue sleeping with such inconsiderate and selfish men. Why let a man just use your body in such a way for his pleasure, as if you're a sex doll

I've always faked an orgasm with men, have only ever orgasmed with women.