To think its ludicrous a GP surgery can prevent vaccination by...

[dameofdilemma]

Deregistering a patient?
Dp has been deregistered (without notice or consent) for the offence of being too healthy - he hasn’t made an appointment in years so they just deregistered him as a patient.

He now can’t book for the vaccine (via NHS, walk-in clinic or GP) until he’s registered again, which could apparently take weeks as there’s a backlog (of fuming deregistered patients).

The reality is many won’t bother continually phoning the surgery (and being put on hold) every day and the vaccine roll out will be slowed. down.

yes they do but you need to book yourself in, you won’t be sent reminders for men below the age of 50. Everyone should be having an annual check , weight , bloods , blood pressure etc it’s irresponsible not too.

No one should be taking up valuable gp appointments to have a check every year. It's unnecessary and not at all irresponsible. At what age do you intend on these appointments commencing?

I can believe this is an issue why many groups just haven’t had it.
I do think it’s bloody awful that you can be deregistered without being told-
I hope that’s not standard!

Everyone should be having an annual check , weight , bloods , blood pressure etc it’s irresponsible not too.

You don't get that this isn't a service offered by the NHS do you? A GP wouldn't book you in 'just in case / just for a check up' annually or otherwise. And a lot of people can't afford private healthcare insurance. It's not irresponsible', it's not there.

i'm under impression that people are having to check website multiple times/many days to get a vacc appointment. 18 miles away is the standard travel distance we get offered here. And then the person turns up, might struggle to park, & might get a half hour Q to get jab.

So no I don't think having to ring a surgery 10 times to get re-registered is really that onerous compared to all the other repeat-step efforts & travel & parking charges etc. required to get a jab itself.

There was a deliberate decision by NHS England to deregister patients who had not had contact with their GP for 5 years:

app.croneri.co.uk/whats-new/patients-be-deregistered-if-they-have-not-seen-gp-five-years

Seemed pretty stupid at the time, it would clearly delay urgent healthcare if a previously healthy person developed a new problem. Purely a cost cutting exercise by the government. Complain to your MP, not your GP!
Ditto if the local government have approved massive house building in your area and haven't bothered to fund new GPs or schools - happening in my city.

@iklboo

Everyone should be having an annual check , weight , bloods , blood pressure etc it’s irresponsible not too.

You don't get that this isn't a service offered by the NHS do you? A GP wouldn't book you in 'just in case / just for a check up' annually or otherwise. And a lot of people can't afford private healthcare insurance. It's not irresponsible', it's not there.

I know my GP certainly doesn’t offer this. I am 52 and have always had a fight to get my smear test - there is no way I’d be able to get a “check up”.

[quote MyDcAreMarvel]**@Frazzled2207* ¥Eh? No gp I know or does such thing. I’d better check my dh is still registered as he has not been for years.* yes they do but you need to book yourself in, you won’t be sent reminders for men below the age of 50.
Everyone should be having an annual check , weight , bloods , blood pressure etc it’s irresponsible not too.[/quote]
So where do you suggest we have these check ups @MyDcAreMarvel as they aren't offered by the NHS?

I was offered an over 40s and over 45s health check, both of which I ignored as there's no way on earth I'm having unnecessary blood tests and I was told I couldn't have the check up if I didn't agree to them.

The same has happened for my exdh - I registered him when we moved here 5 years ago, he called me a few days ago having a go at me for deregistering him meaning he couldn’t book his vaccine. I definitely haven’t de registered him, have the letter confirming when he registered and there was definitely no contact informing of him being deregistered (I keep everything and exdh always answers his phone).

Also lol’ing at the idea of calling up to make an appointment for an annual weight and blood pressure check. I had to wait a week when I was vomiting blood before anyone would condescend to see me.

Again we're getting references to a national rule imposed by NHS England, but again posts show that this is being applied differently by different practices. Are practices encouraged to delist patients, or told they must? After what amount of time? Doing so without contacting the patient just seems entirely wrong.

@MyDcAreMarvel

Well that was stupid he should have gone in for an annual check up.

Umm I've never been for an annual check up and I haven't heard of anyone else doing so either! They are not a compulsory requirement to stay registered at a GP..

I was invited to an annual check up by my GP once I turned 50. I didn't go because I had no health issues and only take HRT. After 3 years of not going I was told that my prescription would not be renewed until I had been. You are checked up around your birthday. I had my blood pressure done and had a quick chat. I live in Kent. Maybe it's an area thing?

It's not just NHS England. It's all of the NHS. Other NHS companies have different rules around the time limit as well. I know where I am people aren't getting letters due to covid risk so there's no notification at all right now, registering is impossible as surgeries aren't doing anything but emergency work.

All appointments where I am are triaged by receptionist and have been for years. There's no way someone would have got an appointment just for a check up. I can't even get seen for my diabetic checkup and worsening blood sugars. Been told to wait until it's below 4 or over 25mmol. As I've no benefits now I can't even afford a machine to check (they aren't supplied anymore here).

They send you check up invitations at 40&45. At least where I lived. Exh didn't arrange either, and hadn't been sick so they wrote to us to check he still lived there, he did and they didn't deregister. People move overseas or within the U.K. and don't change their dr

@MyDcAreMarvel where do you live that your GP will do an annual check up?

Does this affect his track and trace?

I'm surprised so many people don't have an annual check up on the NHS. I've been called since 35 and dh since 40, every year without fail and if we forget to make an appointment a suggestion for time and date plus reminder is sent.
It was due to these checks that both our illnesses were picked up.
As you don't go unless theres something wrong, you could go for a long time without knowing what was wrong with you. Completely unaware.
Please look at what your practice offers and get your check ups.

Astonishing. Hope it gets sorted quickly OP

Ps I've lived in 4 countries, the only one with annual check ups were for women only and cost $75 (men were every 5 years until 50 under our health insurance) guess where, land of the not so free ...

Dev for some reason I thought you'd be a bit more in favour of people making their own choices.

It obviously varies by area but I certainly don't want the NHS to get into annual check ups for people who feel fine.

OPs DH woud have been informed a couple of time prior to being deregistered. It doesn't take much contact to update a patient's records and keep them on

"Should" rather than "would". One of the DC was deregistered with no warning after being too healthy apparently. It definitely wasn't a lack of literacy rendering him unable to read the letters.

Annual checkups are standard in many countries and also a standard "perk" of large company employment. I don't think people realise just how bare bones a service the NHS provides these days for anything short of "death imminent".

Whoops just read about Kent, definitely not an area thing, I'm in Lancashire/ Greater Manc.

Our surgery aren't sending any letters out. Due to covid risk.
People get rung/emailed only.

@Becca19962014

Our surgery aren't sending any letters out. Due to covid risk. People get rung/emailed only.

Genuine question but what covid risk? I thought the notion about letters carrying covid had been disproven?

I don't understand why he can't just book on the national booking site with his NHS number? I did and it didn't ask me how my GP was at any point. Are you saying s GP deregistering you has some kind of control over your NHS number?

"OPs DH woud have been informed a couple of time prior to being deregistered. "

But posters are claiming that didn't happen.